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Mr MysteryGuest said:
he's probably thinks Sloane is a huge loss
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This is the conclusion I came to last night when thinking of our current injuries.

Our current injuries are listed as follows:

Jordon Butts (hamstring) test
Wayne Milera (hamstring) test
Jake Soligo (ankle) test
Mark Keane (concussion protocol)
Rory Sloane (eye) TBA
Nick Murray (knee) TBA
Harry Schoenberg (Achilles) TBA

Milera has had a bit of an interrupted PS from xmas onwards.
Soligo has only had a dodgy ankle for a couple of weeks after dominating PS
Butts has done majority of the PS
Keane has done a full PS for the first time
Sloane is not best 22
Murray is the one we will miss
Schoenberg is borderline best 22

So for round one we will have 39 of the 42 players available, with potentially one from the best 22 unavailable.

Note to Kingy - this took me less than five minutes of research!
 
Scorpus said:
It's crazy to me that these football "analysts" don't and aren't required to watch all 9 games every week

Some of the stuff they say shows they clearly don't actually watch the matches, or even highlights, or even just the news about each club

If I was working in the field I'd be watching every game and taking comprehensive notes including knowing best 22s and entire squads. The sport isn't even on for like 20 weeks in the year, that's more than enough time to be fully researched for round 1
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I would watch more football than 99% of them. They aren't AFL fans, they are fans of Victorian football.
 

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Scorpus said:
It's crazy to me that these football "analysts" don't and aren't required to watch all 9 games every week

Some of the stuff they say shows they clearly don't actually watch the matches, or even highlights, or even just the news about each club

If I was working in the field I'd be watching every game and taking comprehensive notes including knowing best 22s and entire squads. The sport isn't even on for like 20 weeks in the year, that's more than enough time to be fully researched for round 1
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Most footy journos are too busy becoming alcoholics.
 
www.afl.com.au

Swans-Lions clash pushed back to avoid extreme heat

The AAMI Community Series clash between Sydney and Brisbane will now be played as a night game
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Would have been nice to apply that policy for the round one game last year. IMO that compromised our whole season, starting 0-2 instead of the 2-0 I reckon it would have been if R1 had been played in normal conditions and the players weren't still recovering for R2, because Richmond were pretty ordinary at the start of the year.
 
Billy_01 said:
Kingy “they’ve got a lot of injuries, umm we all know who they are… yeah I just don’t think they’re good enough”. Amazing insight.

Meanwhile Sydney casually lose Parker and Mills and he has them in the 8 pushing 4.
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How long Parker and Mills missing for?

They have added Grundy and Adams
 
Billy_01 said:
Kingy “they’ve got a lot of injuries, umm we all know who they are… yeah I just don’t think they’re good enough”. Amazing insight.

Meanwhile Sydney casually lose Parker and Mills and he has them in the 8 pushing 4.
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I wonder if Kingy can make up his mind, a week ago we were going to push top 4
 

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Billy_01 said:
Kingy “they’ve got a lot of injuries, umm we all know who they are… yeah I just don’t think they’re good enough”. Amazing insight.

Meanwhile Sydney casually lose Parker and Mills and he has them in the 8 pushing 4.
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Just shows the lack of respect we have in the VIC centric AFL. And really we can’t complain - we have been poor to average for 6 years now.

Hopefully this year we earn respect back and start to be talked about like a Sydney or Collingwood


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rabidcrow said:
Just shows the lack of respect we have in the VIC centric AFL. And really we can’t complain - we have been poor to average for 6 years now.

Hopefully this year we earn respect back and start to be talked about like a Sydney or Collingwood


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I think it's more to do with catering to their local market
 
Trigger13 said:
How can anyone not get excited/optimistic when one of the youngest lists last season was the highest scoring team. Victorians simply don’t care. It’s the only logical answer.
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How can they when we're a team of no names, we're a team of no names because we aren't from victoria and we havent finished top 4 or 2 or won a premiership with our list so the vic media is never gonna pick up on us. Its a self fulfilling prophecy.

Regardless of the indicators that look good for us (and there are plenty) the vic centric media won't pay any attention. They'll hind-cast our success, there's no way they're going to forecast it.
 


