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Which would make the odds off, my exact point.Dogs vs giants? Nah on their day i actually think the giants are a better team than the dogs-but venue does make it a 50-50.
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Which would make the odds off, my exact point.Dogs vs giants? Nah on their day i actually think the giants are a better team than the dogs-but venue does make it a 50-50.
Which would make the odds off, my exact point.
Yes GWS are playing as well as anyone right now.Thats fair..i thought you meant the dogs were more certain..i think kingsley will really challenge them.
Alright, everyone hold your laughter at imagining us thrashing any team after last night's performance.
But....
If Freo beat Port by about 20 points and Bulldogs beat GWS by any margin...it looks like about a 100 point win against WCE would be enough to climb into 2nd. I realise we play first so the players won't know what they need, but they would vaguely assume a 100+ point win is what it takes to keep them "in it".
Essentially we need Freo to be fired up and efficient next week, after we absolutely pulverise the Eagles. Then we need the Bulldogs to win to lock in a finals spot.
Unlikely that this all lines up, but West Coast at their absolute worst can be pretty damn bad and the other sides have finals on the line while playing at home (sort of for the Bulldogs).
True.Agree but 2 issues there.
1. We tend not to be great at building %.
And 2. The freo game will be a dead rubber by the time it starts unless st kilda beat carlton (so i hope st kilda do). Then if freo need to win to get on they might beat port.
Whats probably more likely is port win, the giants lose narrowly (less than 18 pts) and we beat wce by 60ish to pass the giants into 3rd.
Especially after this loss, expectations are very low from basically everyone at this point.I'd settle for anywhere in the top 4. Week off + double chance and just go for broke.
Speaking purely as a supporter, but having lowish expectations at the start of the year + mainly the premiership in 2022 means I'll be able to watch on far more comfortably without the nagging thought they we're 'wasting' a strong list. Compare that to the main contenders:Especially after this loss, expectations are very low from basically everyone at this point.
It does give a bit of a "free hit" element to it, even though of course any time you are finalists you have ambition to go deep.
But at times Geelong have played better when the opposition has been more hyped (Essendon, Hawthorn, Collingwood and Fremantle I feel a lot of people such as neutrals expected us to lose). Obviously it wasn't the case during our massive losing streak before we started playing those teams. But really I'd say our good runs of form had neutrals expecting us to beat Bulldogs and St Kilda, yet we massively stuffed those games up. Almost the same against Adelaide.
I'm sure it's all irrelevant and clutching at straws, but perhaps this group does do better when expectations are dialled down.
Yes..that is the major driver on the ladder predictor (along with Port and Freo)…BTW, Dogs still a decent chance to miss the 8.
GWS won there last yearYes..that is the major driver on the ladder predictor (along with Port and Freo)…
I don’t think GWS has beaten Dogs in Ballarat? Although my memory serves me correctly it has always been rain and wind - if we get a “sydney day” it might even things up. Imagine after all this hype if they miss?
Written or published? Big difference...Rohan Connolly is tipping us for the flag - and yes, the article was written post-Saints game:
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Best of the bunch? Why the 'experienced' Cats loom large in flag race
With one week remaining, there's no clear AFL premiership favourite. And while every contender has pros and cons with September around the corner, there's one club that just looms large with significant finals experience, writes Rohan Connolly.www.espn.com.au
Written or published? Big difference...
The Cats have slipped to fifth in flag betting at $9, behind Sydney ($4), Port Adelaide ($5), GWS ($6) and Brisbane ($8) after Saturday night's dramatic fade-out against St Kilda, when they uncharacteristically surrendered a 33-point half-time lead, conceding 12 of the next 15 goals to the Saints.
Might be fair enough, too, even allowing for the fact Geelong plays West Coast at home on Saturday, and the Eagles, after Sunday's insipid performance at home against Carlton, are clearly impatient for holidays to start.
But I will still argue that the Cats are a safer flag bet than any of those four teams above them in the market, let alone those at longer odds. For a number of reasons, but mostly in comparison to their flag rivals.
