Free Agency Mabior Chol [joins Gold Coast as an unrestricted free agent]

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[The Nostradamus]

He'd be loving Nankervis back to do the heavy lifting. 3rd forward/2nd ruck is his spot. Nothing else.

Agree which is also where I see CCJ so will be interesting to see what happens there

I’d imagine CCJ goes elsewhere

 

[tiger_tough]

Agree which is also where I see CCJ so will be interesting to see what happens there

I’d imagine CCJ goes elsewhere

Yeah. After last week I was happy not to see Chol ever again but he really is an ideal 2nd ruck for us and fits in better forward with jack and lynch.

Not sure who ends up staying. A couple more weeks like that for Chol and I'd be inclined to trade CCJ.

 

[Jozzy]

Agree which is also where I see CCJ so will be interesting to see what happens there

I’d imagine CCJ goes elsewhere

I think almost all Tiger supports would disagree.

Chol is pretty much at his ceiling, CCJ still has a lot of development to come. It was really good seeing Chol do well yesterday but I'd still take CCJ over him.

 

[guruisatiger]

chol will be at richmond next year

 

[halfback dasher]

chol will be at richmond next year

Want a bet

 

[perplexed]

The Tiges will keep him. They may have to cough up more than they would like to, but they should have plenty of room in their cap.
CCJ can't ruck. If he makes it, it will be as a forward. Neither will be stars, but Chol shows more promise and more flexible.

 

[guruisatiger]

Want a bet

I don't bet
But he will be at Richmond next year

 

[guruisatiger]

I think almost all Tiger supports would disagree.

Chol is pretty much at his ceiling, CCJ still has a lot of development to come. It was really good seeing Chol do well yesterday but I'd still take CCJ over him.

I wouldn't,,but hey its just an opinion
I hope we keep both

 

[Mt Isa Mustang]

I wouldn't,,but hey its just an opinion
I hope we keep both

Would you play lynch, Riewoldt, chol, CCJ, nank all in the same team?

if not, one of CCJ or Chol is gone to a team that will actually play them.

 

[tiger_tough]

The Tiges will keep him. They may have to cough up more than they would like to, but they should have plenty of room in their cap.
CCJ can't ruck. If he makes it, it will be as a forward. Neither will be stars, but Chol shows more promise and more flexible.

Have you watched him @ VFL level? He can ruck. We never got the chance to see him play as a 2nd ruck in the seniors with Nank. He's more of a legit key position forward, where Chol is a 3rd forward option who gets crushed when he's a main target.

IMO our best mix is Nank first ruck, Jack, Lynch and Chol forward with Chol chopping out in the ruck. The issue is Jack will only be around for 1 more season, 2 max. Then what? We either need to hold onto CCJ and make it work, or, we need to draft/trade a Jack replacement ASAP because Chol will get smashed once Jack retires is he's the 2nd KPF.

Will be interesting to see what happens. Both CCJ and Chol have different strengths and can both add something to the side, but we can't play both of them especially while Jack (and Lynch) are still around.

 

[guruisatiger]

Would you play lynch, Riewoldt, chol, CCJ, nank all in the same team?

if not, one of CCJ or Chol is gone to a team that will actually play them.

That's your opinion,,not mine

 

[perplexed]

Have you watched him @ VFL level? He can ruck. We never got the chance to see him play as a 2nd ruck in the seniors with Nank. He's more of a legit key position forward, where Chol is a 3rd forward option who gets crushed when he's a main target.

IMO our best mix is Nank first ruck, Jack, Lynch and Chol forward with Chol chopping out in the ruck. The issue is Jack will only be around for 1 more season, 2 max. Then what? We either need to hold onto CCJ and make it work, or, we need to draft/trade a Jack replacement ASAP because Chol will get smashed once Jack retires is he's the 2nd KPF.

Will be interesting to see what happens. Both CCJ and Chol have different strengths and can both add something to the side, but we can't play both of them especially while Jack (and Lynch) are still around.

I agree that Chol is the better ruck and CCJ the better forward prospect. I have only seen a few of CCJ's AFL games. I should see more before I put a line through him as a ruck, but he looked uncompetitive. Maybe with a couple more preseasons and he will develop the strength and endurance to compete.

