Key defence is poor in the short term, and it doesn't help when the #1 and #2 available of an already weak unit pretty much all year are the #2 and #5 or 6 on the list. And the #1 from the year before isn't around any more.
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Opinion North Melbourne Priority Picks Part 2 - 2023/2024
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AFL would never have taken those picks back
They should never have even given them to you in the first place. Can't just keep giving you guys priority picks every year until you're good, problems at your club are way deeper than some picks can fix.
Thanks P&P we have taken your feedback on board. Still wish we had the same access to PP's that the Hawks had, would have made it a much quicker turn around.
oh well
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Of course he would of been handy. But he wanted to head back to South Australia
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But in all seriousness, I am curious on how North Melbourne will do In the draft and trade period. I don't think North Melbourne will trade pick 2, unless one of the teams in the top 8 makes a tempting offer.
Maybe pick 2 for a pick 12, a 2025 1st rounder and a decent player aged 21 to 25 years old.
Maybe pick 2 for a pick 12, a 2025 1st rounder and a decent player aged 21 to 25 years old.
LukeParkerno1
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No way in the current climate is anyone offering enough for pick 2, you are talking at least one pick in the top 6-8 this year plus a guaranteed top 10 the following year for a club to even consider it. North have an early second, they can take a tall there. Take the best mid pick 2 (or best available).
North traded one of their 2024 end of first rounders for Stephens it's true, but they got 25 back. It was basically a pick downgrade from 19 to 25.
Fisher was traded for two of North's existing picks in the 20s it seems, receiving Pick 17 back from Carlton. On pure points it's another pick downgrade. It doesn't seem to have anything directly to do with their other priority pick....(?)
They traded their other priority 2024 first for a 2023 first, with Gold Coast
I get that "Duh huh, North wasted their two priority firsts on Fisher and Stephens" is a nice catchphrase. But it doesn't seem remotely as bad when you actually break it down.
Clubs just can't continue to seek draft concessions year after due to their own incompetence.
If North don't get their act together by the time Tassie start getting all the talent, then there needs to be real discussions about their viability.
If North don't get their act together by the time Tassie start getting all the talent, then there needs to be real discussions about their viability.
The whole draft system is based on equalisation? Regardless of fault.
The competition had more competition with the existence of priory picks too.
sr36
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With stories of a really even top end, there might be a bit of trading down a few spots if one club rates someone well above what's left and the pick holder rates them the same.
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So whats the go on here?
North Melbourne was not too good in 2024. 3 wins and 20 losses.
So....
3 wins and 14 losses in 2020
4 wins, 17 losses and a draw in 2021
2 wins and 20 losses in 2022
3 wins and 20 losses in 2023
3 wins and 20 losses in 2024
So 3 wins this season
6 wins in the last 2 years
8 wins in the last 3 years
12 wins and a draw in the last 4 years
15 wins and a draw in the last 5 years.
Brisbane were very bad from 2014 to 2018 and they had 5 seasons in a row in the bottom 4.
North Melbourne was not too good in 2024. 3 wins and 20 losses.
So....
3 wins and 14 losses in 2020
4 wins, 17 losses and a draw in 2021
2 wins and 20 losses in 2022
3 wins and 20 losses in 2023
3 wins and 20 losses in 2024
So 3 wins this season
6 wins in the last 2 years
8 wins in the last 3 years
12 wins and a draw in the last 4 years
15 wins and a draw in the last 5 years.
Brisbane were very bad from 2014 to 2018 and they had 5 seasons in a row in the bottom 4.
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Just seeing the trade threads.
Brisbane handed up pick 20 to richmond for a few picks after pick 30.
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There has been a complete overhaul of North’s list throughout that period. We now have the youngest list in the competition and these are the only players who remain at the club since the end of the 2020 season: Bailey Scott, LDU, McDonald, Simpkin, Larkey, Comben, Xerri and Zurhaar.
I think that most will agree they have done a reasonable job in retaining the players they should have (hopefully LDU re-signs soon to solidify this). Take a look through the club’s 2020 list yourself to see some of the absolute list cloggers who have been discarded since the end of that season. There would also be other substandard players who joined the club and been delisted between then and now as well.
In addition to the enormous list changes, throw in the fact that two of our most talented first round picks left the club in recent seasons, which prolonged the rebuild - Horne-Francis (#1, 2021) and Thomas (#8, 2018), as well as an established full back in Ben McKay. The task was made more difficult with the poor appointments of Shaw and Noble, followed by the Hawthorn racism scandal, which greatly reduced the impact that Clarko could have with the list during his first season in charge.
The way I see it, Clarkson has had one uninterrupted season to work with the youngest list in the competition that has added Sheezel, Wardlaw, McKercher, Duursma and three other end of first round picks since he started. The upcoming draft will see them add 2-3 more players in the first and beginning of the second round (depending on what happens with splitting picks etc).
Clarko and Todd Viney walked into an absolute shambles of a club. They’ve provided stability and have started to build a culture that motivates players to stay. From R13-24 of the 2024 season they had three bad performances, while they showed plenty of promise and improvement in all other games.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think after this year there’ll be two more uncompromised drafts before Tassie enters. Therefore, I think North could be on track to experience a spike in their performances at exactly the right time. Of course this isn’t a given, and there’s a lot that needs to improve and go right; however, there are several other clubs around the competition that are at higher risk of bottoming out when the access to young talent will be incredibly scarce.
The analysis of NM needs to go deeper than a simple W/L, because that doesn’t factor in all of the changes and instability the list, and entire club, has endured over the past 5 years. The next two seasons are crucial and the club should start to be judged more harshly according to W/L in 2025, and especially, 2026. Those performances will determine whether Clarko is extended or not, and I think every NM supporter out there with an IQ above 70 knew that was always going to be the case.
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