AFL Autopsy RND 19: Loss to the Pies

[Here_we_come]

The most frustrating thing is the ease of that transition at the end. Appears all our players were expecting a goal by Jones and didn’t set up properly. Amateur hour.

 

[eth-dog]

Snelling slipping under the radar here. One of Collingwood's best today

Nah. Was basically in Daicos' pocket after QT and really quelled him. Had a couple of bad kicks but was his best game for the year.

 

[Mootsy]

That was super clutch by Elliot, i mean,
literally the perfect ending for the pies.

fumbling as a skill won't win many games

 

[Vincent Hanna]

I just watched the last two minutes again and although we missed easy shots to seal the game earlier, that 12 second coast to coast transition should never have happened. Surely they would drill for this exact scenario...

 

[TheGrizz]

Nah. Was basically in Daicos' pocket after QT and really quelled him. Had a couple of bad kicks but was his best game for the year.

He is super panicky with ball in hand. He has been back 5 weeks now and he really should be up to the speed of the game by now

 

[eth-dog]

Rutten needs to,

• Implement a proper defensive structure which stops the easy end to end transitions. It's way too consistent with us. We can't keep relying on kicking enough goals to win it - that doesn't hold up in finals.
• Stop with the Ham experiment. ENOUGH ALREADY.
• Send Heppell on his way with a proper farewell while we still can.
• Acknowledge signs of a tide turning and be capable of executing other plans in the moment.
• Drive home the importance of flooding the back in case of a miss at the pointy end of the match.
• And stop being such a Mr Nice Guy apologist. FFS. It breeds loser culture.

1. Yep, fair enough
2. See my post earlier in the thread. Ham is basically perma sub because he has no future
3. I'm cool either way at this point
4. We tried taking the sting out of the game. It didn't work.
5. We stacked the centre, which is a typical miss plan for that game.
5. Get a grip.

 

[carnthedons]

Once we missed those shots early in the last you just knew we were going to get done. Some positives, giving up the first 6 goals not one of them but a bit of mental toughness to fight back was nice.

Why we persist with Ham I don’t know. Losing one of it not our best player of late to be replaced by an undersized, poorly skilled, meek seagull was huge. Brayden, I’m sure you’re a nice fella but I’d be happier if I never saw you play seniors again.

Dumb team does dumb things, it happens. Skipper done, but most have known that for a while. He’s had a few games lately where he’s looked ok but they’ve coincided with the opposition bringing no pressure. He’s slow, poorly skilled and at this point in our development I’m not sure what he brings. The cruisy knacker should cruise the **** off into the sunset.

Jones’ mental side should absolutely be questioned. I think he was just cooked by the end for that shot but he’s seemingly like a lot of our players have been for a long time, if it’s not easy or presented perfectly he’s not about the hard yards.

Hobbs and Durham however, I will sing their praises until the cows come home. Tough, skilful, genuinely hard footballers.

Hopefully we get some “learnings” and move on. We have the potential and ability to be better than our record suggests we are, whether we have the mental fortitude or not I’m still not sure.

 

[TheUnicorn]

Say what you will about Collingwood but they definitely handle pressure well. We froze in the last 5 or so minutes when the game was on the line.

 

[ghostdog]

I'm not melting and it means a lot for our future direction. The signs are there that Truck is amatuer and either we cut our losses early enough and use the tools of greatness for this group ASAP or we are going to tread water.

Not gonna happen. Save your strength.

 

[MiguelM]

Say what you will about Collingwood but they definitely handle pressure well. We froze in the last 5 or so minutes when the game was on the line.

You could see it a mile away.

Really poor game by Hind today. Didn't provide enough run. Gave up 2 goals due to poor tackling efforts.

 

[Vindicater]

First thoughts on next weeks game.

Out: Heppell (Omit/Manage/fake injury) In: Perkins

Out: Redman (injury) In: D'Ambrosio

Out: Hobbs (Manage due to shoulder) In: Menzie

 

[The Dustbin]

Weak as piss effort by Ridley on the mark by Elliott. Will look horrific in the review

Edit: it was Langford. Horrific nonetheless

He look to injure himself beforehand. Maybe that had an impact?

