Pre-season training. Bring it on!

Remove this Banner Ad

Status
Not open for further replies.

Log in to remove this ad.

Now for the most part training was spread out over various parts of the oval, so maybe I just missed a few blokes, alex will be able to confirm. But I didn’t see Mackay, Jaensch, Knights, Dangerfield, Johncock, Tambling. I’m sure a few of these guys were out there, I just didn’t notice.

Three guys who I think will really step up this season:

Brodie Smith
Luke Brown
Ian Callinan

Smith no longer looks like a guy days removed from the draft; he looks physically ready to go. People forget how good this guy was going until he hit the rookie walk about halfway through the season. He’s not yet at his peak physical condition, that’ll take another year or two, but he looks a lot stronger, just generally bigger and has more of a presence. I love what he offers, great size for a midfielder/wingman, good pace, great reach, really takes the game on. He looked really good today, his kicking is a little unorthodox but it gets results, and I’m convinced he’ll drill one from 80 one day. :D You look at him from two years ago, or even last year, and look how thin he was. He’s built up significantly, and I think he’ll have a great year. I just wonder where they'll slot him?

I had the pleasure of watching Luke Brown all season without knowing the Crows were as interested as they were. I would’ve been pumping up his tyres all year if I had known! He was super classy out there today, hitting targets with pinpoint precision, and he just moves like an AFL player. I think he’ll start in the backline before eventually pushing into the midfield. Convinced he'll be one of those youngsters who steps right and in and looks at home from day 1.

The last guy who really stood out was Ian Callinan. I think he’ll be a lock in the FP all year, and this might be controversial, but right now if I could pick one of Porps or Callinan to be in the side, I’d go with Nutter. Porps has to prove his fitness, and prove that he’s not going to be a liability out there with his shoulder. Callinan looked outstanding in the full length drill, he was opposed to Doughty and it’s hard to gauge how serious Doughty was treating it, but Callinan beat him virtually every time. For a guy as small as he is, his body work is just unbelievable. Pound for pound he’d be the strongest guy at the club. Works harder than anyone, great skills, genuine football smarts. Pencil him in for R1.

Brad Couch is already an impressive unit, he’s a real tank! He’s got pretty good skills and his pace really stood out to me; I didn’t know he was so quick. Perhaps not super acceleration, but when he gets going he really flies! Of all the rookies, Dylan Orval impressed me the most, he’s a lot taller than I expected, and he has very good foot skills.

Anything else?? Well I’m stating the obvious here but Mitch Grigg has good skills but he’s just slow. He’ll only make it if he becomes an absolute workhorse like Jobe Watson and just runs and runs and runs. Work rate was actually one of my biggest concerns watching him with Norwood, so he’ll need to develop second efforts and willingness to run himself into the ground. Taylor Walker should be a much better player than he is. He's got it all; he's super fit, he's built like a truck, he's got superb skills and all the confidence in the world, but he hasn't taken the next step yet. You look at him train and he always stands out and looks ready for the season to start.

Shaun McKernan always looks so lackadaisical, it’s hard to tell whether he actually enjoys being in an AFL environment. I know that’s the sort of bloke he is, subdued and quiet, but I’d like to see him having a little bit more fun out there because unless he develops more confidence and belief in himself, there is zero chance he reaches his potential.

Rory Laird is really small, that’s about all I noticed about him today. Lewis Johnston has great skills for a tall, and I hope he makes the most of his second opportunity. I hardly know what half these new blokes look like, I feel out of touch! I took a couple of photos that I might eventually get up, people will need to help me determine who is who. :eek:

Anything else that comes to me I’ll post, and any questions I’ll do my best to answer. :) Looking forward to alex's report as I want to know whether he agrees/disagrees with anything!
 
:D There's always next week, I'll slip up sooner or later. ;)
I sure hope so

finger-on-button-image.jpg
 
How's are the following three looking from the point of view of intensity and their perceived use given how they are training:

Tex
Tip
Smack
Johnston
Tippo was excellent, really makes himself heard out there. Very vocal, works extremely hard and when opposed to Luke Thompson he got the better of him. Surprisingly quick out on the lead, which is why I really hope we’re going to use him as a lead-up option much more this year as opposed to Craigy’s only go to move, BOMB IT LONG TO K-TIPP!!!

