So was i
But then again i have a celebratory beer while waiting for the morning news to come on
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Certified Legendary Thread Hawthorn 2017 1st Round Pick Watch
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But then again i have a celebratory beer while waiting for the morning news to come on
Amen brother
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Thanks ... thread just seemed a bit headless without that information. Should have gone to the Trade thread first I guess.
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Thanks for giving that context. Now I understand the strategy!
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Still a lot to play out of course. But assuming hawks lose Lewis, I'm not sure how hawks can hope to have a better year than this one.
Mitchell and Jaeger strengthen their midfield going forward, but for 2017 alone without Mitchell and Lewis? Considering Jaeger is an unknown, it breaks even at absolute best for Hawthorn.
They were still reliant on their older blokes too in 2016. Guys like sicily popped up here and there but for the most part it was the usual guys dragging them across.
Hodge, Birchall, Burgoyne, Gibson, Puopolo, Rioli et al won't have be improving, as good as they are.
They still have a desperate need for key positions. No real key forward and relying on the smarts of Gunston, Breust and the other two for their goals.
Their rucks? None of them really grabbed the position and made it their own. And all season they were developing a few key backs but none really looked as competent as a few other young blokes in the comp. There's a reason they went after Carlisle.
So whilst I think Hawks have done well going into 2018 and the like, right now i cannot possibly see how this trade works out poorly for St Kilda.
Very very shrewd work from our guys
Edit: should add the teams around them are likely to improve as well. Swans dogs have young lists. Cats will be there or thereabouts again. Crows might be adding Gibbs. The juggernaut of GWS. I'm happier with this trade the more i think about it
Mitchell and Jaeger strengthen their midfield going forward, but for 2017 alone without Mitchell and Lewis? Considering Jaeger is an unknown, it breaks even at absolute best for Hawthorn.
They were still reliant on their older blokes too in 2016. Guys like sicily popped up here and there but for the most part it was the usual guys dragging them across.
Hodge, Birchall, Burgoyne, Gibson, Puopolo, Rioli et al won't have be improving, as good as they are.
They still have a desperate need for key positions. No real key forward and relying on the smarts of Gunston, Breust and the other two for their goals.
Their rucks? None of them really grabbed the position and made it their own. And all season they were developing a few key backs but none really looked as competent as a few other young blokes in the comp. There's a reason they went after Carlisle.
So whilst I think Hawks have done well going into 2018 and the like, right now i cannot possibly see how this trade works out poorly for St Kilda.
Very very shrewd work from our guys
Edit: should add the teams around them are likely to improve as well. Swans dogs have young lists. Cats will be there or thereabouts again. Crows might be adding Gibbs. The juggernaut of GWS. I'm happier with this trade the more i think about it
Are they confident in Roughead being fit?
That would alleviate some of the losses, and would put them roughly on par with this season.
That would alleviate some of the losses, and would put them roughly on par with this season.
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We have so much currency now, so happy we got this deal with the Hawks and not another club.
2 first rounders next year and boatload of cash. Something is brewing.
2 first rounders next year and boatload of cash. Something is brewing.
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Statement from Melbourne in the last hour:
"We received an approach from Jordan Lewis’s management earlier this week regarding the possibility of him joining Melbourne. This was after discussions Jordan had with Hawthorn," the statement read.
"We understand that Jordan is contracted to Hawthorn, but we remain interested in looking at this option."
Melbourne wouldn't be continuing discussions with Jordan if he was comfortable with where things at Hawthorn were at.
Lewis on top of S. Mitchell, Hill and Hurting guts their midfield. I'd be shocked if O'Meara plays round 1, supposedly needs another knee scope. Fair to say they were lucky to make finals with the close wins masking a lot of their issues.
If we do trade one of our firsts, I hope it's ours.
"We received an approach from Jordan Lewis’s management earlier this week regarding the possibility of him joining Melbourne. This was after discussions Jordan had with Hawthorn," the statement read.
"We understand that Jordan is contracted to Hawthorn, but we remain interested in looking at this option."
Melbourne wouldn't be continuing discussions with Jordan if he was comfortable with where things at Hawthorn were at.
Lewis on top of S. Mitchell, Hill and Hurting guts their midfield. I'd be shocked if O'Meara plays round 1, supposedly needs another knee scope. Fair to say they were lucky to make finals with the close wins masking a lot of their issues.
If we do trade one of our firsts, I hope it's ours.
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I'll settle for a Collingwood after their deals with gws last year.
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Without Mitchell and Lewis, certainly the cloak of invincibility won't be there...
Lewis out the door would be ideal.
Although now that Hawthorn are very much looking to keep him its almost impossible he moves.
Stevo said on the news that Lewis was going to request a trade to Melbourne..
I would too.
Hawks only offering one year deal which will be his last.
Melbourne two years on the table, more money, with potential for extension.
Training Mad
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I can't believe how good this trade is, works for us and the Hawks
But it looks like were 2 love up now, mcevoy trade and now this one
But it looks like were 2 love up now, mcevoy trade and now this one
18, 23 and 36 for 10 and 68 would still be a good deal IMO.
If there are 4 or 5 Free Agency Compos, and we end up with another 22 or 23, then maybe, and that's just bad luck.
Still, how likely is it? Under 10 is unbelievable. 10 is 23 and 36 for 68. In that range between is slightly less each time.
CursingFijian
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Especially clever if you consider that the Saints may have forced the Hawks first out by bidding on Titch in the first place. Well played by the Bains trust.
It's unlikely it moves much.
This year there hasn't been a compo pick in the first round.
suspect we may wrap a player trade with swap of picks to do a bit better than thatWould we do 23 and 36 for GWS pick 15?
Either way we have another 2 x top 15 picks next year (at absolute worst).
They would not want 1 or 2 of Hodge, Burgoyne, or other experienced campaigners to be injured for a decent chunk, otherwise they will be a completely different proposition. All they have to do is lose the close ones rather than win the close ones, and that takes about 5 wins off their 2016 season. Bye bye Hawks.
Only question remaining, do we really believe our own 1st rounder will be a lower pick than the Hawks 1st rounder.
18, 23, 36 for 10? We still win
And that's without even looking at the draft and taking into account the fact we were in no mans land with pick 10
