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[John Who]

Stewart Loewe

Official AFL Website of the St Kilda Football Club

www.saints.com.au

Stewart Loewe​

Jan 10, 2020, 9:01am

Born	23 May, 1968
Height	194cm
Weight	108kg
Debut	24 May, 1986 v Sydney at Moorabbin Oval
Seasons	1986-2002
Games	321
Goals	594

Very few could reel in a contested mark like the great Stewart ‘Buckets’ Loewe. The No. 23 held the record for taking the most marks in the history of the game, before the remarkable feat was overtaken by his heir apparent, Nick Riewoldt.
But his qualities extended beyond just aerial brilliance, with his work ethic and commitment to fitness legendary. Loewe was not a natural footballer as a youngster, but worked so hard on his game to utilise his physical attributes – notably his giant hands – to the utmost effect. Playing in the position acknowledged as the hardest on the field, he achieved a consistency of performance and durability at centre-half forward that was the lynchpin of St Kilda sides for over 15 years.
With Tony Lockett he formed a "twin towers" attack that stretched every backline in the competition. After Lockett departed to Sydney, Loewe assumed the mantle of No. 1 forward, falling just short of kicking 100 goals in a season at full-forward in 1996. Loewe opted to stay with St Kilda when vigorously chased by Fremantle and was able to take part, as joint-captain, in a Grand Final team in 1997.
By the end of his career, ‘Buckets’ had booted 594 goals across 321 games and earned two All Australian selections and a place in St Kilda’s Team of the Century.

Again, I never argued he wasn’t elite in marking. But as a forward, was he as consistent as a Brown, Tredrea or Pavlich?

 

[cleanhands]

Again, I never argued he wasn’t elite in marking. But as a forward, was he as consistent as a Brown, Tredrea or Pavlich?

The conversation was on marking

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Again, I never argued he wasn’t elite in marking. But as a forward, was he as consistent as a Brown, Tredrea or Pavlich?

Loewe was a better mark than Brown, Tredrea & Pavlich.

Did you not watch him play?

Was one of the best marking players of all time.

 

[Multiballz]

It’s generally a sign why they run under the footy,and I don’t dislike TT

He also drops his head and takes his eyes off of the ball at point of impact.
Not always, but too often to not notice it.

Definitely conscious of others, even when they arent there at times.

 

[Bearded Clam]

And aligns his body with the ball, he needs to improve that also not drift to the side of packs

He definitely needs to work on a fair few things..

Most of all getting confidence in his body.. play like tarzan not jane.

But at the end of the day he’s still very young for a KPF.

We wont see TT’s best until he’s 26 years old through to about 32/33 years of age. Prime years for a KPF.

He’s only 21.

I’m content with his progress so far.. as long as he continues on a steady upward trajectory.. even though I’d love to see him crash into more packs whilst taking towering marks over all those around him in said packs..

 

[cleanhands]

He definitely needs to work on a fair few things..

Most of all getting confidence in his body.. play like tarzan not jane.

But at the end of the day he’s still very young for a KPF.

We wont see TT’s best until he’s 26 years old through to about 32/33 years of age. Prime years for a KPF.

He’s only 21.

I’m content with his progress so far.. as long as he continues on a steady upward trajectory.. even though I’d love to see him crash into more packs whilst taking towering marks over all those around him in said packs..

I have previously said he is the one player that can make the biggest difference to this side

 

[cleanhands]

Where’s FullyBigKPro he’s usually hanging around that type of feast

 

[Southerntakeover]

He definitely needs to work on a fair few things..

Most of all getting confidence in his body.. play like tarzan not jane.

But at the end of the day he’s still very young for a KPF.

We wont see TT’s best until he’s 26 years old through to about 32/33 years of age. Prime years for a KPF.

He’s only 21.

I’m content with his progress so far.. as long as he continues on a steady upward trajectory.. even though I’d love to see him crash into more packs whilst taking towering marks over all those around him in said packs..

He's kicked 5 more than once in his first few seasons playing as a key position forward. People consistently fail to understand what are reasonable expectations for young key position players.

You're just looking for signs, not consistent dominance. He's shown them. He's a full decade off when key position players peak. He'll be good before then, but people need to understand context.

 

[rabidcrow]

He's kicked 5 more than once in his first few seasons playing as a key position forward. People consistently fail to understand what are reasonable expectations for young key position players.

You're just looking for signs, not consistent dominance. He's shown them. He's a full decade off when key position players peak. He'll be good before then, but people need to understand context.

The most frustrating thing on this board - people talking about young players like they should be playing like they are peak of their career


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[cleanhands]

The most frustrating thing on this board - people talking about young players like they should be playing like they are peak of their career


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Or can see ways to improve

 

[MRB37]

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Don't mention Collective Mind.

 

[MRB37]

Don't mention Collective Mind.

They actually got a qualified psychologist this time around. Rosanna Stanimirovic, she previously worked at GWS for 6 years, also worked at the AIS, Australian Sailing and Sports New Zealand.

 

[Crows I Am]

Impressive feast for the boys there.

 

[WheresGroomgone]

Extra support?..

