Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 3) - The Biggest Loser

[Geoffa32]

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What would Clarko know

More importantly, what does Rory Laird think....

 

[Go the Guts]

NOTE TO NICKS:

LISTEN TO BLIGHTY AND LEARN!!

MALCOLM BLIGHT - THE MESSIAH - EXPLAINS HOW TO COACH

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

NOTE TO NICKS:

LISTEN TO BLIGHTY AND LEARN!!

MALCOLM BLIGHT - THE MESSIAH - EXPLAINS HOW TO COACH

You can't teach stupid unfortunately.

 

[Doctor B]

Nicks needs a director of coaching after 5 years?

All 3 assistants contracted next year?

 

[Shuestar13]

Montgomery doesn’t seem to be mentioned as much for our (WCE) role… Wonder if this means he is staying at GWS or if rumours of heading back to SA are true, near locked in to go to the AFC

Get Malcolm as the director of coaching.

 

[GreyCrow]

Nicks needs a director of coaching after 5 years?

All 3 assistants contracted next year?

Balme

 

[cleanhands]

Balme

AFC not interested

 

[maxlilly]

Nicks needs a director of coaching after 5 years?

All 3 assistants contracted next year?

Ken might be available next week

 

[maxlilly]

AFC not interested

Over qualified ?

 

[fuic08]

AFC not interested

The deadwood we collect wouldn't like the accountability

 

[GreyCrow]

AFC not interested

Then they must have Bartel or Tom Harley

Or they are idiots

Hmm ok I answered my question

 

[Miss Vanessa]

Not a bad read. Not a huge amount of analysis though, reasonable perspective though

BARRETT: Loyalty matters in footy, but flags matter more

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Thompson had won about 50% of all his games with Geelong up until 2007, and had played 3 finals series, including a run to the Prelim in 2005 which were it not for a crazy last 30 seconds should have been a GF appearance. He had also helped build a list that was incredibly strong and destined for greatness.

He had the added benefit of being a 2 times best and fairest and 3 times premiership player - including 1 as captain - playing under one of the all time great coaches of the game.

Hardwick was a two times premiership player at two different clubs, an All Australian and a best and fairest winner at Essendon. He too, played under 2 coaching greats.

Hardwick had won about 50% of his games up until his premiership year and had Richmond play in 3 finals series leading up to 2017.

There were reasons for both of these clubs to stick by these coaches despite feelings that the clubs had underperformed.

Does anyone really need me to compare Nicks’s coaching record and all round standing in the game to these two to understand why backing in those guys was a gamble worth taking and why we should part ways with Nicks as soon as possible?

 

[GreyCrow]

It could be one of those ' lucky we had the perfect person inside the club already '

Come on down former board director Rooooo

 

[King Elvis]

Nicks needs a director of coaching after 5 years?

All 3 assistants contracted next year?

Weak as piss.

 

[FR0GGY]

Nicks needs a director of coaching after 5 years?

All 3 assistants contracted next year?

So Dimma is getting rid of Luko because he’s soft and they are looking at Himmelberg , did he just read the nickname dragon?

 

[kirky]

Nicks needs a director of coaching after 5 years?

All 3 assistants contracted next year?

FFS, he is 5 years into this job.

If he hasn’t required one so far, is this just to justify his two year extension?

So pathetic.

 

[GreyCrow]

Didn't someone post the Roo quote ' just hire the footy director as your coach '

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

FFS, he is 5 years into this job.

If he hasn’t required one so far, is this just to justify his two year extension?

So pathetic.

Clearly it's an admission they realise now Nicks is not up to the job.

Simplest solution is to move him into Kelly's role, sack Kelly & bring in someone like Buckley who can actually coach.

 

[Soggy2112]

My point was Dipper and Derm backed it up.

Hard to argue Ginnivan hasn’t backed it up to this point in his career.

 

[crow2crow]

Clearly it's an admission they realise now Nicks is not up to the job.

Simplest solution is to move him into Kelly's role, sack Kelly & bring in someone like Buckley who can actually coach.

but what is kellys role? its not a role. sack kelly yes. but nix cant do something that doesnt exist.

 

[Rotayjay]

In the finals thread we were talking about Adam Kingsley

Adam Kingsley

Age

49

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

and it got me thinking. Is Nicks really the worst of the 18 coaches?