As I said, Tex is fantastic on the track, has a real swagger about him, but also works very hard. He’s absolutely at his peak physically, and it’s hard to believe he’s only 21, still incredibly young. We keep waiting for his 'real' break-out, this might well be it.

I’m worried about Smack, I don’t know if he’s got it in him to get the best out of himself. I’m sure it’s a long way off reality, but he always looks miserable.

And as for Johnston I’m on the fence, I like his skills, and he moves pretty well, but I can’t help but think Sydney gave him away all too easily for what was considered a top prospect just a few years back. Good height, great skills, looks like an AFL footballer, but I think it’s more to do with his mental side than anything else.
 
Thanks Drumm.

Previous years and seeing Tex on the track he always impressed me. loved his little one on ones with goody a few years back. Elbows flying and everything. Glad to hear he looks cherry ripe.

If we can get the ball into he and Tips with a better system and to favour their strengths they are going to tear it up.

I think we need at least one of Johnston/Smack to fire a decent shot..
 
Just writing up my report now.

And will reply to some of Drummonds points after that. I don't agree with all of your points, so i'll be as kind as I can. :p
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Training report

Date: Thursday 15th of December, 2011

Weather conditions: clear blue skies 27 degrees

Start time: 09:35 am

Warm up: as usual, these were taken by Matthew Bode as I think he is the interim strength and conditioning coach until a full time appointment is made, or they give him the job. The first 45 minutes of training today involved a lot of running and fitness work. It is preseason after all.

Drill one: the playing group started out in pairs kicking it back and forth with a simple drop punt. Then they increased the distance before having one player perform a simple lead (5 or 6 steps) with the ball kicked in front of them. After doing this for 2 or 3 minutes, one of the coaches taking the session told them, “OK, boys – it’s barrel time” Simply judging from my observation allow me to suggest that Nick Joyce can really kick the hell out of it. He let one got for 65 plus. Easy. Then, continuing to work in pairs, one player, 40 odd meters away would kick it as high as he could with his partner allowing the ball to bounce and then recover the ball on the bounce. Like a reaction drill to improve their reflexes after a ball has bounced.

Drill Two: The squad was broken up into 3 different groups and was doing very different activates across the ground at once. The coaches had a 8 minutes rotation system going and each group had 8 to 10 players in each group.

Group 1) Matthew Clarkes group was required to participate in a handball drills. There were 4 offensive players onto 1 defensive player. The ball was rolled into the group and the objective of the offensive players was to use quick handballs and get it back past Matthew Clarke. It sounds simple, but the objective was to fire 2 or 3 very quick handballs and move the ball with precision. Not holding onto it because there wasn’t any apply pressure.

Group 2) Scott Camporeale’s group required a 1 on 1 mini game where the defender was required to judge the flight of the ball by backing into the oncoming traffic. The defender would come in from the side and either spoil, mark or disrupt the forward player. The objective of this drill was to encourage the defenders to gain confidence that they could go back into the way of the leading forward. Brad Crouch has a way to go before gaining the confidence that he can do this drill 100% with the bigger boys. First time I noticed him do it; he came in on an arch and watched the forward rather than keeping his eye on the ball. Camporeale said something to him (something like, back into the pack) and the next time he did it – his improved his eye sight on the ball but still came in on a bit of an arch so he could still see where the forward was coming from. I don’t think this is anything to worry about as in courage or intensity as he’s only just 17. However, he did show that automatic improvement. That’s a very good sign.

Group 3) Mark Bickley’s group was doing leading towards the ball carrier and the get back of the mark by applying a quick transference of play. The ball would start in the center square and get kicked to a leading player, he would then get back of the mark and transfer it to a leading forward. Pretty basis stuff but it does give me hope that we will have multiple leading forward options this year. Something we have missed over the past half-decade.

Drill Four:They did this drill last time I was at training. It was the diamond (or hexagon) kicking drill. During this drill, the players would continually kick the ball to their left and run to the position directly opposite them. They were positioned in the shape of a diamond (or a cross) and were playing a relay kicking game. Hope this isn’t too difficult to follow. Unlike last time, they have improved at this drill. I think I counted something like 28 or 29 clean possessions before the ball would hit the ground and I’m not talking about lollypop kicks, I’m talking full on stab passes. When they were doing this drill to the best of their ability, they looked awesome. However, they did have their moments of under 13 crap where the kicks were horrible and just didn’t even make it, overall, an improvement.