Disappointed if he doesnt kicks 35-40 minimum this year

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How Adelaide Crows’ young gun Riley Thilthorpe compares to other tall forwards drafted early​

Some of the AFL’s great modern-day tall forwards took until their fourth year to emerge. Could Crow Riley Thilthorpe join them? We analysed the young gun’s trajectory versus other early picks.

4 min read
February 28, 2024 - 6:00AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/.../e1a0db6a32e8f8e444710e6d6c6d59fc#share-tools

Tall forwards sometimes take a little longer to develop.
Crows senior assistant Scott Burns said something akin to that familiar modern footy line when asked about Adelaide young gun Riley Thilthorpe on Friday night.
After kicking 18, eight and 18 goals in 46 games across his first three seasons, the Crows’ highest ever draft selection looks primed to make a big step this year.
The 202cm giant, who was picked at No. 2 in 2020, booted two majors in an imposing trial match performance against Port Adelaide, continuing a strong summer.
Burns has seen first-hand how tall forwards can take a few years to blossom.
The former Collingwood captain began his coaching journey at West Coast in 2009, the season Josh Kennedy began emerging as a future star.
Kennedy, whom Carlton drafted at pick 4 in 2005 before trading him to the Eagles in 2007 in the Chris Judd deal, had booted 18 goals from 29 games in his first three campaigns.
Riley Thilthorpe is entering his fourth AFL season. Picture: Adelaide Football Club

Riley Thilthorpe is entering his fourth AFL season. Picture: Adelaide Football Club
In 2009, he kicked 31 majors from 16 matches.
From there, Kennedy booted 41 and 59 over the next two years then never looked back, becoming an all-time West Coast great and the club’s leading goalkicker.
Richmond spearhead Tom Lynch followed a similar trajectory.
Lynch, taken by Gold Coast at pick 11 in 2010, booted 15, 12 and eight goals in his first three seasons at the Suns.
He added 46 in a breakout 2014 campaign, then 43 and 66.
It took longer for things to click for Carlton big man Harry McKay.
He had his first year ruined by back stress fractures and had not kicked more than 26 goals until his sixth season when he registered 58.
Of course, some modern-day tall forwards have quickly emerged as future stars.
Ben King (Gold Coast) slotted 47 goals in his third season, while brother Max (St Kilda) booted 38 that same campaign.
But there are others taken early who never reach 46 games or kick five goals in a match – the latter feat being one Thilthorpe achieved on debut against Hawthorn in Launceston in 2021.
Thilthorpe booted five again versus the Power in round 3 last year.
It was probably the personal high point of his season, which fell away late.
He kicked just 1.6 from his final six games.
Riley Thilthorpe, the Crows’ highest ever pick, with his family after being drafted in 2020. Picture: Matt Turner

Riley Thilthorpe, the Crows’ highest ever pick, with his family after being drafted in 2020. Picture: Matt Turner
Six months on, Thilthorpe, 21, appears re-energised and ready to shine in his fourth campaign, like Kennedy and Lynch all those years ago.
“He’s been very good all pre-season,” Burns said of the Crows’ highest ever draft pick.
“He’s slowly made inroads since he’s been here.
“I think we forget, he’s 202cm and sometimes they can take a little bit more time.
“The path he’s on and trajectory he’s on has been really promising throughout the pre-season going into the start of the season.”
Burns said experience had been a major driver of Thilthorpe’s progress.
“You go back through history and look at Joshy Kennedy and even McKay at Carlton, they’ve all taken a little bit of time to get going,” he said.
“It’s not easy for a big fella, especially as a key forward. “
While Thilthorpe’s goal output ranked him seventh at the Crows in 2023, he was second at the club – behind Taylor Walker – and 13th in the AFL for contested marks with 38.
The names ahead of him include captains, All-Australians, premiership players and veterans: Charlie Curnow, Max Gawn, Jacob Weitering, Darcy Moore, Noah Balta, McKay, Jesse Hogan, Joe Daniher, Charlie Ballard, Harris Andrews, Aaron Naughton and Walker.
Thirty-eight contested marks is also more than Kennedy, Roughead, Ben King, Daniher, Lynch, Roughead or Curnow took in any of their first three seasons.

