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[finbarr]

Phil Walsh is going to make or break Dangerfield. He is about to get some serious home truths about the limitations of his game, his ego and his selfishness.

It is going to be fascinating to see whether his ego can handle it. He could be scary good if he can.

I have it on very good authority Walsh doesn't rate Dangerfiled's game very highly. Considers him a very good player when the ball is within 5 metres, but thinks his work off the ball is second rate. When playing the crows this year he put more planning into stopping players like Sloane.

 

[finbarr]

Cooney offered for trade - any interest here?

Who in their right mind would trade for an unrestricted free agent in his final years?

 

[noddy]

I believe that Port has totally owned the Crows and this embarrassing disaster just highlights it all. They are in a lot of trouble.

Can you elaborate?

 

[Seanybruz]

Carlton are apparently looking to get Cooney, Jones & a pick in the 50's for their 2nd rounder.

 

[chiwigi]

Carlton are apparently looking to get Cooney, Jones & pick 52 for their pick in the 20's.

As he said, who in their RIGHT mind.

 

[western royboy]

Can you elaborate?

With respect - I don't think Phil Walsh will make it as a senior coach. I'm not confident in CEO's who don't have a football background.

The four pillars of a sound club are the 4 C's

Chairman
CEO
Coach
Captain

I think at the moment you would have big question marks against the four of them.

 

[FishingRick04]

I heard a brief snippet of Walsh on the radio and he didn't seem as coherent as Hinkley, dare I say a poor man's Hinkley?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

With respect - I don't think Phil Walsh will make it as a senior coach. I'm not confident in CEO's who don't have a football background.

The four pillars of a sound club are the 4 C's

Chairman
CEO
Coach
Captain

I think at the moment you would have big question marks against the four of them.

Bit early to call on two of them but the other two are shot.

 

[Pappagallo]

Apparently KT releasing a statement to our members after Walsh's signing was announced was a sign of arrogance.

Sorry I must've missed the part where KT called us customers and agitators.

 

[Janus]

With respect - I don't think Phil Walsh will make it as a senior coach. I'm not confident in CEO's who don't have a football background.

The four pillars of a sound club are the 4 C's

Chairman
CEO
Coach
Captain

I think at the moment you would have big question marks against the four of them.

I'm with you WR. Chapman is a bumbling buffoon, Fagan is an outsider who is obviously just a puppet (which begs the question 'Why bother'?), Walsh has never coached a team in his life, much less to any success - there's more to being a senior coach than just gameday tactics - and Van Berlo/Dangerfield/Sloane each have severe limitations as a captain.

Compare to Port:

Koch - strong leadership, clear vision, doesn't get involved with the football side of things.
Thomas - best in the business, in lockstep with Koch and Hinkley as to achieving the vision for the club.
Hinkley - Walsh is described as a 'gameday genius'. Well, Hinkley is a football genius all the time. The players love him and he loves his 'boys'.
Boak - equal best captain in the competition with Hodge. When he leads, the rest of the team follows.

 

[western royboy]

BigFooty meet up shirt?

I will drive over just "stick it up him"

 

[chiwigi]

I heard a brief snippet of Walsh on the radio and he didn't seem as coherent as Hinkley, dare I say a poor man's Hinkley?

Which is what they bought, they are hoping he can become more Hinkley like.

 

[Power Girl]

I read somewhere that Walsh is going to ring every player and ask them where their season went wrong. Two things jumped to mind. Firstly it sounded Kenish and i wondered if he will keep up the communication individually all season or is this a one off? secondly i thought well he's given the players a heads up as it sounds like a test to me - give the wrong answer and a line goes through your name.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

I have it on very good authority Walsh doesn't rate Dangerfiled's game very highly. Considers him a very good player when the ball is within 5 metres, but thinks his work off the ball is second rate. When playing the crows this year he put more planning into stopping players like Sloane.

It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of clubs took the same approach. Have only every really seen him tagged once - against Geelong earlier this year.

 

[PJ Power]

I have it on very good authority Walsh doesn't rate Dangerfiled's game very highly. Considers him a very good player when the ball is within 5 metres, but thinks his work off the ball is second rate. When playing the crows this year he put more planning into stopping players like Sloane.

