Our best 22 - Post Draft

[AJ121]

B: H Slattery - D Fletcher - C Dempsey
HB: D Myers - P Ryder - B Houli
C: A Lovett - J Watson - J Winderlich
HF: K Reimers - S Lucas - A McPhee
F: A Davey - M Lloyd - A Monfries
FOLL: D Hille - M McVeigh - B Stanton
I/C: J Laycock - A Welsh - S Lonergan - S Gumbleton

 

[rusman]

I dont think hocking will play 20 games. I dont see what he has done on the footy feild to warrant that. You have gotta be a big fan of his.
Hes shown tallent but i put alot of other players ahead of him. Hopefully im wrong and he turns out to be better. what makes u think he will play so many games?

 

[FandangoDingo]

Best possible side:

B: H. Slattery, Fletcher, Pears
HB: Lovett-Murray, Ryder, McPhee
C: Lovett, Prismall, Winderlich
HF: Monfries, Gumbleton, Davey
F: Jetta, Lloyd, Lucas
R: Hille, Stanton, McVeigh
Int: Watson, Welsh, Lonergan, Laycock

Bendigo:

B: T. Slattery, Hurley, Crameri
HB: Reimers (Ess. Emerg), Daniher, Hooker
C: Houli (Ess. Emerg), Hocking, Dyson (Ess. Emerg)
HF: Magin, Neagle, Myers
F: Williams, Still, Nash
R: Bellchambers, Skipworth, Zaharakis
Int: Quinn, Bendigo list, Bendigo list, Bendigo list

So Dempsey can't even get a game for Bendigo??

No Reimers??? Dyson ahead of Myers??? Did you watch any Essendon games this year???

 

[loopy_cam]

I don't think it's totally out of the question that Dyson will play round one. He is Knighter's love-child after all.

 

[DaSawx]

Slatts has to stay in as he is the only player who can play on the small forwards unless we bring in Atkinson.

Fletch can

Tredrea - Ryder
Westhoff - Pears
Motlop - Fletcher
Ebert - Slattery

 

[Sigmund]

I dont think hocking will play 20 games. I dont see what he has done on the footy feild to warrant that. You have gotta be a big fan of his.
Hes shown tallent but i put alot of other players ahead of him. Hopefully im wrong and he turns out to be better. what makes u think he will play so many games?

agreed - I have not seen anything in Hocking to suggest that he will make it at AFL level..

 

[longytap]

Slattery Fletcher Welsh
Stanton Ryder Pears
Houli Prismall Myers
Reimers Lloyd Gumby
Davey Lucas Jetta
Hille Watson Lonergan
Bench: Layzycock,Mcphee,Dempsey,Monfries/Neagle​

Not a huge Slatts fan but i think he just fits structure,Winders and lovett a bit stiff.

 

[Slattery_20]

Fletch can

Tredrea - Ryder
Westhoff - Pears
Motlop - Fletcher
Ebert - Slattery

Did you watch any games last year? Fletch was struggling badly enough on the slower blokes, let alone someone like Motlop

 

[DaSawx]

Did you watch any games last year? Fletch was struggling badly enough on the slower blokes, let alone someone like Motlop

You got me, never seen a game in my life.

What I do know is that Fletch is a smart player and we don't have a good match-up for Motlop.

At least he can use his smarts and use his height when there's a 50-50 contest

 

[stander]

Slattery Fletcher Welsh

Stanton Ryder Pears
Houli Prismall Myers
Reimers Lloyd Gumby
Davey Lucas Jetta
Hille Watson Lonergan
Bench: Layzycock,Mcphee,Dempsey,Monfries/Neagle​

Not a huge Slatts fan but i think he just fits structure,Winders and lovett a bit stiff.

Laycock to shake off all injury, find form and string a few form games in the reserves before he deserves a lock. Neagle a certainty. Gumby can help out Hille.

 

[kaskine]

Slattery Fletcher Welsh

Stanton Ryder Pears
Houli Prismall Myers
Reimers Lloyd Gumby
Davey Lucas Jetta
Hille Watson Lonergan
Bench: Layzycock,Mcphee,Dempsey,Monfries/Neagle​

Not a huge Slatts fan but i think he just fits structure,Winders and lovett a bit stiff.

why would you put layzycock if he is layzy?

 

[Slattery_20]

You got me, never seen a game in my life.

What I do know is that Fletch is a smart player and we don't have a good match-up for Motlop.

At least he can use his smarts and use his height when there's a 50-50 contest

We were trying that last year, throwing Fletch onto smaller blokes after they'd ripped up Nash or any other small-medium defender
It just didn't work

IMHO we need to have Pears as a true defender on the small/medium blokes, he's got the pace to cover them and plays pretty tight; release Fletch a bit and get rid of Nash & NLM.
Those two are not tight enough to hold a player and not good enough to read the play and chop off. Put Fletch as a flanker instead is my point.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

You got me, never seen a game in my life.

What I do know is that Fletch is a smart player and we don't have a good match-up for Motlop.

At least he can use his smarts and use his height when there's a 50-50 contest

Agree totally, Fletch would be a great matchup for Motlop and smaller blokes next year. He plays in front, reads the play well and will have his opponent chasing him for lengths of time.

It will allow him to help out Ryder and Pears more often.

 

[GoDons]

Agree totally, Fletch would be a great matchup for Motlop and smaller blokes next year. He plays in front, reads the play well and will have his opponent chasing him for lengths of time.

