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Yep..

I still get shitloads of enjoyment watching my beloved crows..

Just that the last 5 years this club has been one massive balls up after another.

We’ve taken a Grand Finalist team and completely fxxked it with stupid decision after stupid decision.

No one should be happy about that and no one should accept it and simply shut up about it just cause some people cant handle criticism levelled at the club..

How many bottom 5 finishes in a row is it gonna take?… how many years without a finals appearance?..

Some of us have higher standards and expectations.

Agree with you 100% the last 5 years has been a balls up. The delusionally “happy” people you refer to ( I am one) are also angry at how we have been managed - the camp, some of the list decisions and first round draft misses

The last two years I feel there has been a genuine turnaround. Draft selections all look, recruiting of Dawson at a good price and now Rankine are both excellent moves. Management of the club is completely different and more professional - not perfect but much much better. The on field stuff comes down to list profile and games played. Time is now the key fix for improved performance

So many of us have acknowledge the bad years but have now moved on recognising the positive changes. It doesn’t mean we aren’t pissed about what happened but how long can you harp on the past? Time to acknowledge the good work to change our fortunes and move on


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Front loading almost an entire year of salary into 2023 is exactly what we should be doing with such a young squad though.
Either that or pay out some contracts. Plenty of dead wood on our list.
 

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Yep..

I still get shitloads of enjoyment watching my beloved crows..

Just that the last 5 years this club has been one massive balls up after another.

We’ve taken a Grand Finalist team and completely fxxked it with stupid decision after stupid decision.


No one should be happy about that and no one should accept it and simply shut up about it just cause some people cant handle criticism levelled at the club..

How many bottom 5 finishes in a row is it gonna take?… how many years without a finals appearance?..

Some of us have higher standards and expectations.

We were ****ing that team with stupid decision after stupid decision long before the grand final happen. We made the big dance in spite of ourselves, not because of it. That 2018-2020 period was really a team ran like a shitshow for so long that it all imploded on itself.

Really, though, most of those balls up ended around the 2021 mark. The last year or so has been rather solid, albeit with a list that is a go-to example of how to safely tank in the AFL.
 
Milera is a bust.

A bust in the fact that he hasnt turned out to be worth the 1st round draft pick spent on him.

And that’s even before he copped two years off due to injury.
His numbers suggest he was possibly on the verge of a breakout in 2020, and we can see his “weapons” are definitely there. I don’t think it’s fair to judge him as a busy when 5th and 6th years are generally the ones you expect players to kick on, and he was injured for both.

As I said, wait and see how he goes in 2023 and then judge.
 
Jeez some people expect a lot.
FWIW, looking at AFL drafts from 10-15 years ago, over 50% of first round picks either dont make it or are nothing but average players.

Jones, McHenry, Milera are not busts. They are tracking as players who can contribute. Not every first round pick is a Martin, Hodge, Franklin

Our strike rate for 1st rounders is probably on par with the AFL average of first rounders who make it.
 
Judging by the standard of the finals and the sides in them this year, it makes you realise that we are so far away from the top 6 it is not funny.
We lost by less than a goal to 2 of this years' finalists (should've won both), and beat 2 of them. Our experience and physicality is so far less than other teams due to having such a young side, there is hope
But yes we aren't at the finals level yet
 
Norf have a War Chest and Clarko, Essendon have $3mill according to reports and nothing to spend it on.

This will not be PSD, the AFL won't cop that, GC is their club that they are trying to rescue!
There's no way Clarkson wants a player who doesn't want to there given they are currently already dealing with JUH, there's no way Essendon wants a player who doesn't want to be there given their currently poor publicity. They will want to be as quiet as a mouse over the trade period. So the AFL will just tell them to accept our future 1st rounder.....
 
Coirtesy of Jon Ralph..


Wreck It Ralph: The 2022 AFL Trade Period’s best-value potential moves ranked​

The big deals will get all the attention during AFL trade period. But clubs are working hard behind the scenes to secure this year’s Pat Lipinski. We rank the best potential bargains.

