Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 16

[Grave Danger]

 

[Macca19]

What's he done now?

His girlfriend put a post on her instagram that he beat her up, complete with a pic of her with bruises/scratches on her face. Its been taken down now though

 

[Sleezy]

His girlfriend put a post on her instagram that he beat her up, complete with a pic of her with bruises/scratches on her face. Its been taken down now though

Ooof, well i hope it's not true for her sake. And if it is, throw the book.

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

Them kids can't afford 75k

 

[Smithy7]

Them kids can't afford 75k

They wont have to pay ... Richmond have to pay the fine. Players assoc will come down hard on Richmond.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

It's old news but I only heard about it today. The sanfl women's league best and fairest was awarded as a tie a few days after the initial count. Apparently the umpires gave the wrong player bog votes in one game and realised their mistake when votes were awarded. Signed a stat dec and changed the votes.

Reported they confused one player in long sleeves wearing 50 with player in long sleeves wearing 20. You would think after said player had a league record 42 possessions they would know who she was.

Just in case you thought there was any danger of them being a professional organisation.

Hatchard and Martin named 2020 SANFLW Best and Fairest Award winners - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[OneGreatClub]

His girlfriend put a post on her instagram that he beat her up, complete with a pic of her with bruises/scratches on her face. Its been taken down now though

 

[Fizzler]

lol old mate Stephen cRowe on 5AA after the Crows historic win:

"Port will always have 119, and they were really hoping Crows would get 0-17, now they don't and never will."

Forget that you didn't win a game in over a year.

They're impossible to reason with.

How is this a remark from a professional in his field? The term professional used extremely lightly here. But my goodness he sounds so bitter and childish.

 

[Grave Danger]

 

[Schulzenfest]

Should be sacked immediately if true, but that's still an 'if' at this stage. There's very clearly something very weird about that relationship.

 

[Boxx]

They wont have to pay ... Richmond have to pay the fine. Players assoc will come down hard on Richmond.

AFAIK, there isn’t actually any real fine to pay... it just comes off of the soft cap next season.

 

[TheFVK]

Had youtube recommend this to me. Watched in full, great great memories.

 

[Malibu#27]

AFAIK, there isn’t actually any real fine to pay... it just comes off of the soft cap next season.

Not how I understand it. I understood the fine gets paid and counted against next years soft cap.

 

[Boxx]

Not how I understand it. I understood the fine gets paid and counted against next years soft cap.

That’s not how Chris Davies explained it with the Houston/ Ladhams sanction.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

There is a fine to pay and the amount comes off the soft cap allowable total.

The AFLPA wouldn't be fighting an imaginary fine levied against the players.

 

[TeeKray]

For all of the virtue signalling around Indigenous people, racism, etc, there's a really ugly side to the AFL and the media when it comes to reporting certain issues.

We saw it with our own SPP in his early days at the club. We've seen it this week with Sydney Stack and Elijah Taylor. Piling onto young, immature Indigenous teenagers/early 20s who have had very different lives and upbringings to Tom Morris, Tom Browne and the rest of the Brighton Grammar Toms that proliferate the football media and increasingly the AFL playing ranks.

Clearly this is NOT to excuse the behaviour. But maybe just give some consideration to the growth process these players need to go through when they come into the system and actually live your supposed cultural awareness rather than just virtue signalling when it suits you to make yourself look and feel good.

 

[Boxx]

For all of the virtue signalling around Indigenous people, racism, etc, there's a really ugly side to the AFL and the media when it comes to reporting certain issues.

We saw it with our own SPP in his early days at the club. We've seen it this week with Sydney Stack and Elijah Taylor. Piling onto young, immature Indigenous teenagers/early 20s who have had very different lives and upbringings to Tom Morris, Tom Browne and the rest of the Brighton Grammar Toms that proliferate the football media and increasingly the AFL playing ranks.

Clearly this is NOT to excuse the behaviour. But maybe just give some consideration to the growth process these players need to go through when they come into the system and actually live your supposed cultural awareness rather than just virtue signalling when it suits you to make yourself look and feel good.