What extra support did the Dees give him?..

They gave him an ultimatum very publicly through the media basically putting it out there that they were the innocent party and he was the devils child!.

If we are all to believe the media rumours about Oliver then shouldnt we also believe the rumours about the coach and some of the leadership team at the dees?.. if so, the “guidance” and “support” he is getting is probably questionable.

Also..

Why does everyone think they can always help these lads?..

You can provide all the guidance, support and advice you want but ultimately the only one that can bring any change in any persons life is the1mselves.
They have got to want to change.

But none of this is the point I am trying to make.

The point I am making is that referring to the lad as “Off the rails” is a little bit over the top ffs.

Now if he starts running around getting in fights or sexually assaulting people or stealing cars or breaking and entering then yes.. I’d be saying he’s “off the rails” and out of control..

All we’ve seen so far is the actions of a lad that just needs to pull his fxxkn head in a bit.

Driving when you’ve been directed by a doctor not to is the actions of a selfish moron… but its not enough to say its the actions of someone who’s completely “off the rails”..

Why does everyone think they can always help these lads?..

You can provide all the guidance, support and advice you want but ultimately the only one that can bring any change in any persons life is themselves.
They have got to want to change.

But none of this is the point I am trying to make.

and to think ”some people” we’re highly critical of the club‘s dealing with Stengle situation and stated they didn’t do anywhere near enough…

 

[Bearded Clam]

Agreed, Cleanhand's obsession with negative commentary of Thilthorpe has become almost like a childish troll act.

What?..

Cleanhands comments on TT are fair and reasonable.

He’s simply stated all along that TT has a few areas in need of improvement.

I’m pretty sure 9 out if every 10 people you ask would say the very same thing..

 

[skam85]

Stewart Loewe

Official AFL Website of the St Kilda Football Club

www.saints.com.au

Stewart Loewe​

Jan 10, 2020, 9:01am

Born	23 May, 1968
Height	194cm
Weight	108kg
Debut	24 May, 1986 v Sydney at Moorabbin Oval
Seasons	1986-2002
Games	321
Goals	594

Very few could reel in a contested mark like the great Stewart ‘Buckets’ Loewe. The No. 23 held the record for taking the most marks in the history of the game, before the remarkable feat was overtaken by his heir apparent, Nick Riewoldt.
But his qualities extended beyond just aerial brilliance, with his work ethic and commitment to fitness legendary. Loewe was not a natural footballer as a youngster, but worked so hard on his game to utilise his physical attributes – notably his giant hands – to the utmost effect. Playing in the position acknowledged as the hardest on the field, he achieved a consistency of performance and durability at centre-half forward that was the lynchpin of St Kilda sides for over 15 years.
With Tony Lockett he formed a "twin towers" attack that stretched every backline in the competition. After Lockett departed to Sydney, Loewe assumed the mantle of No. 1 forward, falling just short of kicking 100 goals in a season at full-forward in 1996. Loewe opted to stay with St Kilda when vigorously chased by Fremantle and was able to take part, as joint-captain, in a Grand Final team in 1997.
By the end of his career, ‘Buckets’ had booted 594 goals across 321 games and earned two All Australian selections and a place in St Kilda’s Team of the Century.

Amazing what happens when you google past afl tables, isn't it?

 

[FullyBigKPro]

I approve of that feast the lads were having in that Soligo pic

 

[cleanhands]

He's kicked 5 more than once in his first few seasons playing as a key position forward. People consistently fail to understand what are reasonable expectations for young key position players.

You're just looking for signs, not consistent dominance. He's shown them. He's a full decade off when key position players peak. He'll be good before then, but people need to understand context.

No-one is looking for signs, it’s just what we see

 

[Jetwa5h]

Hopefully the extra strength he has been working on gives him the confidence to get the right positioning, including out bodying his opponent when needed.

I think were some mention him having stints down back is that when he drifts back whilst rucking he never runs under the ball reads the fall/drop well which enables his positioning to be excellent, I was at the Brisbane game at the Gabba he took some nice defensive marks from being in the right place, its like it only happens on the lead and or in the FWD line

 

[BRL121]

No-one is looking for signs, it’s just what we see

He was using a generic "you".

 

[Southerntakeover]

No-one is looking for signs, it’s just what we see

Customary missing of the point achieved

 

[cleanhands]

Customary missing of the point achieved

Ditto to my point re TT

 

[Southerntakeover]

Ditto to my point re TT

No, I was precisely responsive.

Of course a young key position player has improvements to make. Personally, I think trying to subtly brand him a coward without supporting it with any examples was over the top nonsense.

 

[Southerntakeover]

If you can't see Thilly has the one obvious facet of his game that he needs to work on to improve his game you're the one with the problem not Cleanhands. It seems clear Thilly was given an instruction to work on his physicality over the summer break which feeds into what Cleanhands sees as Thilly only real weakness in his game for such a big unit.

One of my favourite mutineer tropes is when you pretend to know the instructions players have been given.

If you're going to join a spurious claim that he "hears footsteps", don't claim the coaches as your backing.