 

[Phone]

I just watched the last two minutes again and although we missed easy shots to seal the game earlier, that 12 second coast to coast transition should never have happened. Surely they would drill for this exact scenario...

Of course they drill for it but similar things have happened to far better teams (Hawks in 2012 (Hawkins goal) and Geelong in 2013 (Miracle on Grass)). When teams are throwing everything at it, moving it up the ground can look so simple.

On reply, it looks like Ham & someone else I can't quite make out each got sucked up the ground a little bit and ended up basically covering the space around one Pies player which created the space for Moore to kick it over to Bianco all by himself, and then Kelly tried to play in front of Elliott. I'm guessing Ham and Kelly probably didn't do what the drills told them to do

edit lol it's almost certainly Ham totally missing his assignment.

 

[raskolnikov]

Is Stevic on the Pies Xmas card list, or what?
I’ve never seen an umpire blow holding ball so quickly against us. Very costly. Two of them were absolutely no prior and he was blowing the free immediately.

While at the same time ignoring a few blatant Collingwood HTBs.

 

[MiguelM]

Ham, 1 handball 4m gained!

 

[ghostdog]

Positives ? pendulbury actually got done holding the ball

Casually replaced by Daicoses thoigh. Note to umpires: you can penalise the player even if their surname is Daicos.

On another note, when Ham tackled Pendles in the last quarter, I thought he threw the ball out. Broadcasters said nothing

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

Ham, 1 handball 4m gained!

better than 4 metres lost

 

[Bombers36]

Stiff but lots of positives- Draper was immense - Guelfi has risen a level, Shiel and Merrett decent + Durham, 2MP we will finish higher on the ladder next year


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[Mr Bultitude]

Also to the Pies fans telling me to get effed and flipping me the bird after the siren, you're all class. Never change Collingwood.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Casually replaced by Daicoses thoigh. Note to umpires: you can penalise the player even if their surname is Daicos.

On another note, when Ham tackled Pendles in the last quarter, I thought he threw the ball out. Broadcasters said nothing

He definitely threw it.

 

[raskolnikov]

Anyway I hope either Collingwood or Carlton make top 4 and go out in straight sets.

 

[ghostdog]

Once we missed those shots early in the last you just knew we were going to get done. Some positives, giving up the first 6 goals not one of them but a bit of mental toughness to fight back was nice.

Why we persist with Ham I don’t know. Losing one of it not our best player of late to be replaced by an undersized, poorly skilled, meek seagull was huge. Brayden, I’m sure you’re a nice fella but I’d be happier if I never saw you play seniors again.

Dumb team does dumb things, it happens. Skipper done, but most have known that for a while. He’s had a few games lately where he’s looked ok but they’ve coincided with the opposition bringing no pressure. He’s slow, poorly skilled and at this point in our development I’m not sure what he brings. The cruisy knacker should cruise the * off into the sunset.

Jones’ mental side should absolutely be questioned. I think he was just cooked by the end for that shot but he’s seemingly like a lot of our players have been for a long time, if it’s not easy or presented perfectly he’s not about the hard yards.

Hobbs and Durham however, I will sing their praises until the cows come home. Tough, skilful, genuinely hard footballers.

Hopefully we get some “learnings” and move on. We have the potential and ability to be better than our record suggests we are, whether we have the mental fortitude or not I’m still not sure.

I'm sorry, your point about Harry is silly. He has been throwing himself in harm's way to contest since he broke into the side. He's not your whippee tonight.

 

[yodellinhank]

Say what you will about Collingwood but they definitely handle pressure well. We froze in the last 5 or so minutes when the game was on the line.

Culture. It's why I'm not sure I quite agree with people who are saying we're better off holding draft position and got as much from the game as we needed

 

[TheUnicorn]

better than 4 metres lost

 

[Blind Turn]

Is Stevic on the Pies Xmas card list, or what?
I’ve never seen an umpire blow holding ball so quickly against us. Very costly. Two of them were absolutely no prior and he was blowing the free immediately.

If you’ve been following us for a while you will have noticed that is that we are not on his Xmas card list rather than anything to do with the Pies.