Nah, IF Elijah has in fact done that to that young lady - he can get ****ed!
He doesn’t deserve ANY consideration whatsoever!
His alleged assault cannot and absolutely should not be included in the same conversation as the other 2 incidents.
Being a piece of shit has nothing to do with being a young aboriginal man!

 

[TeeKray]

Being a piece of sh*t has nothing to do with being a young aboriginal man!

Then the high rates of DV among Aboriginals obviously just means Aboriginals are bigger pieces of shit than white people?

Thanks for playing, point proven.

 

[Sleezy]

Then the high rates of DV among Aboriginals obviously just means Aboriginals are bigger pieces of sh*t than white people?

Thanks for playing, point proven.

The different causal/contributing factors that lead up to Domestic Violence in different communities don't make it more or less acceptable, or the perpetrators more or less culpable for their actions.

They may mean that different prevention practices, support services, punishments may be required depending on the circumstances though.

 

[Boxx]

Then the high rates of DV among Aboriginals obviously just means Aboriginals are bigger pieces of sh*t than white people?

Thanks for playing, point proven.

Good take on the massive issue of domestic violence that is within ALL parts of society champ!

As I said, IF Elijah did what he is accused of - the HE is a piece of shit!

I would have the same opinion of Travis Boak if he done the same thing!

Domestic violence is certainly not exclusive to the aboriginal community, in fact - domestic violence within the “white” community is seldom reported and all to often kept behind closed doors...

Thanks for playing the stereo typical white make role in the argument though! You’ve done it brilliantly!

 

[backtozero]

For all of the virtue signalling around Indigenous people, racism, etc, there's a really ugly side to the AFL and the media when it comes to reporting certain issues.

We saw it with our own SPP in his early days at the club. We've seen it this week with Sydney Stack and Elijah Taylor. Piling onto young, immature Indigenous teenagers/early 20s who have had very different lives and upbringings to Tom Morris, Tom Browne and the rest of the Brighton Grammar Toms that proliferate the football media and increasingly the AFL playing ranks.

Clearly this is NOT to excuse the behaviour. But maybe just give some consideration to the growth process these players need to go through when they come into the system and actually live your supposed cultural awareness rather than just virtue signalling when it suits you to make yourself look and feel good.

All different situations that need to be treated differently.

Bashing your girlfriend isn't the same thing as getting a kebab in the midst of a pandemic.

When it comes to the former, how exactly would you treat the situation?

 

[JohnHinckleyJr]

I'm sure a few boys in my club would like to take Elijah for ride hate women bashing campaigners

 

[bomberclifford]

Good take on the massive issue of domestic violence that is within ALL parts of society champ!

As I said, IF Elijah did what he is accused of - the HE is a piece of sh*t!

I would have the same opinion of Travis Boak if he done the same thing!

Domestic violence is certainly not exclusive to the aboriginal community, in fact - domestic violence within the “white” community is seldom reported and all to often kept behind closed doors...

Thanks for playing the stereo typical white make role in the argument though! You’ve done it brilliantly!

I may be wrong but I think you’ll find that Teekray agrees with you. His original comment was about the difference in how the AFL media responds depending on the background of the (alleged) perpetrator.

 

[Boxx]

I may be wrong but I think you’ll find that Teekray agrees with you. His original comment was the difference in how the AFL media responds depending on the background of the (alleged) perpetrator.

I think we are arguing in the same side as well in general with how young aboriginal lads get treated... BUT, my point is - Elijah is a piece of shit (if he is guilty of the allegations) and in his case, he deserves all the judgment that comes his way from any angle! As does anyone that does that to their partner - no matter their race, religion, sex or upbringing!

 

[TeeKray]

The two biggest stories in the (all white) football media at the moment involve sticking the boots into a 19 year old Indigenous man and a 20 year old Indigenous man who have both been banned by the AFL for the season.

Just step back and have a think about how that looks and feels for a moment.