Player in position A would kick the ball to the person in position B on their left (player A would then sprint to position C directly opposite them) before Person B could kick it to person C. Player B would kick it to player C and then run to player D. The ball always travels to the left and you run to the opposite area to where you are standing. The ball would not stop moving everyone would do the same (kick to their left and run to the opposite position) as the ball travels around the perimeter of the diamond. Richard Douglas, David MacKay, VB and Symes would beat the ball most time, whereas Tex would get beaten and only be a step or two.

Drill Five: Same drill again. Boundary and stoppage match day simulation: Objective, forward line entry from a ball up or a boundary line throw in. The forward line consisted of 3 players this time – Tippett, Porplyzia and Callinan. If we can win the ball from half back, center wing and move it with quickness – we will kick lots and lots of goals this year. Kurt Tippett and Taylor Walker will have a picnic. One funny observation that I made today – Kurt Tippett doesn’t know some of the new boy’s names. I think it was Brad Crouch or Rory Laird kicked a nice worm burner to him as he led to the boundary line and hit him on the chest. At the concussion of that round of play, he called Matthew Clarke and told him “tell that new kid, that was a great kick and a great option” Looked at him, gave him a thumb up and said – I love that.

Drill Six: stoppage work in the inside 50. They were working on getting their stoppage work right and decision making whist kicking it into the forward 50 by playing a (in basketball terms) a half-court game. Same sort of stuff every clubs does but one observation I took away from it was – Brenton Sanderson wants them to play a particular way and won’t take any crap. Luke Thompson took the mark on the western side of the oval and kicked a short pass to Jason Porplyzia. Porplyzia took the mark but Sanderson didn’t like what he saw and made Thompson go back and make a better decision by kicking it long and hitting the top of the square.

Can try and answer any questions you have. So fire away. :thumbsu:
 
Now for the most part training was spread out over various parts of the oval, so maybe I just missed a few blokes, alex will be able to confirm. But I didn’t see Mackay, Jaensch, Knights, Dangerfield, Johncock, Tambling. I’m sure a few of these guys were out there, I just didn’t notice.

Three guys who I think will really step up this season:

Brodie Smith
Luke Brown
Ian Callinan

Smith no longer looks like a guy days removed from the draft; he looks physically ready to go. People forget how good this guy was going until he hit the rookie walk about halfway through the season. He’s not yet at his peak physical condition, that’ll take another year or two, but he looks a lot stronger, just generally bigger and has more of a presence. I love what he offers, great size for a midfielder/wingman, good pace, great reach, really takes the game on. He looked really good today, his kicking is a little unorthodox but it gets results, and I’m convinced he’ll drill one from 80 one day. :D You look at him from two years ago, or even last year, and look how thin he was. He’s built up significantly, and I think he’ll have a great year. I just wonder where they'll slot him?

I had the pleasure of watching Luke Brown all season without knowing the Crows were as interested as they were. I would’ve been pumping up his tyres all year if I had known! He was super classy out there today, hitting targets with pinpoint precision, and he just moves like an AFL player. I think he’ll start in the backline before eventually pushing into the midfield. Convinced he'll be one of those youngsters who steps right and in and looks at home from day 1.

The last guy who really stood out was Ian Callinan. I think he’ll be a lock in the FP all year, and this might be controversial, but right now if I could pick one of Porps or Callinan to be in the side, I’d go with Nutter. Porps has to prove his fitness, and prove that he’s not going to be a liability out there with his shoulder. Callinan looked outstanding in the full length drill, he was opposed to Doughty and it’s hard to gauge how serious Doughty was treating it, but Callinan beat him virtually every time. For a guy as small as he is, his body work is just unbelievable. Pound for pound he’d be the strongest guy at the club. Works harder than anyone, great skills, genuine football smarts. Pencil him in for R1.

Brad Couch is already an impressive unit, he’s a real tank! He’s got pretty good skills and his pace really stood out to me; I didn’t know he was so quick. Perhaps not super acceleration, but when he gets going he really flies! Of all the rookies, Dylan Orval impressed me the most, he’s a lot taller than I expected, and he has very good foot skills.

