Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 17

[Holden Hillbilly]

Closest and most exciting round 1 ever so far.

 

[AdamMarrett]

I still have a problem with head clashes leading to suspensions.

Whilst I agree with you there, if they let Dangerfield off it sets a dangerous precedent, and it validates the theory they protect the big name players. Cause I couldn't see some 30 game player from the Suns getting off the same thing.

Dangerfield chose to bump, even if it was a fair bump it would've been a free kick down field I'd have thought as the ball was gone from Kelly by the time Dangerfield got him.

Didn't Hartlett get 2 or 3 weeks a few years for basically the same type of situation?

 

[JimmyBC]

I would need to look at it again, but I don’t remember the Crow player changing his movement. It would have been a bad-executed bump. If that’s the case, then, I could understand a suspension.

There was nothing malicious about it if a Port player was suspended before a GF for an incident like that we'd all be spewing, however it falls under the ridiculous if you choose to bump nonsense the AFL are driving.

 

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[GremioPower]

There was nothing malicious about it if a Port player was suspended before a GF for an incident like that we'd all be spewing, however it falls under the ridiculous if you choose to bump nonsense the AFL are driving.

I didn’t say it had been malicious. I’ve said it could have been a bad bump.

Danger could have avoided the head collision, but failed. It is different than, for instance, going to the body, but the opposing player ducks and gets hit on the head.

 

[Harro59]

6/6 in my tips so far.




Not in a tipping comp and doing my tips as each game ends so pretty much on track for a perfect round.

Wow really, I guess the crows at home is not that far fetched, but Sydney of Brisbane in Brisbane?

Huge call, but well done to you.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

The thing about danger is its not whether that should rub someone out or not.

Its whether there is a clear precedent set that when you choose to bump, make contact with the head, and do damage, you miss games. Period.

Most players would get 3 for it without question.

 

[FishingRick04]

So the Golden Boy, hey.

Good old elbows, some allowed to protect themselves, some just get rubbed out

 

[PowerBaz]

Good old elbows, some allowed to protect themselves, some just get rubbed out

He meant to hurt him and he did - just clipped his head too...

 

[Capital Power]

Thought at the time it was a fair bump, but the outcome might see a suspension. It seems the commentators, apart from Ricciuto, thought there wasn't anything warranting weeks, so yeah, no conflict of interest there.

The MRO has come down hard on Port players with bumps, be interesting to see if one of the golden boys gets the same treatment.

 

[FishingRick04]

Thought at the time it was a fair bump, but the outcome might see a suspension. It seems the commentators, apart from Ricciuto, thought there wasn't anything warranting weeks, so yeah, no conflict of interest there.

The MRO has come down hard on Port players with bumps, be interesting to see if one of the golden boys gets the same treatment.

the AFL could be named COI conflict of interest, it’s in every decision

 

[PJ Power]

If Butters got a week at the end of last year, then that’s what Dangerfield should get.....oh wait, Butters got two. Then so should he.

 

[Dalfino]

If you elect to bump you are responsible for the outcome. It should be as clear as day, no room for intepretation, no favouring of the big names.

Dangerfield elected to bump Kelly, ran past the ball to do so, and it resulted in Kelly getting knocked out despite the initial legality of the bump. If a Port player got KO'd in those circumstances and missed games with concussion I'd want whoever elected to bump to be responsible for that choice.

 

[jakey]

This player responsibility for outcome thing is the AFL attempting to transfer its legal liability for head injury. It's weak. The only fair way to run a tribunal is based on the intent and risk of an action. If the rules aren't keeping people safe, change the rules, don't evade responsibility for the outcome.

 

[TeeKray]

As well as a Port win tomorrow (obviously), I'd love to see the Suns break their duck in Perth. Impossible? Many said the same thing about Adelaide beating Geelong.

Lol. Have the Gold Coast SUNS actually won any game ever since that clown show at Footy Park a decade ago? Even their women's team is an uncompetitive rabble.

 

[It Just Is]

I still have a problem with head clashes leading to suspensions.

While I agree, Dangerfield wasn’t a whiplash type incident. He’s on the worse end of the head clash spectrum.

 

[Waspy79]

I agree with whoever said Hoff would have been a useful sub. **** the AFL and its amateur approach to everything.

 

[Waspy79]

I still have a problem with head clashes leading to suspensions.

Headbutt

 

[Waspy79]

There was nothing malicious about it if a Port player was suspended before a GF for an incident like that we'd all be spewing, however it falls under the ridiculous if you choose to bump nonsense the AFL are driving.

Tell your kids it’s nonsense when they develop CTE.

 

[Waspy79]

The thing about danger is its not whether that should rub someone out or not.

Its whether there is a clear precedent set that when you choose to bump, make contact with the head, and do damage, you miss games. Period.

Most players would get 3 for it without question.

Precedent has nothing to do with it.

 

[philreich]

Lol. Have the Gold Coast SUNS actually won any game ever since that clown show at Footy Park a decade ago? Even their women's team is an uncompetitive rabble.

They actually beat the Eagles early last year. I realise the odds of a repeat are small, but dreams cost nothing .

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Dangerfield is going straight to the tribunal.

A concussion is a severe impact. Kelly didnt take any further part in the game. If that isnt a severe impact, then I dont know what the **** is.

It wasn't an unavoidable collision, Dangerfield had an alternative.

 

[Doctor Feel]

This is gonna be a bit of a landmark case imo.

 

[Waspy79]

Dangerfield is going straight to the tribunal.

A concussion is a severe impact. Kelly didnt take any further part in the game. If that isnt a severe impact, then I dont know what the fu** is.

It wasn't an unavoidable collision, Dangerfield had an alternative.

I think the league will want this resolved via the matrix and not at the Tribunal. It will happen again.

 

[TeeKray]

This is gonna be a bit of a landmark case imo.

Why? Head clashes as a result of a player choosing to bump have been straight up and down suspensions for years now.