I would definitely keep and play Chol. CCJ wont be happy spending another year in the twos and only getting games when the first choice forwards are injured. Also, longer term, if Chol and Lynch are the other key forwards, do you really want a third giant up there?

 

[tiger_tough]

I agree that Chol is the better ruck and CCJ the better forward prospect. I have only seen a few of CCJ's AFL games. I should see more before I put a line through him as a ruck, but he looked uncompetitive. Maybe with a couple more preseasons and he will develop the strength and endurance to compete.

I would definitely keep and play Chol. CCJ wont be happy spending another year in the twos and only getting games when the first choice forwards are injured. Also, longer term, if Chol and Lynch are the other key forwards, do you really want a third giant up there?

Yes. The beauty of Chol is that he's so fast and mobile we lose nothing in the defensive side but still have another marking target. That's his point of difference. He does lack strength and aggression though - both things CCJ has.

I think Lynch, CCJ and Chol can work together but I doubt either is willing to wait around for Jack to retire to give it a go. Hopefully we draft a couple of KPFs this year.

 

[fargothegreat]

I wouldn't be surprised if Chol ended up at Essendon.

 

[Zach Package]

I wouldn't be surprised if Chol ended up at Essendon.

Can see it, and wouldn't mind it as a stop gap measure. There’s no plug and play replacement out there as good as Hooker so the next best thing is probably someone capable of rucking and allowing Wright to spend more time in the forward half.

Don’t see him as a primary ruck though

 

[tiger_tough]

Can see it, and wouldn't mind it as a stop gap measure. There’s no plug and play replacement out there as good as Hooker so the next best thing is probably someone capable of rucking and allowing Wright to spend more time in the forward half.

Don’t see him as a primary ruck though

A Wright and Chol duo would really have opposition defenders shaking in their boots. He needs to be the icing on top not a focal point.

 

[Mt Isa Mustang]

That's your opinion,,not mine

I can understand you would want to keep them, but why would they stay if they have shown they can play at the level (to varying degrees) but aren't getting picked.

 

[Zach Package]

A Wright and Chol duo would really have opposition defenders shaking in their boots. He needs to be the icing on top not a focal point.

He’d be very much 3rd banana behind Jones and Wright plus Stringer when he pushes forward which I could tolerate while we look for something with a little bit more substance.

Don’t see anything else on the market as a bridge between now and when someone like Eyre or Baldwin can be genuinely competitive and/or the inevitable tilt at a King twin or their non union Mexican equivalent.

 

[guruisatiger]

I can understand you would want to keep them, but why would they stay if they have shown they can play at the level (to varying degrees) but aren't getting picked.

Why not

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Chol has most the tools to be a very decent key defender imho

Thats what i would want my club to get him for, a defender.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Thats what i would want my club to get him for, a defender.

Dogs are the one that came to mind tbh.

 

[Flags_In_The_Bag]

Not much hindsight shown by Tiger people on here if you see what they wrote at the start of this thread compared to how they see it now after a four goal game.

 

[banzai]

Thats what i would want my club to get him for, a defender.

As a ruckmen he is pretty awful when he drops in to defence. Just gets nowhere near the drop of the ball. Can also be lazy, would be beaten on the lead too easily. I could never see him having the intensity to be an AFL level defender, you cant afford lapses.

Hes a strange player, best is excellent but his bad games are awful. After that final against Brisbane last year I think most Richmond fans would have decided he could never play a final again. Even his VFL finals have been awful. Played only 56% gametime on the weekend which suits him. Id lean to keeping Chol over CJ but clearly we wont be keeping both.

 

[Mt Isa Mustang]

Why not

Because players prefer to play AFL vs reserves

 

[The 747]

Can see it, and wouldn't mind it as a stop gap measure. There’s no plug and play replacement out there as good as Hooker so the next best thing is probably someone capable of rucking and allowing Wright to spend more time in the forward half.

Don’t see him as a primary ruck though

Not sure that works, you would have two players in the same role. Wright is not going to cut it as the main target, neither is Chol and neither are main rucks.