Anything else?? Well I’m stating the obvious here but Mitch Grigg has good skills but he’s just slow. He’ll only make it if he becomes an absolute workhorse like Jobe Watson and just runs and runs and runs. Work rate was actually one of my biggest concerns watching him with Norwood, so he’ll need to develop second efforts and willingness to run himself into the ground. Taylor Walker should be a much better player than he is. He's got it all; he's super fit, he's built like a truck, he's got superb skills and all the confidence in the world, but he hasn't taken the next step yet. You look at him train and he always stands out and looks ready for the season to start.

Shaun McKernan always looks so lackadaisical, it’s hard to tell whether he actually enjoys being in an AFL environment. I know that’s the sort of bloke he is, subdued and quiet, but I’d like to see him having a little bit more fun out there because unless he develops more confidence and belief in himself, there is zero chance he reaches his potential.

Rory Laird is really small, that’s about all I noticed about him today. Lewis Johnston has great skills for a tall, and I hope he makes the most of his second opportunity. I hardly know what half these new blokes look like, I feel out of touch! I took a couple of photos that I might eventually get up, people will need to help me determine who is who. :eek:

Anything else that comes to me I’ll post, and any questions I’ll do my best to answer. :) Looking forward to alex's report as I want to know whether he agrees/disagrees with anything!


I agree with you that Wingnut could take Porp's place at FP.

Although Sando is a big wrap for Porps, which may see him in a different role.

Also really looking forward to seeing Smith play this year. For me he was a standout, till the season caught up with his youth. From the first game against the Hawks have been thinking he is something special.



Was gonna go down today, but with a day off work today had a light night session on Red Dead Redemption (late comer to this game) and was asleep as the boys were running laps.
 
Now for the most part training was spread out over various parts of the oval, so maybe I just missed a few blokes, alex will be able to confirm. But I didn’t see Mackay, Jaensch, Knights, Dangerfield, Johncock, Tambling. I’m sure a few of these guys were out there, I just didn’t notice.

I thought David MacKay was their, I thought I noticed him in the handball drills where they had to run to the different point he kicked it. I think he's just cut his hair or doesn't have the blonde streaks anymore.

Didn't see Jaensch, Knights, Dangerfield, Johncock and I think they may be at the AFLPA conference. Richard Tambling was walking laps with Dean Bailey but didn't train today. Went inside at about 10:30

Three guys who I think will really step up this season:

Brodie Smith
Luke Brown
Ian Callinan

See, I don't know how you can make this statement?

At the moment, their is not even 50% game like defensive pressure being applied. It's just all training drills and anyone can look good doing them. I'm not saying they didn't look good but I just find it hard to see how you could suggest they have stepped up without that applied pressure.


The last guy who really stood out was Ian Callinan. I think he’ll be a lock in the FP all year, and this might be controversial, but right now if I could pick one of Porps or Callinan to be in the side, I’d go with Nutter. Porps has to prove his fitness, and prove that he’s not going to be a liability out there with his shoulder. Callinan looked outstanding in the full length drill, he was opposed to Doughty and it’s hard to gauge how serious Doughty was treating it, but Callinan beat him virtually every time. For a guy as small as he is, his body work is just unbelievable. Pound for pound he’d be the strongest guy at the club. Works harder than anyone, great skills, genuine football smarts. Pencil him in for R1.

Nope. Disagree. I think we will run with a 3 key forward system and they will be Tippett, Walker and Porplizia with Knights on the half forward line.

Jason Porplizia looks at fit as ever, moving freely and that shoulder isn't a worry. He's landed on numerous times without a worry. During forward entry drills, the players will always kick it to Porplizia. From my perspective, he is their number 1 go to man.


Shaun McKernan always looks so lackadaisical, it’s hard to tell whether he actually enjoys being in an AFL environment. I know that’s the sort of bloke he is, subdued and quiet, but I’d like to see him having a little bit more fun out there because unless he develops more confidence and belief in himself, there is zero chance he reaches his potential.

Today was the first day I've had to question his 'want'. He didn't want to be there today and it was the first time I've allowed myself to actually believe he won't make it. He didn't look interested, he didn't have any desire and it looks like he had given up and was just going through the motions.

