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Norm Smith Medallist
- Sep 20, 2014
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Port have dipped and we should win this. However interstate games are tough. Win this we lock in top 4. Someone to be rested. Smith?
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Where's the lie?Naughty naughty.
They gave Melbourne a huge run for their money last week. Port have some very quality players. I still think we win but it could be an arm wrestle more than people think.Port have dipped and we should win this. However interstate games are tough. Win this we lock in top 4. Someone to be rested. Smith?
I’m curious, what is it that you think he should be saying in these pressers? Or even what is it that you would like to hear?"We want to be playing our best footy at the pointy end of the season". Scott has uttered this nonsense in various forms many times over the years. First it's a cliche. Second, wanting is not doing. Third, look at what happens.
It took us over a half to shake them off at home last time.They gave Melbourne a huge run for their money last week. Port have some very quality players. I still think we win but it could be an arm wrestle more than people think.
I think they are actually a very talented list with a crap coachIt took us over a half to shake them off at home last time.
Henry” look, we have ropes all ready to tie Scott up and throw him into a cabin in the woods come finals. We will be coaching ourselves again come finals just like the boys did in 11.”I’m curious, what is it that you think he should be saying in these pressers? Or even what is it that you would like to hear?
Their list has been good but not exceptional.I think they are actually a very talented list with a crap coach
We were one lousy minute away from being top spot/minor premiers last year, and we all think we are an improved team.Clubs with their season on the line, yet containing obvious deficiencies, are actually solid preparation for finals.
Win this week and Geelong would likely put a line through Port's season.
St Kilda are a chance of winning their next two before Geelong play them, but beating them would seriously jeopardize their finals chances given that they finish with Brisbane and Sydney.
Bulldogs will be a big game if they turn up - they and Richmond are the ones who will realistically be battling for 8th.
Gold Coast's season will be done.
West Coast is self explanatory.
Don’t rate him. Think he took over a team with a very very good list of young very high draft picks across the board that was coming of age and he took them to a few prelims but also severely underperformed with them dropping the ball heaps of years with average seasons including this one. I do think they could have a few flags under a different coach for their journey.Their list has been good but not exceptional.
Ken took over a basket case club at the time and has twice been within a kick of taking them to a grand final (being knocked out by dynasty Hawks and Tigers teams). The prelim last year was their first real finals embarrassment and the one that leaves a sour taste. There's been a couple of lean years and then some where they've been thereabouts (5th-8th) but clearly not in contention. He may not be the right man going forward but his record overall hasn't been bad.
Yeah, what you're applying there is a coaching/player perspective. Believe it or not, we have no influence with our speculation. How you're talking above is how I think in any team I am personally playing in. I understand it is a protective mechanism to not get your hopes up while considering each game as a 50/50 at best - however it's not really based in logical assessment. Nobody is declaring a certain outcome, merely what is most likely.We were one lousy minute away from being top spot/minor premiers last year, and we all think we are an improved team.
And Demons are not quite what they were last year.
But I still want to take each game as it comes. Port is a hurdle as they are still with a chance, and are very good at home.
I still believe we are not that good like 07-11 where we could virtually know we would win most games.
OWAAT.
neither is anyone else. Saints 09 or coll 11 would wipe the floor with the rest of the top 4.I still believe we are not that good like 07-11 where we could virtually know we would win most games.
Of course.Yeah, what you're applying there is a coaching/player perspective. Believe it or not, we have no influence with our speculation. How you're talking above is how I think in any team I am personally playing in. I understand it is a protective mechanism to not get your hopes up while considering each game as a 50/50 at best - however it's not really based in logical assessment. Nobody is declaring a certain outcome, merely what is most likely.
Any team can beat any other team on a given day - everyone has gone over that a thousand times. However if Geelong bring their usual level and their opponents also do, the odds are heavily in favour of one of the best performed teams in the comp so far. You could say the same about Melbourne but actually, their form is comparably patchy at this stage.
