Pick 19: I would be stoked if we can get Jed Lamb or Kieran Harper
Pick 37: Tape or Watson would be fantastic
Pick 54: Whatever.
Pick 37: Tape or Watson would be fantastic
Pick 54: Whatever.
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National Draft picks 19, 37, 54 who should we get?
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Buddy can play up the ground and is great on the HFF but I still like him playing predominately in the forward 50. Also the attraction in picking up a guy like Lamb (if he is as good as he is meant to be) is it will take the pressure off Buddy and allow him and the Hawks to be more dangerous.
Yeah, we could go with the Shoe playing in the forward line or Whitecross could take this role. But are we going too tall with Shoenmakers in there if Hale plays resting forward and does either the Shoe or Whitecross have the penetrating kick that a guy like Lamb does who is said to be able to kick goals from outside 50?
It will come down to how highly the Hawks rate a guy like Lamb. If they dont get him I really like the idea of Whitecross and Shoenmakers in the forward line.
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Just picked Isaac Smith at 19 in the bigfooty phantom draft for the Hawks.
Link here: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=773144&page=10
Also just a side note. There is word that Matt Watson might slide into the 2nd round on draft day. So the possibility of him being available at 19 is more possible than many bigfooty users realise.
Would be a great physical presence down back if available. Really like his game. Big bodied. Good one on one. Booming 60m kick. Not super fast and he could get exposed by some of the faster forwards which is why he might slide. Could play a couple of games from season one, but certainly wouldn't play 20+ games, 10 would be a very good return for the kid. From season 2 would start to really push hard for a regular position.
Those I view as potential options include: Jayden Pitt, Scott Lycett, Isaac Smith, Matt Watson and Jed Lamb. (2-3 of these could easily be taken by pick 19).
Billie Smedts and Kieran Harper I don't consider any chance. Both on talent are worth top 10 selections, but should both be gone by 15. Both dream picks.
Link here: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=773144&page=10
Also just a side note. There is word that Matt Watson might slide into the 2nd round on draft day. So the possibility of him being available at 19 is more possible than many bigfooty users realise.
Would be a great physical presence down back if available. Really like his game. Big bodied. Good one on one. Booming 60m kick. Not super fast and he could get exposed by some of the faster forwards which is why he might slide. Could play a couple of games from season one, but certainly wouldn't play 20+ games, 10 would be a very good return for the kid. From season 2 would start to really push hard for a regular position.
Those I view as potential options include: Jayden Pitt, Scott Lycett, Isaac Smith, Matt Watson and Jed Lamb. (2-3 of these could easily be taken by pick 19).
Billie Smedts and Kieran Harper I don't consider any chance. Both on talent are worth top 10 selections, but should both be gone by 15. Both dream picks.
i'd like buddy to return to FF! that is the position that made him so devastating!!!
I'd like to pick up Jed Lamb... would be a real live wire for us!
I'd like to pick up Jed Lamb... would be a real live wire for us!
Sounds like a really interesting choice Knightmare. I certainly wouldn't be upset if the hawks picked him up and we do need an outside player with pace.
One thing I would say is that I note you were thinking of taking a ruckman with the hawks second pick. I reckon that is pretty unlikely for the hawks unless there is someone with real talent around as the hawks have 5 rucks on the books already and have taken a young ruck in the last two drafts. Maybe looking more for another defender in the Seb Tape mould. Then again you never know.
One thing I would say is that I note you were thinking of taking a ruckman with the hawks second pick. I reckon that is pretty unlikely for the hawks unless there is someone with real talent around as the hawks have 5 rucks on the books already and have taken a young ruck in the last two drafts. Maybe looking more for another defender in the Seb Tape mould. Then again you never know.
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Tom Hickey is a QLD zone selection. Next time I update my draft he won't be in my draft order. So I think it is likely Hawthorn wait till the rookie draft.
Lycett at 19 is available (very unlikely) is a very good option and well worth consideration. Was very, very close to being my selection.
Ben Jacobs also, while I expected him to be available I don't think he will be on draft day. Will have an immediate impact from season 1 and also very nearly took him.
As a rookie Russell Gabriel would be a really nice option. Had a great season in the VFL and could be a good immediate ruckman.
As a project rookie ruckman I really like Andrew Phillips and I think while raw now, with time he could develop into a Mark Jamar type ruckman and follow a similar path.
Not sure Seb Tape is the answer and didn't really consider him because I don't feel he is the right fit for this team. Probably ready to play from season 2. Not quite sure Hawthorn need another 3rd tall defender. If anything a big bodied defender should be the aim if one comes available, but if not then Shoenmakers is fine. He is still growing and might get to 191/192cm and can play some key position back but would struggle against some of the bigger forwards. So not really a big improvement on what you already have for mine.
On draft day Lamb is a likely one.
I expect Prestia, Darling and possibly Watson to drop and probably for Jacobs, Lycett and I.Smith to go a little higher.
I'm on the Pitt bandwagon... he looks like pendles but with a bit more zip...
fingers crossed.
fingers crossed.
I think you will find that Shoey is 195/196cm and has put on so much muscle in the past year that people were calling him Dolph. For this reason I believe we are right for key backs and certainly don't need anymore 3rd tall defenders as you stated, and our drafting should revolve around targeting the best fleet of footballers in the draft.