6. Izak Rankine (Gold Coast)​

He’s not on the top of this list because Gold Coast will ask the world for Rankine and eventually accept a first and second-rounder.

But for Adelaide, which has had decidedly mixed fortunes with recent high picks, it is worth the price.

He gives legitimate marketing power, he is 22, adds goal power, he takes attention off Josh Rachele as he enters his second year, and eases pressure on Matthew Nicks, who has a contract to 2024 but has only 18 wins in three rebuilding seasons.

Of his 241 possessions this year, 111 were score involvements including 29.21 and 25 direct score assists.

[PLAYERCARD]Izak Rankine[/PLAYERCARD] won’t come cheap, but it will be worth it for the Crows. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

Izak Rankine won’t come cheap, but it will be worth it for the Crows. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images


8. Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs)​

What price do you put on Ken Hinkley extending his coaching career?

The Port Adelaide list team can’t bring in Josh Dunkley just to suit Ken Hinkley’s contract situation, but there is no doubt Hinkley will need a finals finish next year to stay at the club past 2023.

Port Adelaide believe Dunkley is worth one first-rounder given he is no longer contracted, with the Dogs asking for two first-rounders when Essendon tried to pry him out mid-deal in 2020.

He’s a damn fine player – 14 tackles, 23 possessions and a goal in the losing elimination final as one more example.

And, at Port Adelaide, he would perfectly complement the emerging mids in Connor Rozee and Zac Butters, with Ollie Wines still going strong and Travis Boak a wonder, but 34 years of age.

The Power should think about it this way – if they get an end-of-first-round compo pick for the departing Karl Amon they should be open to handing over pick 8 for Dunkley and sweetening the deal given the impact he would have in 2023.

5. Junior Rioli (West Coast)​

Junior Rioli might still stay at West Coast on a three-year deal rather than accept Port Adelaide’s four-year deal on bigger money.

But if he does request a Port Adelaide trade, given the Eagles offer is far from massive a second-round pick would surely suffice.

The Power doesn’t need the pick and they have vast cap space.

And they need Rioli.

Sam Powell-Pepper (24 goals) had a career-best year and almost all of Connor Rozee’s came from the midfield (15 were from round 11 onwards) but Robbie Gray and Steven Motlop retired and Orazio Fantasia didn’t play a single minute of senior AFL football this year.

Port Adelaide would depend on Rioli to be injury-free, after hamstring issues this year, and settled off-field given the passing of his father and his desire to set up his family and support his mother.

But if Port Adelaide can get him right, he’s all upside and a chance to meet his potential after an admittedly much-hyped career for a player who has never averaged more than 1.3 goals a game.
 
Coirtesy of Jon Ralph..


Wreck It Ralph: The 2022 AFL Trade Period’s best-value potential moves ranked​

The big deals will get all the attention during AFL trade period. But clubs are working hard behind the scenes to secure this year’s Pat Lipinski. We rank the best potential bargains.

6. Izak Rankine (Gold Coast)​

He’s not on the top of this list because Gold Coast will ask the world for Rankine and eventually accept a first and second-rounder.

But for Adelaide, which has had decidedly mixed fortunes with recent high picks, it is worth the price.

He gives legitimate marketing power, he is 22, adds goal power, he takes attention off Josh Rachele as he enters his second year, and eases pressure on Matthew Nicks, who has a contract to 2024 but has only 18 wins in three rebuilding seasons.

Of his 241 possessions this year, 111 were score involvements including 29.21 and 25 direct score assists.

Izak Rankine won’t come cheap, but it will be worth it for the Crows. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

Izak Rankine won’t come cheap, but it will be worth it for the Crows. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images


8. Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs)​

What price do you put on Ken Hinkley extending his coaching career?

The Port Adelaide list team can’t bring in Josh Dunkley just to suit Ken Hinkley’s contract situation, but there is no doubt Hinkley will need a finals finish next year to stay at the club past 2023.

Port Adelaide believe Dunkley is worth one first-rounder given he is no longer contracted, with the Dogs asking for two first-rounders when Essendon tried to pry him out mid-deal in 2020.