Interesting. Some years ago I heard from a very close contact of Phil's that he didn't rate Steve Salopek at all, and thought he was mentally weak.
Salopek was very complimentary of Walsh via Twitter this week.

 

[noddy]

With respect - I don't think Phil Walsh will make it as a senior coach. I'm not confident in CEO's who don't have a football background.

The four pillars of a sound club are the 4 C's

Chairman
CEO
Coach
Captain

I think at the moment you would have big question marks against the four of them.

Time will tell.

 

[Seanybruz]

With respect - I don't think Phil Walsh will make it as a senior coach. I'm not confident in CEO's who don't have a football background.

The four pillars of a sound club are the 4 C's

Chairman
CEO
Coach
Captain

I think at the moment you would have big question marks against the four of them.

I think the coach was a good appointment compared to what they could've ended up with but agree with your question marks on the other 3 especially the captain & chairman.

Roo on the board was a tick because he's come in armed with a blank cheque book & is so far doing his best to tear that place down & rebuild, the next step for them will be to sack Bicks & Campo who aren't much chop.

I can see Walsh already has an idea of who he wants on his panel 2/3 of Lade, Glass & Worsfold would be upgrades on what they currently have in place.

 

[noddy]

I'm with you WR. Chapman is a bumbling buffoon, Fagan is an outsider who is obviously just a puppet (which begs the question 'Why bother'?), Walsh has never coached a team in his life, much less to any success - there's more to being a senior coach than just gameday tactics - and Van Berlo/Dangerfield/Sloane each have severe limitations as a captain.

Compare to Port:

Koch - strong leadership, clear vision, doesn't get involved with the football side of things.
Thomas - best in the business, in lockstep with Koch and Hinkley as to achieving the vision for the club.
Hinkley - Walsh is described as a 'gameday genius'. Well, Hinkley is a football genius all the time. The players love him and he loves his 'boys'.
Boak - equal best captain in the competition with Hodge. When he leads, the rest of the team follows.

You are as predictable as always Janus but I somewhat agree with you on Chapman.

 

[*PAF]

Roo is trying to change things. Time will tell if he is up to the job but good on him for going down that path.

Fagan has good history. Time will tell if he can bring that to the AFL.

Walsh has very solid foundations. Time will tell if he has what it takes to be the senior coach.

Chapman would be on borrowed time as once a total clean out starts it doesn't usually stop until all the old players are moved on.

 

[Spadge]

The media are up and about but so are crowie supporters.

I have a couple of mates that are already talking about top 4 next season. Walsh is the new Hinkley
They seem to forget that Alan Richardson was Hinkleys right hand man for a season too and we all know how that turned out.

 

[mic59]

Nathan Brown reckons Allan Christensen is worth a top 10 pick. He must have been smoking the same stuff that the Essendon and Collingwood trade officials have been smoking.

 

[Young Gun #6]

Apparently Giles, Newton and Pick 15 would be unders for Christiansen...

 

[FallingLiefs]

Christensen is only behind Duncan for Geelong's junior brigade. you could argue he's better than Duncan. with how young he is i think he's worth a fair bit.

 

[Papa G]

Roo is trying to change things. Time will tell if he is up to the job but good on him for going down that path.

Fagan has good history. Time will tell if he can bring that to the AFL.

Walsh has very solid foundations. Time will tell if he has what it takes to be the senior coach.

Chapman would be on borrowed time as once a total clean out starts it doesn't usually stop until all the old players are moved on.

It is a very big 12 months for the Clowns. The Clangerfield issue will hang over the club for a while. Chapman to me seems like a dead duck and Roo has him in the gun. I think they are really trying to change things up. Seriously, it would have unimaginable 12 months ago that they'd sack their coach, then hire a untried Victorian and Port Adelaide coach. The real ballsy move for the Crows that would give them some short term pain but long term gain, is trade FIGJAM, get a couple of very high draft picks, recruit in some talent, particularly in the backline with the salary cap space they've opened up and give Sloane the captaincy. Doubt they would go down this path as their largely stupid supporter base would lose the plot, and I think they wouldn't want Port to gain further ground on them both on and off the field, but I reckon this strategy would stand them in very good stead in 2-3 years time. I think they will head for mid table mediocrity though.

 

[Dylan8]

Yeah Christensen is a gun and how old, 22-23?