I hope I'm wrong and I hope today was just a one off but after being at the back of most running drills (across the whole preseason) and not having or appear to be getting any emotional support from Mark Bickley - I Just don't know.

I hope he is just physically spend and the Christmas break will freshen him up. I know a few of them are really hanging out for it.

I hardly know what half these new blokes look like, I feel out of touch! I took a couple of photos that I might eventually get up, people will need to help me determine who is who. :eek:

Anything else that comes to me I’ll post, and any questions I’ll do my best to answer. :) Looking forward to alex's report as I want to know whether he agrees/disagrees with anything!

I agree with you. Standing back, I have no idea who is who, especially with the newbies.

Good report Drummond. :thumbsu:
 
Tex
Tip
Smack
Johnston

Tex: He is looking like the physical monster Wayne Carey and Steven Kernahan were in the 80's and 90's. We have a monster on out hands. With Kurt Tippett and Taylor Walker strutting around (agree with Drummond when he said he has the swagger) the forward line, we have a couple of game breaking forwards on our hands.

Kurt Tippett: The way the ball moves out of the midfield and with limited ease, he could kick 80 plus next year without breaking a sweat. Therefore, take into consideration the limited defensive pressure being applied but he is looking really good. Moving like a Porsche with a trojan horse frame.

Smack: read the reports. Said it in their.

Johnston: Not 100% sure about this one. If Andy Otten moves into the midfield, he could take that 3rd defenders role. Moves well, nice skills, quick recovery and good closing speed but this is still only training. His playing ability is unknown at this stage. I'll wait until the NAB cup as i'm sure he will play some.
 
Nope. Disagree. I think we will run with a 3 key forward system and they will be Tippett, Walker and Porplizia with Knights on the half forward line.

Jason Porplizia looks at fit as ever, moving freely and that shoulder isn't a worry. He's landed on numerous times without a worry. During forward entry drills, the players will always kick it to Porplizia. From my perspective, he is their number 1 go to man.



:

Could you see Callinan and Porps in the both side?

Sando has said that Porps really impressed him, and I am sure he would love Callinan's grit. Porps to play up the ground a bit more and Callinan FP/Small Forwad role.

I reckon Porps and Knighta might be fighting for the same spot.

The other player in the mix is Pets.
 
Thanks for the report guys. I have to say I'm genuinely looking forward to the NAB Cup this year. Hopefully Sando gives a good range of players a red hot go and we see some good performances ready for the season whole.
 
Could you see Callinan and Porps in the both side?

Sando has said that Porps really impressed him, and I am sure he would love Callinan's grit. Porps to play up the ground a bit more and Callinan FP/Small Forwad role.

I reckon Porps and Knighta might be fighting for the same spot.

The other player in the mix is Pets.

I guess so, they could play in the same side but I cannot see Porps, Callanan, Walker and Tippett operating with any sort of efficiency close to goal.

If anything, Ian Callinan will have to play further out from goal as I'm yet to see any indication that they plan to play Jason Porplizia in any position other than a forward pocket.

At the moment I see the forward line looking like this

HF: Knights ~ Tippett ~ Petrenko
FF: Porplizia ~ Walker ~ Sloane (play with 5 forwards)
 
I guess so, they could play in the same side but I cannot see Porps, Callanan, Walker and Tippett operating with any sort of efficiency close to goal.

If anything, Ian Callinan will have to play further out from goal as I'm yet to see any indication that they plan to play Jason Porplizia in any position other than a forward pocket.

At the moment I see the forward line looking like this

HF: Knights ~ Tippett ~ Petrenko
FF: Porplizia ~ Walker ~ Sloane (play with 5 forwards)

That is the forward line I see as most likely, and is probably the preferred one from last year. Sloane/Danger to rotate Mid/Forward.

However the promising thing from the training reports is that it sounds like there will be more forward movement and leads. I reckon Tip is unstoppable on a lead. And Walker is also best when he is mobile. Long term he will play like Nick Riewoldt.



Just on Tip, kinda, how is Josh Jenkins looking? I see his recruitment as insurance for Tip leaving......similar player IMO.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Remove this Banner Ad

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top