In December, Thilthorpe told the Crows’ website he had focused on getting stronger in the gym over summer and was boxing up to twice a week.
“I feel I’m able to throw guys around a little bit more, which is really exciting for my game next year,” Thilthorpe said.
“I feel the work I’ve done in the strength space will really help with that consistency, being able to be stronger in the contest and clunk a few more grabs.”
There were signs of that against the Power on Friday in a promising sign for the season.
“I think you’ve got to remember when you were 18 and finished high school, then what you were when you finished uni – four years is a big time difference in terms of mentality and maturity,” Burns said.
“We all get bigger and stronger, even if we’re not involved in a footy club.
“When you’re here day in, day out and doing weights every day and they’re being more professional, they’re obviously going to put a little bit of size and strength on.
“He’s been able to do that and still maintain some pretty important running times.”

Thilthorpe’s contested marking also compares favourably to two of his fellow 2021 top-four selections: Western Bulldog Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (No. 1) and Sydney’s Logan McDonald (4).
Ugle-Hagan took 31 last season and McDonald grabbed 15, though they outshone Thilthorpe for goals with 35 and 32 respectively.
Thilthorpe may struggle to match their scoreboard output because of his stints in ruck.
Last season, he attended 16 per cent of centre bounces and that could increase this year.
Then again, if Walker retires at season’s end, Thilthorpe, who is contracted until the end of 2025, can become more of an attacking focal point.
Walker’s brilliant form over the past two years has meant Thilthorpe has not been the No. 1 option like some other young forwards early in their careers.
If Thilthorpe can follow a similar path this year to others who have taken a while to blossom, then the AFL’s highest scoring team of 2023 will become even more difficult to stop.

HOW THILTHORPE COMPARES TO 195CM+ FORWARDS DRAFTED EARLY​

Riley Thilthorpe
Debut: 14 games, 18 goals, 44 marks, 16 contested marks
Year two: 11 games, eight goals, 49 marks, 20 contested marks
Year three: 21 games, 18 goals, 74 marks, 38 contested marks
Josh Kennedy (Carlton/West Coast, pick 4, 2005)
Debut: Nine games, five goals, 32 marks, five contested marks
Year two: 13 games, six goals, 50 marks, seven contested marks
Year three: Seven games, seven goals, 46 marks, nine contested marks
Tom Lynch (Gold Coast/Richmond, pick 11, 2010)
Debut: 13 games, 15 goals, 53 marks, 28 contested marks
Year two: 17 games, 12 goals, 98 marks, 20 contested marks
Year three: Eight games, eight goals, 42 marks, 18 contested marks
Joe Daniher (Essendon/Brisbane, pick 10, 2012)
Debut: Five games, three goals, 27 marks, six contested marks
Year two: 21 games, 28 goals, 112 marks, 27 contested marks
Year three: 22 games, 34 goals, 111 marks, 35 contested marks
Harry McKay (Carlton, pick 10, 2015)
Debut: Did not play due to injury
Year two: Two games, three goals, seven marks, three contested marks
Year three: 13 games, 21 goals, 70 marks, 20 contested marks
Ben King (Gold Coast, pick 6, 2018)
Debut: 14 games, 17 goals, 48 marks, 13 contested marks
Year two: 17 games, 25 goals, 48 marks, 15 contested marks
Year three: 22 games, 47 goals, 90 marks, 24 contested marks
Max King (St Kilda, pick 4, 2018)
Debut: Did not play due to injury
Year two: 18 games, 22 goals, 57 marks, 30 contested marks
Year three: 20 games, 38 goals, 90 marks, 48 contested marks
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs, pick 1, 2020)
Debut: Five games, seven goals, 14 marks, three contested marks
Year two: 17 games, 18 goals, 60 marks, 17 contested marks
Year three: 23 games, 35 goals, 120 marks, 31 contested marks
Logan McDonald (Sydney, pick 4, 2020)
Debut: Seven games, nine goals, 22 marks, two contested marks
Year two: 17 games, 15 goals, 69 marks, 12 contested marks
Year three: 20 games, 32 goals, 84 marks, 15 contested marks
 

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