It will allow him to help out Ryder and Pears more often.

That's if he's fit.

He wasn't last year, and chances are that he'll battle a few niggles again.

If he's 90-100% up and going, he's an ideal option, aside from that he'll stick to the talls.

 

[longytap]

why would you put layzycock if he is layzy?

Layzycock only gets a spot because you need 2 ruckman. bellchambers is'nt ready yet, our lack of ruck depth assures layzycock a spot at the moment

 

[Sigmund]

Laycock to shake off all injury, find form and string a few form games in the reserves before he deserves a lock. Neagle a certainty. Gumby can help out Hille.

based on the few highlights I have seen of Gumby in the ruck for WA, I would not be holding out hope that he will even be close to an effective AFL ruckman. Happy to be corrected by someone who has seen more than I have

 

[DaSawx]

We were trying that last year, throwing Fletch onto smaller blokes after they'd ripped up Nash or any other small-medium defender
It just didn't work

He killed Medhurst, has beaten O'Loughlin in the past, even Eddie Betts, it has and does work, his smarts get the better of them and he's still not the slowest tall around

IMHO we need to have Pears as a true defender on the small/medium blokes, he's got the pace to cover them and plays pretty tight;

IMO Pears will play on talls and mediums, Slattery for a lot of the smalls.
Fletch doesn't have to play this way every week but I think it's a nice option to have

release Fletch a bit

We've also got Myers and Dempsey who we can release off HB and be creative

and get rid of Nash & NLM.

couldn't agree more

Put Fletch as a flanker instead is my point.

it's a decent point

 

[kaskine]

Layzycock only gets a spot because you need 2 ruckman. bellchambers is'nt ready yet, our lack of ruck depth assures layzycock a spot at the moment

why isn't bellchembers ready yet if he showed he can play in round 21 and 22.

 

[Longy413]

why isn't bellchembers ready yet if he showed he can play in round 21 and 22.

He showed exactly why he wasn't ready in those games.

All he did in those games was have a crack and show that he has good hands and can kick.

He didn't get a lot of the footy, he didn't win a lot of contests and he didn't have the fitness to play a lot of minutes.

He proved he has something to worked with, he also proved he isn't in our best 22.

Laycock remains a better option purely because he is more season ready.
You pick your best 22 on the premise that the bloke can play 22 games, Bellchambers isn't ready to do that.

 

[longytap]

why isn't bellchembers ready yet if he showed he can play in round 21 and 22.

He's played 2 games with limited TOG. Who knows he could be a fantastic player in 3-4 years time, but unfortunatley Layzycock is ahead of him at the minute.

 

[longytap]

Slattery Fletcher Welsh

Stanton Ryder Pears
Houli Prismall Myers
Reimers Lloyd Gumby
Davey Lucas Jetta
Hille Watson Lonergan
Bench: Layzycock,Mcphee,Dempsey,Monfries/Neagle​

Not a huge Slatts fan but i think he just fits structure,Winders and lovett a bit stiff.

How could i, i left mcveigh out?? apologies... Dempsey out Mcveigh in!!

 

[jetta2davey]

I've been down to training a few times recently and can tell you (probably already know) that Bellchambers is in excellent shape and his skills have improved out of sight.

I'd be putting my money for him to become the second string ruckman come round 1 unless Laycock really pulls his finger out.

 

[dirtywhitepacker]

With a view to mix youth and experience for development, I think our best 22 looks something like this:

B H. Slattery D.Fletcher T.Pears
HB D.Myers P.Ryder M.McVeigh
C B.Prismall J.Watson K.Reimers
HF A.Monfries M.Lloyd S.Gumbleton
F A.Davey S.Lucas L.Jetta
R D.Hille A.Welsh B.Stanton
I/C J.Laycock S.Lonergan A.McPhee B.Houli

Em J.Neagle M.Hurley J.Winderlich

I really think we have some decent midfield depth, and depth with our tall forward options for now. The midfield fringe players that I always get stuck in picking in the final 22 include: Reimers, Winderlich, Houli, Hocking, Dempsey & Lovett all fighting for 2 spots. In the forward line you've obviously got the present and the future FF/CHF's in Lloyd/Lucas & Neagle/Gumbleton, and it's going to be hard to fit them all into the same side. If these 4 can stay fit, I think will see a fair bit of rotation going on in that forward line throughout the season.

A possible bit of conjecture about McVeigh at HBF, but I just think his run, and foot skills, plus leadership will be very well suited here.

Laycock over Bellchambers, just, for now. Everyone involved with the EFC at any level really has to get behind this big fella and just support him this season. Bellchambers is looking very good, but he still has a fair way to go before being chucked in as our number 2 ruck option.

Nash, Dyson & Lovett-Murray just don't come into calculations for mine.

 

[Longy413]

I've been down to training a few times recently and can tell you (probably already know) that Bellchambers is in excellent shape and his skills have improved out of sight.

There is a big difference between running around a training track and being involved in 100 contests against 110kg gorillas every week.

It took Hille until he was 25 to be able to do that.

You think a 19 year old can do it?

 

[Ben the Gooner]

There is a big difference between running around a training track and being involved in 100 contests against 110kg gorillas every week.

It took Hille until he was 25 to be able to do that.

You think a 19 year old can do it?

Josh Fraser did it, and now he's a gun.

Oh.