He’s a damn fine player – 14 tackles, 23 possessions and a goal in the losing elimination final as one more example.

And, at Port Adelaide, he would perfectly complement the emerging mids in Connor Rozee and Zac Butters, with Ollie Wines still going strong and Travis Boak a wonder, but 34 years of age.

The Power should think about it this way – if they get an end-of-first-round compo pick for the departing Karl Amon they should be open to handing over pick 8 for Dunkley and sweetening the deal given the impact he would have in 2023.

5. Junior Rioli (West Coast)​

Junior Rioli might still stay at West Coast on a three-year deal rather than accept Port Adelaide’s four-year deal on bigger money.

But if he does request a Port Adelaide trade, given the Eagles offer is far from massive a second-round pick would surely suffice.

The Power doesn’t need the pick and they have vast cap space.

And they need Rioli.

Sam Powell-Pepper (24 goals) had a career-best year and almost all of Connor Rozee’s came from the midfield (15 were from round 11 onwards) but Robbie Gray and Steven Motlop retired and Orazio Fantasia didn’t play a single minute of senior AFL football this year.

Port Adelaide would depend on Rioli to be injury-free, after hamstring issues this year, and settled off-field given the passing of his father and his desire to set up his family and support his mother.

But if Port Adelaide can get him right, he’s all upside and a chance to meet his potential after an admittedly much-hyped career for a player who has never averaged more than 1.3 goals a game.
Openly biased. It makes you vomit.
 
Openly biased. It makes you vomit.
Vic media bias as usual

what about hopper toranto brun all good

moving home to Victoria make strong clubs stronger

vic media really don’t like us lol

future first best get

good luck

planting seed won’t make it happen

f.... u vic vfl bias media eat sh....t

that blunt enough
 
Openly biased. It makes you vomit.
Can't wait for the Cats Number 1 doting fanboi Whateley and Robbo's take on Bruhn and likely Henry too asking to be cleared to the Cats..
 

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Can't wait for the Cats Number 1 doting fanboi Whateley and Robbo's take on Bruhn and likely Henry too asking to be cleared to the Cats..
And how third and fourth round picks will be enough to get the deals done.
 
GWS and Freo asking too much.
Straight out of the playbook.

And they have the hide to whinge when they've been called out on it this year.
This Henry , the brother out of contract at the Pies strongly linked to the Cats..

 
A first and a second for an uncontracted player who has achieved two fifths of duck all in four years, and nominated his destination?

What planet are these clowns on? Do they have any idea how trading works?

We won’t be even giving a first. Not ours anyway. Maybe a late one if someone else trades it for our tradable spuds and later picks.
 
Jeez some people expect a lot.
FWIW, looking at AFL drafts from 10-15 years ago, over 50% of first round picks either dont make it or are nothing but average players.

Jones, McHenry, Milera are not busts. They are tracking as players who can contribute. Not every first round pick is a Martin, Hodge, Franklin

Our strike rate for 1st rounders is probably on par with the AFL average of first rounders who make it.
People arent saying they are outright busts though..

Just first round busts.. in that they were taken in the first round and havent lived up to the value of a forst round pick..
 
So GWS are likely to have a stack of picks if they lose 3 quality midfielders.

Could end up with 4 x 1sts
#3, #12, #18, #19

If they want another earlier pick, we could split pick #5 for #12 & #18/#19.

Going to be interesting to see whether we spend more picks this year or futures.
 
So GWS are likely to have a stack of picks if they lose 3 quality midfielders.

Could end up with 4 x 1sts
#3, #12, #18, #19

If they want another earlier pick, we could split pick #5 for #12 & #18/#19.

Going to be interesting to see whether we spend more picks this year or futures.
They might also be happy to trade pick 12 and maybe a 2nd with us for our 2023 pick
 
So GWS are likely to have a stack of picks if they lose 3 quality midfielders.

Could end up with 4 x 1sts
#3, #12, #18, #19

If they want another earlier pick, we could split pick #5 for #12 & #18/#19.

Going to be interesting to see whether we spend more picks this year or futures.
For pick 5 you’d want 12, 18 and 19..
 
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