If you said we'd make the top 4 at the start of the year with none of Cameron, Stewart or Dangerfield likely to make the final All-Australian team and Guthrie to miss the entire season again + Hawkins struggling and eventually getting injured no one would believe you. One more game still to go before we lock in top 4 but it's been a pretty huge collective effort from the entire squad + coaches to have us where we are.One thing I think worth noting .. well 2 things actually.
one - we knackered ourselves like no other and dropped the game with so much on the line it was deplorable really.
No excuses there
With that said, there were very, very few that during preseason were willing to suggest to make Top 4 at seasons end.
Many had us off the cliff into the ravine and not making 9-12, let alone the 8 and certainly not Top 4.
Now Top 4 is not fully locked but its more than likely.
And we have been doing it without Tomma for about 6 weeks which we all know is not the Tomma of years past but he would still draw the best defender from the opposition regardless of his output.
Danger has also missed 8 week or so.
All points that can be countered - but all im saying is that once again the Geelong Football CLub have put themselves into a position at seasons end to contend. How far we can take that contending remains to be seen but on a macro level it s a remarkable achievement.
Now for them to take these next 5 weeks like their lives depend on it and get it done. We have shown our best is good enough and our worst is abysmal. If we can play 5 over the next 7 weeks and get 5 wins.....
Dare to dream.... but **** its gonna take an almighy effort and is highly unlikely to occur... but thats part of the fun right!
Also... we in the middle of a rebuild in a handicapped league with all the stipulations against us AND we are still annoying the shit out of every other fan base and the AFL by being where we are - and dont forget the media who luv to circle and pick at our weaknesses. They are all pissed we are still here. Melbourne, Eagles, Tiggers and Doggies have all won flags and dropped back to the bottom. North and Freo aint even won one and still cant. Essendon havent won a final since Jesus played for Nazareth and GCS after getting enough Rd 1 handouts from the AFL to sink the Bismark still cant make the Finals let alone win one
We are doing ok in totality ... but **** me Id luv then to get this right and snag another one.
GO CAtters
As much as the cynic in me anticipates that Sydney will revert to their very best football in this hypothetical QF against Geelong:The most likely scenario is a QF v Swans in Sydney
Good post. I agree. Logic is clear that there are better teams over the season (although as I posted yesterday our draw was one of the hardest so I am happy to take 4th as a reasonable cue to where we sit over the season. Noting that 3 below us are in better recent form). So we are up against it. But in my view so is every other team in the 8.One thing I think worth noting .. well 2 things actually.
one - we knackered ourselves like no other and dropped the game with so much on the line it was deplorable really.
No excuses there
With that said, there were very, very few that during preseason were willing to suggest to make Top 4 at seasons end.
Many had us off the cliff into the ravine and not making 9-12, let alone the 8 and certainly not Top 4.
Now Top 4 is not fully locked but its more than likely.
And we have been doing it without Tomma for about 6 weeks which we all know is not the Tomma of years past but he would still draw the best defender from the opposition regardless of his output.
Danger has also missed 8 week or so.
All points that can be countered - but all im saying is that once again the Geelong Football CLub have put themselves into a position at seasons end to contend. How far we can take that contending remains to be seen but on a macro level it s a remarkable achievement.
Now for them to take these next 5 weeks like their lives depend on it and get it done. We have shown our best is good enough and our worst is abysmal. If we can play 5 over the next 7 weeks and get 5 wins.....
Dare to dream.... but **** its gonna take an almighy effort and is highly unlikely to occur... but thats part of the fun right!
Also... we in the middle of a rebuild in a handicapped league with all the stipulations against us AND we are still annoying the shit out of every other fan base and the AFL by being where we are - and dont forget the media who luv to circle and pick at our weaknesses. They are all pissed we are still here. Melbourne, Eagles, Tiggers and Doggies have all won flags and dropped back to the bottom. North and Freo aint even won one and still cant. Essendon havent won a final since Jesus played for Nazareth and GCS after getting enough Rd 1 handouts from the AFL to sink the Bismark still cant make the Finals let alone win one
We are doing ok in totality ... but **** me Id luv then to get this right and snag another one.
GO CAtters
What results are needed weekend to finish 3rd?We are far more likely to finish 3rd and play Port in my opinion. I think I'd prefer Sydney as they will be doubting themselves heading into a QF. Also finishing 4th means if we lose we avoid playing most likely the Dogs or Hawks at the MCG.