List Mgmt. Our Trade/FA, Suburban & Country Town Thread

[Jen2310]

If we are at all interested in Tomlinson as defensive cover, we would need to delist Long.

We have re-signed Long according to Cleary.
But delisted Markov and Johnson and wil rookie them if available. so leaves another list spot avail

 

[Harry O]

Thats our last avail list spot on the senior list, with the remaining 3 would. be for the draft.

Now we see what they do with Long

Be stunned if at least one of AJ or Fin are not delisted with the promise of re rookie listing if available

 

[Harry O]

We have re-signed Long according to Cleary.

My name is not Cleary

 

[Jen2310]

 

[Jen2310]

Be stunned if at least one of AJ or Fin are not delisted with the promise of re rookie listing if available

Markov and Ash being the two delisted and planning on rooking them if avail

 

[Harry O]

Markov and Ash being the two delisted and planning on rooking them if avail

Makes sense.

 

[celestial]

I'm not following. Given how late the picks are, it's highly unlikely we'll be picking up future stars. Why risk clogging up the list for one year more than is necessary by using the last pick in the National Draft, rather than the Rookie Draft?

If brisbane, essendon and gc are forced to burn through all their picks to match early bids, it is possible for all our picks to shift atleast 6-7 spots, if not more.

It means there will be less teams ahead of our immediate picks , meaning we will have access to more talent at our picks.

As to the using of our last pick, it's a combined of collingwood having a good track record with late picks and national draft picks usually have a higher ceiling than a rookie who has been in the system for some time.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I mean... We're dangling Markov and Johnson hoping someone picks them up, right?

There's no rational reason to move them from our senior list to our rookie list otherwise. It doesn't create any additional senior list spots, because we're just going from 4 on the rookie list and 38 on the senior list to 36 on the senior list and 6 on the rookie list with this move.

So logically the only reason is to hope they actually get picked up by another team.

 

[Exambolor]

I suspect both will be re rookied……

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

So we don’t care that Ash is contracted?

Little bit surprised about Leggy

 

[sr36]

We have re-signed Long according to Cleary.
But delisted Markov and Johnson and wil rookie them if available. so leaves another list spot avail

Don't think it does - unless someone grabs Oleg.

It'll just be moving to the the salary cap saving of 36 and 6.

After adding Membrey. We'll have 3 spots for the draft and that's it.

 

[Scodog10]

Tend to agree.

Murphy was lightning striking. He suddenly became one of the best in the league in terms of judgement and timing to go with being one of the best in terms of commitment to the contest. And Markov was the fastest ever recorded player for a fair few years.

Reef is the one who could possibly develop, but it's a long shot.

Tend to agree.

Murphy was lightning striking. He suddenly became one of the best in the league in terms of judgement and timing to go with being one of the best in terms of commitment to the contest. And Markov was the fastest ever recorded player for a fair few years.

Reef is the one who could possibly develop, but it's a long shot.

I should also add that even though I’m “calling time” so to speak on half a dozen guys at least 12 months out from their end I will be barracking for the story. Premiership teams tend to be built on players coming from nowhere the two I mentioned in 2023, Stengle and SDK in 2022 and Morris and Lohman this year immediately spring to mind so I think we need at least two to bob up to be at the pointy end in 2025. I just think it’s more likely to come from Parker, Smit, Allan, HDM or Markov again than the others who are super fringe list retainees.

I agree that Reef’s the one as a defender because it’s possible that he has that mix of time in the system, talent and opportunity that came together for Murphy to exhibit what you identified he had in him.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

It'll just be for the salary cap saving of 36 and 6.

They're both contracted - It won't save us any money, as we'll have to pay them both what they're contracted for, right?

 

[Scodog10]

So we don’t care that Ash is contracted?

Little bit surprised about Leggy

His contract will be honoured by us on the rookie list or whoever poaches him.

 

[Jen2310]

Four re-sign and rookie commitments for 2025

Collingwood is pleased to announce Charlie Dean, Ned Long, Reef McInnes, and Lachie Sullivan have signed new deals with the Club.

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

 

[celestial]

Let me see if I have this right,
With ash and markov gone - thats 2 spots opened on our main list
senior at 36 (including the 3 picks)

Rookie list - smit, sully, dean, long

 

[CheckerTrade666]

I mean... We're dangling Markov and Johnson hoping someone picks them up, right?

There's no rational reason to move them from our senior list to our rookie list otherwise. It doesn't create any additional senior list spots, because we're just going from 4 on the rookie list and 38 on the senior list to 36 on the senior list and 6 on the rookie list with this move.

So logically the only reason is to hope they actually get picked up by another team.

Never say never, but I can’t remember many cases where a player being re rookied are picked up by another club. Aside from when Hugh Greenwood got picked up by North. I’d be very surprised if Ash or Oleg got picked up by anybody else.

 

[HFF]

It’s a bit of a fall from grace for Markov.
He really went backwards in 2024 compared to what he produced in 2023.

He needs a big summer and to find his legs again as he was anything but a speed demon in 2024

 

[partypie]

Markov and Ash being the two delisted and planning on rooking them if avail

Interesting that either one of them agreed to that while contracted, could be picked up by anyone.

 

[danielnajdek]

Wouldn’t even waste a rookie spot on Johnson.

 

[celestial]

Jen2310 with 36 on the senior list, we should get 2 more picks in the national draft correct ?

 

[JuniorB]

So we don’t care that Ash is contracted?

Little bit surprised about Leggy

I suppose in the last two seasons it was either Noble or Markov.
Now that we have Houston, Oleg is surplus to requirements.
Ash is a shadow of the player we drafted unfortunately, he seems totally devoid of confidence.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Interesting that either one of them agreed to that while contracted, could be picked up by anyone.

They don't get a say - They get their money no matter what, but they don't need to agree to be delisted.

 

[Jen2310]

Jen2310 with 36 on the senior list, we should get 2 more picks in the national draft correct ?

30 + 2 recruits + membrey = 32. 3 in the draft. 35 players. Probably means we can pick up one more player in DFA or taje 4 in the draft.
Given if we do re-rookie ash and markov, we are at 6 rookies

 

[LuckyLee]

Having lost Noble's relentless run-and-carry from the back half, I'm surprised that we've axed Markov, who is the most like-for-like replacement.