Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 17

[TeeKray]

Here's what's happened.

After all of the noise about CTE, we start off with wanting to introduce a concussion substitute for 'health and safety' reasons. The strong implication here is that doctors are compromised and may be influenced by players/coaches into not diagnosing concussion when it occurs. This looks bad. So we try to justify it based on 'fairness' to teams who have players ruled out through concussion. We then realise that concussion is no different from any other injury when it comes to leaving teams a man down. So we create a broad based injury substitute. And now all of a sudden we have a rule that has gone so far away from what it was originally thought of as being that it's totally unjustifiable on any level.

What a laugh. At least they didn't give in to Clarkson's so obviously self interested under 21 substitute rule that he wanted purely because he's got a young team for the first time in 15 years.

 

[Steve Dore]

The day before the season starts the AFL reintroduce the substitute rule which could have a big influence on some teams' game plans. Plans they have spent the last three months perfecting. What a complete joke delivered by the arseclowns at AFL House. Their comedic timing is impeccable.

 

[tribey]

Look at how many interstate players we have on our list and none of them are homesick

Call me crazy, but Team For All South Australians™, Pride Of South Australia™ , #WEARESA, the ill-fated attempt to wear the SOO guernsey, and things like putting up the SA flag in the rooms while playing interstate (not sure if this is still a thing tbh) made a lot of sense in the 90’s and early 00’s when the vast majority of their players were locals.

But how is any of that shtick in any way relevant to Jake Lever, Jack Gunston, Charlie Cameron, Kurt Tippett, Jarryd Lyons, Fischer McAsey and Brad Crouch?

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

There's a mandatory 12 day out rule if you're medically subbed which closes a lot of exploits.

The only real issue is that you can now play a 50/50 player and just sub him out if it doesn't work.

It's sort of good for us in the sense that we can now play Burton in every game without worry of him getting injured after attempting a kick

 

[Steve Dore]

There's a mandatory 12 day out rule if you're medically subbed which closes a lot of exploits.

The only real issue is that you can now play a 50/50 player and just sub him out if it doesn't work.

It's sort of good for us in the sense that we can now play Burton in every game without worry of him getting injured after attempting a kick

The way I read it the 12 day rule only applies to a concussion. If a player has hamstring tightness which the doctor rules could be a 12 day injury there is nothing to stop them from making a faster than expected recovery and playing the following round.

"To be eligible for a medical substitution, the club doctor must decide that an injured player will be unable to play a game in the next 12 days. Concussed players must already sit out a mandatory 12-day recovery period under new protocols introduced by the AFL for the 2021 season."

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

The way I read it the 12 day rule only applies to a concussion. If a player has hamstring tightness which the doctor rules could be a 12 day injury there is nothing to stop them from making a faster than expected recovery and playing the following round.

"To be eligible for a medical substitution, the club doctor must decide that an injured player will be unable to play a game in the next 12 days. Concussed players must already sit out a mandatory 12-day recovery period under new protocols introduced by the AFL for the 2021 season."

Hmm I'm reading this as any medical sub = you're out for the next 12 days.

 

[Interstater]

4. The Medical Substitute Player will be permitted to participate in another match in another competition (e.g. a State League competition) in the equivalent round regardless of whether they are activated during the AFL match.

So Bergman could play for the maggies on the Saturday and be the ME for the AFL side on the Sunday.

Would we do that or would we ask the player to sit out the maggies game? Or maybe play only 3 quarters.

Interesting times.

 

[Steve Dore]

Hmm I'm reading this as any medical sub = you're out for the next 12 days.

Having read it again I'm not sure, it isn't very clear.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The way I read it the 12 day rule only applies to a concussion. If a player has hamstring tightness which the doctor rules could be a 12 day injury there is nothing to stop them from making a faster than expected recovery and playing the following round.

"To be eligible for a medical substitution, the club doctor must decide that an injured player will be unable to play a game in the next 12 days. Concussed players must already sit out a mandatory 12-day recovery period under new protocols introduced by the AFL for the 2021 season."

There's going to be a lot of malpractice happening

 

[tribey]

Hmm I'm reading this as any medical sub = you're out for the next 12 days.

From what I can gather, concussion = mandatory 12 days

Medical = doctor has to reasonably surmise the player may be out for at least 12 days, but subsequent diagnosis can counter that.

ie “Yeah I think it’s a 12-day hammy, sub him”, but if the midweek scans show he’s fine, he can play the next week.

 

[JimmyBC]

Call me crazy, but Team For All South Australians™, Pride Of South Australia™ , #WEARESA, the ill-fated attempt to wear the SOO guernsey, and things like putting up the SA flag in the rooms while playing interstate (not sure if this is still a thing tbh) made a lot of sense in the 90’s and early 00’s when the vast majority of their players were locals.

But how is any of that shtick in any way relevant to Jake Lever, Jack Gunston, Charlie Cameron, Kurt Tippett, Jarryd Lyons, Fischer McAsey and Brad Crouch?

Victims of their infancy the day they have true clubland types in Admin they may shed it but I hope they keep on it's good for us.

 

[Tibbs]

Coach sends a message out that your off, we need to bring in the sub

Player limps to the bench

Doctor, independent or otherwise, asks the player what's wrong

Player says I felt a twinge in my hammy

Doctor signs off on injury

Sub comes on and tears it up

System gamed

What a joke

I would have LOVED that to happen when Burton got injured in the pre-lim!

What goes around, comes around.

It benefits us as much as the oppo

 

[Memphis]

Wait the crows have a culture?

 

[Alberton Proud]

Wait the crows have a culture?

Yes, but only between Ted's toes

 

[El_Scorcho]

I hate this sub rule so much.

I could begrudgingly deal with a concussion sub where the concussed player had to sit out the following week.

Now it's just any injury you like and you don't have to miss the following week which will absolutely be taken advantage of. In fact, we should be taking advantage of it because if we don't we'll be competing against teams that will.

How they can drop this a week before round 1 is staggering.

 

[dav3]

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[OneGreatClub]

Wait the crows have a culture?

Probably a typo

 

[gbear]

What? Surely not even the most one-eyed Crows fans could think that!?

You would think so, but there are some seriously deluded posters on their biard!

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Yeah I wouldn't go so far as to say that Adelaide can't win, but who's gonna stop Hawkins and Cameron with Talia out?

Adelaide can't win.

On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Papa G]

McGuire back on Footy Classified tonight. Yuck. Just die campaigner.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Coach sends a message out that your off, we need to bring in the sub

Player limps to the bench

Doctor, independent or otherwise, asks the player what's wrong

Player says I felt a twinge in my hammy

Doctor signs off on injury

Sub comes on and tears it up

System gamed

What a joke

Migraine is always the best untestable excuse.

On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[edgie]

Can't wait to see Joel Selwood running around looking like Rocky in the 15th round thinking it's 2011 while Geelong hold off the sub for a young rookie that's had 3 kicks and 'needs a rest'.

 

[Grave Danger]

I hate this sub rule so much.

I could begrudgingly deal with a concussion sub where the concussed player had to sit out the following week.

Now it's just any injury you like and you don't have to miss the following week which will absolutely be taken advantage of. In fact, we should be taking advantage of it because if we don't we'll be competing against teams that will.

How they can drop this a week before round 1 is staggering.

 

[edgie]

The easiest thing to do would be to have injury forced interchange not count, and for those, enforce a 15m off the ground policy in case it's just a corky or something.