Strategy Jason Horne-Francis: North trade him to Port for massive unders

[Brett Cummings]

Apart from the "pure" mid part.

Look, I know many on here like Rachele - he just wasn't my preference for our high pick last year.

I take it you believe he can become an elite midfielder?

I think most wanted callaghan when we knew horne was no longer an option but then we won a couple of late games and he was gone too.

 

[TryAnHit]

well, sure, a big bodied elite mid is a definite need but if there's not one available how about short ass pure mid with speed and elite disposal?

Hatley was the big bodied mid we all wanted at draft and traded him.... and look at him..

They are damn hard to find and require alot of luck

 

[CrowsGoal]

Hatley was the big bodied mid we all wanted at draft and traded him.... and look at him..

They are damn hard to find and require alot of luck

I don't disagree but it's still a need for us.

 

[CrowsGoal]

Lots of faith in Rachele here to be an elite midfielder. Hope you're all right.

 

[Moe Ron]

IMO, Rachele will become a Connor Rozee type mid.

As the new gen of Crows and Power players develop, it will be great to see some new showdown rivalries (hoepfully) grow... Rozee v Rachele should be fun. I'm backing in our boy Rachele to take it too them, he's super competitive AND skilled. I reckon his body may end up be stronger than Rozee (even though Rozee has roughly 5cm on him) he's got Greco-Roman genes

 

[CrowToon]

Hope this trade gets done tomorrow (yes I understand itll probably be Wednesday evening) so some people in this thread can finally let it go and begin the healing they clearly and so desperately need.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Hatley was the big bodied mid we all wanted at draft and traded him.... and look at him..

They are damn hard to find and require alot of luck

I never had interest in hately.

 

[Mutineer]

I never had interest in hately.

A lot on this board did at draft time...

 

[adelaidecrows]

Lots of hindsight critique on this thread at present. Hately was a good get at the time. Like a lot of players, he hasn't progressed into stars. If I was to guess, its because we have a lot of 2nd-3rd tier players and no where near enough 1st tier elite talent around them to bring them into the game. Geelong won their premiership on the back of Danger, Selwood and their other star players, their young players could be placed in our team and they wouldn't make us any better. We are going to continue to stall unless we progress to attracting more Dawson style established talent.

 

[Jetwa5h]

Personally think if Hately and Berry were swapped at the start of the year we may be talking about Berry the way we now talk about Hately. They are both see ball get ball in and under mids, just one the club thought they could turn into an outside player

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[DaKids]

Personally think if Hately and Berry were swapped at the start of the year we may be talking about Berry the way we now talk about Hately. They are both see ball get ball in and under mids, just one the club thought they could turn into an outside player

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Exactly correct and stats for Jackson will back that up.

Criminal what the Crows did to his development this past season just to give Crouch some games.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Yeah you mean like petracca , degoey,stringer ,danger fyfe,dusty good idea

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You couldn't have picked a worse group of players to argue in favour of our current course if you tried.

Which of these guys are small forward / midfielder hybrids?

They're all power athletes. Our guys have nothing in common.

 

[Southerntakeover]

If the club go that way certainly once he gets a couple of Burgess pre-seasons under his belt.

He was considered the best player in Australia at the 2019 AFL U16's National Carnival winning both the M.V.P (Kevin Sheahan Medal) for the most outstanding player and Vic Country's M.V.P......playing midfield. Then missed the whole year as a 17 year old (Covid) before playing a few games in his top age year for the Murray Bushrangers playing mostly forward again in a season impacted by Covid in Victoria.

And as everyone knows, the position you play when you're 16 is your best position in the pros. There is no physical difference between the AFL and childrens football.

 

[CrowFan77]

Just postulating here:

How about the Crows offer up our 2022 R2 and 2023 R1 for Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.0

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

? Not sure if Port would even consider it, but it would unlock the JHF trade and give then a 1st rounder next year.

Thoughts?

 

[Maddogmetro]

Just postulating here:

How about the Crows offer up our 2022 R2 and 2023 R1 for Connor Rozee? Not sure if Port would even consider it, but it would unlock the JHF trade and give then a 1st rounder next year.

Thoughts?

They'd never even consider for a second getting rid of Rozee, and definitely not to us.

In any event, he's a fully indoctrinated Port dickhead now. There's no undoing that.

 

[footy4ever]

Just postulating here:

How about the Crows offer up our 2022 R2 and 2023 R1 for Connor Rozee? Not sure if Port would even consider it, but it would unlock the JHF trade and give then a 1st rounder next year.

Thoughts?

I’ve seen him shit his pants too often. Great front runner though.

 

[crow2crow]

I’ve seen him s**t his pants too often. Great front runner though.

he would be awesome with berry for grunt but never gonna happen

 

[StonesThrow]

Personally think if Hately and Berry were swapped at the start of the year we may be talking about Berry the way we now talk about Hately. They are both see ball get ball in and under mids, just one the club thought they could turn into an outside player

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It's obvious that Berry is superior even watching them both in the Sanfl early in the year. Berry has more strength, power and athleticism. He's also had less development.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

It's obvious that Berry is superior even watching them both in the Sanfl early in the year. Berry has more strength, power and athleticism. He's also had less development.

yep, Berry has Hateley covered in pretty much every category except height.

I think people are so used to us having slow inside mids that they’re yet to realise Berry has a real burst of pace away from packs.

I know it’s confusing for everyone, but Berry is an inside mid that has some pretty good initial speed.

 

[Disco Fox]

To be fair, no one could have predicted Soligo being as good as he was

For what we need, though, I'd take the match-winner potential of Rachele any day over Ward, even though I reckon both are going to be damn good AFL players

When you say "no one" I presume you mean anyone on this board. Crows' recruiters were over the moon that he was still available at their pick, so they knew!!
I agree with you on Ward. Also, isn't he more of what we already have & I remember him being genuinely seen as a flight risk.

 

[Runnin Blue]

It's obvious that Berry is superior even watching them both in the Sanfl early in the year. Berry has more strength, power and athleticism. He's also had less development.

I’m pretty sure there was a game this year where Berry, in a quarter or two, absolutely tore it up. He was everywhere, ferociously chasing the ball. Looked unstoppable.

It was a good glimpse at what he can be.

 

[Maddogmetro]

I’m pretty sure there was a game this year where Berry, in a quarter or two, absolutely tore it up. He was everywhere, ferociously chasing the ball. Looked unstoppable.

It was a good glimpse at what he can be.

That was the game against Sydney

 

[Samcro24]

I’m pretty sure there was a game this year where Berry, in a quarter or two, absolutely tore it up. He was everywhere, ferociously chasing the ball. Looked unstoppable.

It was a good glimpse at what he can be.

The sydney game comes to mind, he also kicked a couple

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

That was the game against Sydney

The sydney game comes to mind, he also kicked a couple

There was a 10 minute period where he turned the game on its head. Kicked two goals and three or four clearances. Just went into beast mode where he was an absolutely dominant force. Think it was the third quarter.

[correction: it was the second quarter]

 

[Maddogmetro]

There was a 10 minute period where he turned the game on its head. Kicked two goals and three or four clearances. Just went into beast mode where he was an absolutely dominant force. Think it was the third quarter.

[correction: it was the second quarter]

He also got 2 Brownlow votes for that game, in a heavy loss