Probably, but the team seems to be able to focus better on real challengers; I am happy when we are the hunters, and really work hard on opposition team strengths, and hopefully, Port is respected this week.Our future opponents outside of the eight are inconsistent. It is much better to be playing them than say Lions or Freo away, or Pies at the G.
You are spot-on, very logical, and it would be great for some of us (like me) to be less emotionally invested in these games.Some just don't like to be positive and prefer to look in the rear vision mirror. I think they're scared of getting their hopes up. I kind of get it in a way, but following this sport is like a rollercoaster ride...you've just got to embrace it, ride the bumps and enjoy all the wins along the way. I have loved the last couple of months..I went to the Carlton game and just loved being there to see a great win. The Richmond game was a classic, if you didn't enjoy that you might as well give it up. Others will remain firmly focussed on finals and won't enjoy the wins along the way..it's a flag or bust for many and it's a bit sad they can't relax and enjoy some fantasic H&A wins against quality opposition.
I'm really looking forward to this weeks game against Port and riding all the bumps over four quarters in what's another challenging game, but others in their mind will only accept a 30+ point win and even if we win by 100, they'll just say "but we need to do it in finals" and they won't derive any enjoyment at all regardless of the outcome.
"Injury updates" thread & "Changes vs Geelong" thread on the PA board is absolutely lol....I've gone back atleast 2 days worth and they the supporters are in a world of not happy campers. It's worth reading.
It's gold isn't itBest was going to shoot Kenny's dog.
A slight step up from keying cars in the parking areas.
Yeah yeah, you tell them exactly how they should think and behave and speak.Tuohy and now Henry are informing the world that the Cats can go to another level and be better in the finals. This is the sort of talk Scott used to go in for and probably still does.
And it's true we can and do go to another level in the finals, usually a lower one. Talk is cheap.
My point is the Cats should just focus on winning the next game; "going to another level' several weeks hence is at this stage wishful thinking. They may "have more improvement" in them - todays' Age - according to Henry; but it's far easier to utter the words than to do the deed.
I've got my own opinions on his most recent remarks and when I heard them I thought he's feeling a bit of pressure to deliver this year.VicWard uses the word "projecting". It was Freud who first wrote about projection in this sense. Interesting because if VW read the 'The Pyschopathology of Everyday Life' he'd see what I'm getting at.
A couple of years ago we finished top of the ladder and on the eve of the finals Scott said, "I think we'll be even better next year." Why was it necessary to say such a thing at that time? It just signalled the message: I'm nor sure how we got here and I'm not sure we can win the flag. And nor did we.
Further, i never get why some posters employ such a nasty tone when responding to the observations of other Cats supporters. We all follow the same team do we not? By definition a forum like this is an invitation for the expression of opinion and it is my considered opinion that the kind of talk I have cited is futile and unproductive - demonstrably so in the case of our team in recent years.
Not only that, but it's been well documented by past players that Scott will actively BS his way through press conferences and then address the players with his actual thoughts. Stevie J has a great chapter in his book about it.'We're taking it one week at a time.'
Or 'Every game is a danger game'.
Or even 'We'll just worry about the process and let the results look after themselves'.
See? All of those empty platitudes make you feel so much better about how switched on and 'different' the team is this year.
The idea that any of the public utterances made by anyone associated with the club make any real difference to the performance of the team on the field has always seemed like complete nonsense to me. The outrage about 'It's kind of "mission accomplished" a little bit' (Scott's actual words on the night) is totally out of proportion to what effect it would have actually had on the outcome of any subsequent Cats game in that finals series.
And, given the consistent messaging from those who fume at every loose phrase they hear coming from someone down at the club is that 'actions speak louder than words', you'd have to wonder why they think any of it matters. It's entirely logically inconsistent to say that the words don't count for anything and then bleat about them as if they carry some weight in determining whether we're going to be a chance in any upcoming matches.