List Mgmt. List Management 2022

[Bletch]

We got 7 list spots already


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Not quite. Perhaps forgetting we added 2 mid-year?

So, where we are at now:

Senior List: 32
Rookie List: 5
Rookie B: 2 (including Owies, who cannot stay on Rookie B list)
32+5+Owies=38, max=42. So 4 places now free, along with one free spot on the Rookie B list.

Waiting new contracts:
Senior List: Marchbank, Setterfield, Honey, Cuningham, Fogarty, Ed Curnow (6)
Rookie List: S Durdin, Cottrell, LOB, Boyd (4)
Rookie B: Owies, Akuei (2)

Some discussion a few weeks back that new contracts were imminent for Cotts, LOB & Boyd, but haven't seen confirmation.

May hold off on further changes till trade period now.

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

Perhaps Voss was talking to Austin about the last couple of minutes of the R23 game and said something like we need to get that shocker out of our game, referring to how we played as a team, and Austin thought he said Stocker.

Are they saying Boo or Boo-urns?

 

[SurreyBlue]

Won't you laugh if the cats pick him up and turn him into tuohy v2.1

He'll be picked up and we will be regretting this one for a very, very, very long time. Richmond or Geelong is my guess, but he will be playing AFL next year.

 

[Pinnell]

We’d better be replacing him with someone like Hopper. Mongrel required to win flags

 

[Kramer1]

Stocker has enough pure talent to make it in the AFL, unfortunately never worked hard enough, didn't want to embrace a team ethos

I hope at some stage the penny drops and can still carve out a career

Based on???

In fairness I wouldn't embrace our team ethos either...it is shitful.

As keenly observed by my 12 year old, Stocker was first to fly the flag for his team mates.

 

[Jeremias]

We’d better be replacing him with someone like Hopper. Mongrel required to win flags

Hopper would be a really poor target given who we've already got through the midfield.

 

[Arr0w]

Based on???

In fairness I wouldn't embrace our team ethos either...it is shitful.

As keenly observed by my 12 year old, Stocker was first to fly the flag for his team mates.

Unfortunately just flying the flag isn't enough

Hanging his teammates out dry way too many times

 

[Juddafideslenko]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I just don't understand how our development can be the primary cause. Surely you draft psychologically resilient young guys who are self motivated and self driven for success? That's almost my number 1 criteria for drafting a player because if they don't have that, talent doesn't matter.

Do you seriously you think you can find 100% psychologically resilient, self motivated young 'boys' driven for success at 17/18 years of age...in the me me, I I facebook meltdowns, safe space, words will now break my bones era?

You have lofty hopes my friend.

I think clubs hope these kids turn out that way.
No professional psychologist could give you those guarantees

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[Kramer1]

Unfortunately just flying the flag isn't enough

Hanging his teammates out dry way too many times

Again...based on?

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

Stocker wanted a three-year deal, we wouldn't stump up.

He'll be at North next year, Clarko is a fan.

 

[Wickzki]

Unfortunately just flying the flag isn't enough

Hanging his teammates out dry way too many times

Compared to?

If we're delisting players for this alone then we'd still struggle to have much of a list.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

Stocker wanted a three-year deal, we wouldn't stump up.

He'll be at North next year, Clarko is a fan.

Fair enough from Carlton then if true
Play on!

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[BlueTongue]

I'm so p1$$ed right now.......we have spent 20 years looking for the next athletic Kouta and still have learned nothing about natural footballers.
I thought Bossy was better than that but here we are. This is a kick in the guts and to think who we just re-signed....FMD. I need a decent break over summer.....

^ 100% this.

Unfortunately rough on Stocker, but I can understand the rationale for his delisting, his body and unlucky run with injuries let him down.

List spots are at a premium These days, and we have to pragmatic, if not ruthless about these tough decisions.

Hope he does well at his new club

But Stocker FFS?

I had 6 players that would likely go - being;

Fogarty
Cuningham
Williamson (Still on the list?)
Newnes
Philp
Hayes

And another 4 that were unlikely, but really should be cut, with;

Carroll
Curnow
Plowman
Setterfield

I'm gobsmacked that Stocker gets cut, and other who have shown nothing but average performances continually get gifted games.

 

[Bletch]

Stocker wanted a three-year deal, we wouldn't stump up.

He'll be at North next year, Clarko is a fan.

If so, don't know why we wouldn't have held out till trade period. Even if it was a 4th round pick for him, better than nothing.

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

Stocker wanted a three-year deal, we wouldn't stump up.

He'll be at North next year, Clarko is a fan.

Source?

 

[KohPhi]

Again...based on?

Probably whatever the Coaching panel and list management team base their 'stay or let go' decisions on..
The fact is we can all speculate, but really, other than a a select couple, no-one here will ever know.

 

[Bletch]

^ 100% this.

But Stocker FFS?

I had 6 players that would likely go - being;

Fogarty
Cuningham
Williamson (Still on the list?)
Newnes
Philp
Hayes

And another 4 that were unlikely, but really should be cut, with;

Carroll
Curnow
Plowman
Setterfield

I'm gobsmacked that Stocker gets cut, and other who have shown nothing but average performances continually get gifted games.

Well, 3 of those are gone - Willo, Newnes & Hayes. Philp is contracted next year. Fog & Cunners we're waiting to see...

 

[Jeremias]

If so, don't know why we wouldn't have held out till trade period. Even if it was a 4th round pick for him, better than nothing.

Source?

Pretty certain SOAP was being sarcastic....

 

[rp84]

Stocker wanted a three-year deal, we wouldn't stump up.

He'll be at North next year, Clarko is a fan.

If that's true, that's pretty piss poor on his side.

Would be completely nuts to give him more than a 1 year contract.

 

[rp84]

Pretty certain SOAP was being sarcastic....

Bizarre sarcasm...

 

[Benaly28]

^ 100% this.

But Stocker FFS?

I had 6 players that would likely go - being;

Fogarty
Cuningham
Williamson (Still on the list?)
Newnes
Philp
Hayes

And another 4 that were unlikely, but really should be cut, with;

Carroll
Curnow
Plowman
Setterfield

I'm gobsmacked that Stocker gets cut, and other who have shown nothing but average performances continually get gifted games.

Carroll?

Give him a chance only been there 5 mins.


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[Juddafideslenko]

Source?

Where's the source to the alleged fact (if you believe whats being said here) that the club wronged him and threw this untapped superstar on the scrapheap?

Fair's fair?!

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[Elmer_Hauser]

^ 100% this.

But Stocker FFS?

I had 6 players that would likely go - being;

Fogarty
Cuningham
Williamson (Still on the list?)
Newnes
Philp
Hayes

And another 4 that were unlikely, but really should be cut, with;

Carroll
Curnow
Plowman
Setterfield

I'm gobsmacked that Stocker gets cut, and other who have shown nothing but average performances continually get gifted games.

Carroll ? I am betting the club is banking on him having a breakout season next year.

Maybe the club is not finished with delistings yet btw

 

[BlueTongue]

Carroll?

Give him a chance only been there 5 mins.


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Possibly, same with Ed (whom I love - but list management requires tough love), but I know I wouldn't want Ed in a side picked for a GF due to his continual turnovers, and that was before he had 12 months out. I guess 6 spots is enough anyway. Setters and Plowman need to be depth and go no where near the side except in Dire, Dire, Dire emergency.

 

[Wickzki]

Just waiting to see who else gets their marching orders