Sydney - John Longmire - premiership coach, 4 grand finals, makes finals consistently, clearly superior to Nicks

Port - Ken Hinkley - terrible finals record but makes finals often, therefore superior to Nicks

Geelong - Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

- multiple premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

GWS - Adam Kingsley

Adam Kingsley

Age

49

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

- multiple finals appearances and finals wins, superior to Nicks

Brisbane - Chris Fagan - question marks but made finals almost every year, clearly superior to Nicks

Bulldogs - Luke Beveridge - question marks but premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Hawthorn - Sam Mitchell - surged ahead in rebuild, made finals, won final, superior to Nicks

Carlton - Michael Voss - made and won final, superior to Nicks

Collingwood - Craig McRae

Craig Mcrae

Age

50

Ht

176cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.9

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.2

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.4

5star

- premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Fremantle - Justin Longmuir

Justin Longmuir

Age

43

Ht

196cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.0

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

0.6

3star

- has made and won finals, superior to Nicks

Essendon - Brad Scott - coached ordinary North list to prelims, superior to Nicks

St Kilda - Ross Lyon - question marks but coached multiple finals wins and several grand finals, clearly superior to Nicks

Gold Coast - Damien Hardwick - multiple premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Melbourne - Simon Goodwin

Simon Goodwin

Age

47

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

- big question marks but premiership coach, superior to Nicks

Adelaide - Nicks - never made finals in 5 attempts

West Coast - was Adam Simpson, replacement unknown - Simpson is a premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

North Melbourne - Alastair Clarkson - multiple premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Richmond - Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

46

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

, gets a mulligan due to decline of premiership list, superior to Nicks until shown otherwise

Yep, he really is the worst.

 

[crow2crow]

In the finals thread we were talking about Adam Kingsley and it got me thinking. Is Nicks really the worst of the 18 coaches?

Sydney - John Longmire - premiership coach, 4 grand finals, makes finals consistently, clearly superior to Nicks

Port - Ken Hinkley - terrible finals record but makes finals often, therefore superior to Nicks

Geelong - Chris Scott - multiple premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

GWS - Adam Kingsley - multiple finals appearances and finals wins, superior to Nicks

Brisbane - Chris Fagan - question marks but made finals almost every year, clearly superior to Nicks

Bulldogs - Luke Beveridge - question marks but premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Hawthorn - Sam Mitchell - surged ahead in rebuild, made finals, won final, superior to Nicks

Carlton - Michael Voss - made and won final, superior to Nicks

Collingwood - Craig McRae - premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Fremantle - Justin Longmuir - has made and won finals, superior to Nicks

Essendon - Brad Scott - coached ordinary North list to prelims, superior to Nicks

St Kilda - Ross Lyon - question marks but coached multiple finals wins and several grand finals, clearly superior to Nicks

Gold Coast - Damien Hardwick - multiple premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Melbourne - Simon Goodwin - big question marks but premiership coach, superior to Nicks

Adelaide - Nicks - never made finals in 5 attempts

West Coast - was Adam Simpson, replacement unknown - Simpson is a premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

North Melbourne - Alastair Clarkson - multiple premiership coach, clearly superior to Nicks

Richmond - Adem Yze, gets a mulligan due to decline of premiership list, superior to Nicks until shown otherwise

Yep, he really is the worst.

thanks for that. got any valium for us?

yeh its bad. look how many of them have flags too.

theres only yze who has no case to say hes better wow

 

[Rotayjay]

I won't count West Coast because its permanent coaching position is vacant, but of the 17 active coaches, 7 are premiership coaches. 9 have at least made grand finals. Yze and Nicks are the only two who have never made finals. Yze has had 1 attempt with a rapidly declining list and Nicks has had 5.

 

[fuic08]

I won't count West Coast because its permanent coaching position is vacant, but of the 17 active coaches, 7 are premiership coaches. 9 have at least made grand finals. Yze and Nicks are the only two who have never made finals. Yze has had 1 attempt with a rapidly declining list and Nicks has had 5.

You wouldn't pick Nicks over any other current coach, he's clearly the worst in the AFL.

 

[Cromulant]

You wouldn't..... but who do you take this risk on in the hypothetical that we do sack him midway through next season