Jason Whatever will end up a first round pick. He's pretty much gone off the radar. Unsure, but whoever gets Whatever will end up with a 200 game player. Very confident.
Herald Sun released their phantom draft
Apparently around pick 12 they're expecting the Demons to pick up a player that resembles Luke Hodge. If that's true, how the hell will he be available at pick 12?
Apparently around pick 12 they're expecting the Demons to pick up a player that resembles Luke Hodge. If that's true, how the hell will he be available at pick 12?
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Well it certainly cant be a better draft then the one Hodge was in.
Perhaps there mistaken?
Maybe they meant Hahn?
I see they have named Jed Lamb as our 1st pick
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Late picks are not all doom and gloom here are some interesting players taken late:
Pick 58 (2001) Dane Swan
Pick 64 (1999) Cameron Bruce
Pick 66 (1997) Nathan. D Brown (Pies)
Pick 71 (2001) Brian Lake
Pick 77 (1994) Ben Dixon
Pick 78 (1997) Richie Vandenberg
Pick 79 (1990) James Hird
Pick 82 (1997) Nathan Thompson
Pick 87 (1992) Damian Hardwick
Pick 90 (1992) Scott Burns
Pick 94 (1994) Jade Rawlings
...............and of course Chris Grant at 104 or abouts off the top off my head.
Pick 58 (2001) Dane Swan
Pick 64 (1999) Cameron Bruce
Pick 66 (1997) Nathan. D Brown (Pies)
Pick 71 (2001) Brian Lake
Pick 77 (1994) Ben Dixon
Pick 78 (1997) Richie Vandenberg
Pick 79 (1990) James Hird
Pick 82 (1997) Nathan Thompson
Pick 87 (1992) Damian Hardwick
Pick 90 (1992) Scott Burns
Pick 94 (1994) Jade Rawlings
...............and of course Chris Grant at 104 or abouts off the top off my head.
Playing style only Shepp; I don't expect Ben Jacobs to be the next Luke Hodge. Take it with a grain of salt
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Pick 19: Matthew Watson(If there)- Jeb Lamb(Most likely)
Pick 37: Shannon Rioli
Pick 54: Cameron O'Shea
Pick 66: David Kruse or Myles Sewell
Pick 88: Pass
Pre-Season Draft: Robert Campbell
Rookie Draft: Warrick Andreoli, Travis Tuck, Edward Curnow and Troy Davis
Pick 37: Shannon Rioli
Pick 54: Cameron O'Shea
Pick 66: David Kruse or Myles Sewell
Pick 88: Pass
Pre-Season Draft: Robert Campbell
Rookie Draft: Warrick Andreoli, Travis Tuck, Edward Curnow and Troy Davis
If we want Campbell why not just take him with pick 88? We do want him I'd say it would be with a rookie pick.
Tuck will train over summer and if he impresses will be picked with the new rookie rule in March.
What about this Kid, Luke Dahlhaus for Pick 54 his quick and fast
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=104415
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=104415
Some decent highlights. V Good speed and awareness. Good kick. Could be our next Platten with that mop. (Boy wouldn't it be great to grab someone as good as the "Rat" was. Brings back fond memories)
Pelchin stated quite clearly that Robbies time at hawthorn was finished, we would have no need for him anyway. The rest of your post I like
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Pelchin stated quite clearly that Robbies time at hawthorn was finished, we would have no need for him anyway. The rest of your post I like
Yer well then Troy Davis could get picked up with our last pick or Dodd?
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have u guys heard much about Shannon Rioli?
In every phantom draft i've seen, he isn't rated anywhere in the first 100! does anyone know anything about him?
In every phantom draft i've seen, he isn't rated anywhere in the first 100! does anyone know anything about him?
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Well it certainly cant be a better draft then the one Hodge was in.
Perhaps there mistaken?
Maybe they meant Hahn?
I see they have named Jed Lamb as our 1st pick
Amongst most bigfooty draft guys he is generally considered an early 2nd rounder interestingly. But I rate him signficantly higher.
Jacobs is a flanker type with a long 60m kick. On style reminds me more of a Shannon Hurn or a Josh Drummond than a Luke Hodge.
Certainly has the midfield ability and can go forward also. He's a powerful unit, but not a Luke Hodge type tough guy and won't be a Luke Hodge level star by any stretch. I think he will go top 15 in this draft. Likely to Melbourne at 12 or Adelaide at 14. Should be a good value selection.
I think he will be a pretty immediate player and will play from season 1. Outside of Isaac Smith and Scott Lycett, Jacobs was my other close consideration in the bigfooty phantom draft. All should be gone by the Hawthorn selection on draft day for mine.
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Pretty short at only 174cm. If drafted likely to go in the rookie draft rather than national draft.
Has a bit of speed and wins a little bit of the contested footy. Applies pressure. Does all the right things. Agile and good at evading. Has good footy smarts. Does the team things.
Not a strong mark. Probably not enough of special flair for my liking. Really doesn't have a weapon or anything that makes him stand out which you really need at that height. Speed is good, but not special good. Doesn't have great hurt factor on his kick even though it can go 50m. Probably not a pure enough crumbing forward for my liking.
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