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It looks like he probably will be behind others a pure inside mid. Needs to develop his tank ( which will happen with experience ) and particularly his marking to be a point of difference through the middle of the ground for us. No reason to think he can’t do that
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Needs to improve his core and leg strength a bit more, if he can get more aggressive at the contest, there’s probably a spot for him as the 5th inside mid
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He'll be flat out getting ahead of Dowling and Bond if he doesn't lift significantly and soon. Nankervis I think will be pushing hard to for AFL minutes
Wing absolutely wasn’t his cup of tea, but that’s not at all his fault
Don’t think he’s an auto delist like some here seem to have him, if he develops his strength in the contest he could still very well carve out a career. His clearance work was really quite clean when played in the middle, to go with a solid defensive game
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People sling off at Crouch for his lack of hurt factor so why isn't Hately coming under the same blowtorch because that's surely his weakness as well.?
At the same age, we best hope Hately is a late developer...
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I like nankervis but I’m sure his primary role will be on the inside. Depends on how size and strength he can add to his frame. Right now I think he’ll end up a wing/hf with the odd run on the ball
Not sure where you've been but most of us think he's worse than Crouch in that area.
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Where are these posts you speak of?
Neither Crouch or Hately have much hurt factor.
Doubt anyone is suggesting differently.
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I don’t expect to play a starring role
1) taller (more scope for being a potentially more impactful presence)
2) better defensively
3) has youth and development on his side
Matt gets the pushback he does not only because of his weaknesses, but also as he has no more room to grow/doesn’t fit our timeline. There’s still time for Hately to develop and become a player, although I’d give him less of a chance by quite a way than the likes of Berry/Soligo/Schoenberg (better hurt factor with those guys)
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Wishfull thinking for a player coming up to their 5th AFL season?
Have seen no evidence of Hately using his size advantage over other mids to this point.
This is not some skinny tall we're talking here.
Will be 22 for all of next season, not necessarily beyond the development stage
Probably up against it to break into our midfield, just don’t reckon he’s an auto delist as some say
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Mutineer as the one who usually has a players draft year info at your fingertips do you have the draft video of GWS when they recruited Hatley?
I’m pretty sure they the footage of recruiting team giving the rundown in the draft room on the night painted a picture of a versatile player who would be expected could play wing among other roles.
I don’t think he was seen as an inside mid when drafted.
I’m pretty sure they the footage of recruiting team giving the rundown in the draft room on the night painted a picture of a versatile player who would be expected could play wing among other roles.
I don’t think he was seen as an inside mid when drafted.
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Definitely drafted as a midfielder, only reason you could think that would be because in his draft year he played mostly high half forward for Centrals League team, obviously only because he was an inexperienced 17/18 year old. Played midfield for his U18's team and for SA at the Nationals.
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Found it.
Within 1st 30secs and again at 2:30
Talk of how he can play a number of different positions.
I just think it gives some context to how he has been used here. That is the type he was seen as and drafted where he was because of.
It’s not just our coaches playing him out of position, it’s actually consistent with how it was seen his skill set benefiting an afl club from the start, and maybe he’s just turned out to not be good enough.
They certainly aren’t saying this is a guy who will ge a central cog of our midfield. In fact that’s the other players they’re picking and they even said is 2 of them too many to pick (not even including hately in that equation)
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That might have been GWS take on it but he was definitely considered more generally as a midfielder prospect.
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He played the State Champs as a midfielder. Against WA I thought he was ok. Accumulated rather than burst.That might have been GWS take on it but he was definitely considered more generally as a midfielder prospect.
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Of course Dunkley and Oliver shat on them both, but seriously, he was DAYS off of being in the 2020 draft and is borderline key position size, he's one that'll take a bit more time for us to know what we really have.
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His best chance will be getting fully fit under burgess to show what he can do. If he is at peak fitness and still can't crack it, it might be time to part ways at the end of his contract
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On Hately, what stands out is lack of leg speed, poor loopy kick, and not great decision making. I've definitely seen an improvement this year but don't see a spot in team for him at this point.
Keays, Sloan, Crouch, Nankervis ahead of him at this point.
Watching Nank, he's creative and seems to have the peripheral vision. Developing quickly and his body conditioning dramatically improved last year. Strong around the hips, stands up in tackles, and gets his hands free. If he cleans up his kicking, he's pushing for an afl spot.
With all that, didnt hately have groin issues early in the year and still managed to finish strong in the sanfl. Solid depth player to keep around, and he might just make it later in his career.
The recruitment of dowling and bond, tells me we are not 100% sold on hately or nank as the big body mid.
I'd love a big body mid, but I think leg speed in the midfield is the biggest need. Laird and Berry have a bit of toe, Shoenberg, and soligo a little bit slower. Our midfield revival hangs on pedlar or rachelle's inclusion into the mix.
Interesting towards the end of year Jones was getting played around the midfield. North game from memory. Be interesting to see what they do with him, with Milera moving back. There's some legs speed we need.
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Keays, Sloan, Crouch, Nankervis ahead of him at this point.
Watching Nank, he's creative and seems to have the peripheral vision. Developing quickly and his body conditioning dramatically improved last year. Strong around the hips, stands up in tackles, and gets his hands free. If he cleans up his kicking, he's pushing for an afl spot.
With all that, didnt hately have groin issues early in the year and still managed to finish strong in the sanfl. Solid depth player to keep around, and he might just make it later in his career.
The recruitment of dowling and bond, tells me we are not 100% sold on hately or nank as the big body mid.
I'd love a big body mid, but I think leg speed in the midfield is the biggest need. Laird and Berry have a bit of toe, Shoenberg, and soligo a little bit slower. Our midfield revival hangs on pedlar or rachelle's inclusion into the mix.
Interesting towards the end of year Jones was getting played around the midfield. North game from memory. Be interesting to see what they do with him, with Milera moving back. There's some legs speed we need.
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Fair points but I think there is some massive projection
Recruiting Bond and Dowling doesnt suggest a lack of confidence in Nankervis nor Hateley - its just how AFL clubs are drafting. Utility midfielders who can slot in across HF or HB . Also I would find it unlikely - given the AFC mould and their draft positions - that either of them are ''pushing'' for a spot in 2023. (will be exciting if they do)
Hateley did indeed have groin issues and hopefully Burgess has worked on that.
Just on Nankervis he is still young and learning the game. I think there are too many ahead of him unless he has a burst. In front of Hateley? Not sure because as we know at the AFC seniority is king
* I want Hateley to succeed so I am biased
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