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Hey guys,
Just wanted to say, watching that game, that De Goey just did not seem comfortable at all in the midfield. Kept getting in the wrong spots, and just couldn't get near it when he got his minutes. Had a good first quarter, and then just looked completely spent after that (walking to the next contest instead of jogging).
Will Bucks persist with the experiment? Or will he push him to high half forward where he can push up to the mid, but also be dangerous near goal? I feel like it's De Goey that's dictating that convo and doing what's best for him and not the team, rather than the coach himself stating what's best for the team. Just does not look like a mid at all.
Also, Moore is an out and out superstar, and just a pleasure to watch
Just wanted to say, watching that game, that De Goey just did not seem comfortable at all in the midfield. Kept getting in the wrong spots, and just couldn't get near it when he got his minutes. Had a good first quarter, and then just looked completely spent after that (walking to the next contest instead of jogging).
Will Bucks persist with the experiment? Or will he push him to high half forward where he can push up to the mid, but also be dangerous near goal? I feel like it's De Goey that's dictating that convo and doing what's best for him and not the team, rather than the coach himself stating what's best for the team. Just does not look like a mid at all.
Also, Moore is an out and out superstar, and just a pleasure to watch
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So, a bottom 6 finish then. He's a dead man walking. He should go now.
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Should have traded out Grundy instead of the trio that departed.
No idea what’s happened to him but his form is the same as last year which was at the time attributed to the bubble.
Now we’ve got a million dollar ruckman, for the next seven years mind you, who taps to either the opposition or nobody, is average overhead, not dangerous up forward, and no longer gets involved as a midfielder. Christ, he got ragdolled by Tim English on multiple occasions tonight.
It’s just not good enough.
No idea what’s happened to him but his form is the same as last year which was at the time attributed to the bubble.
Now we’ve got a million dollar ruckman, for the next seven years mind you, who taps to either the opposition or nobody, is average overhead, not dangerous up forward, and no longer gets involved as a midfielder. Christ, he got ragdolled by Tim English on multiple occasions tonight.
It’s just not good enough.
The stats are pretty damning, for the dogs, they should've won by 15 goals. Still only first round but the talent they got and the complete game dominance they had - the alarm bells will be going off for bevo.
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The only thing I was looking forward to this year was some serious game development and player development. Only one game I know but it doesn't look any different.
Gotta give Kudos to those fans that still believe, willfully blind I know but geez talk about able to take punishment when the reality hits.
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The only thing I was looking forward to this year was some serious game development and player development. Only one game I know but it doesn't look any different.
Gotta give Kudos to those fans that still believe, willfully blind I know but geez talk about able to take punishment when the reality hits.
Did you watch the game? there is no chance bucks can be defended, if he had any credibility he would hand in the reigns now. This team is going nowhere, sooner changes are made the better
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I thought Tyler Brown was ok. So there’s that.
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Honestly I don't mind bringing Greenwood in.
At least he tackles and has some campaigner in him.
Play Murphy, Rantall, Macrae next game.
At least he tackles and has some campaigner in him.
Play Murphy, Rantall, Macrae next game.
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JDG is fine, absolutely not worried about him at all. We came up against the best midfield in the comp by a long way and it showed with the lack of experience we had running through the guts. Adams coming off a short PS, Pendles had a bad night, wasn't just him.
JDG will play a 50/50 split, he still had 3 shots on goals, he kicks those 3 you say he had a good game. What's best for the team is him playing that role as well. We are incredibly thin through the midfield now (lost Treloar and Beams of recent years) and Pendles is 34 now. Greenwood is past it as his time as a grunt mid and we were without Sidebottom as well. 1 game, I back JDG to bounce back.
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Yeah, just coach the side into oblivion. Losing is in his dna
There’s giving up and accepting reality. honestly name anything good about tonight’s game other than Moore and our defence holding the floodgates for the 100th time? What’s changed over the offseason? nothing, we are going backwards
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Being tipped to finish top 4 means nothing
Can only beat who you have in front of you.
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Really, nice user in space but in close he just hot potato’s the footy to make it someone’s else’s problem.
Played out pretty much as expected. A suspect forward line. A semi competent midfield that needs a rebuild and a sub par forward line. Better judges than us fans have written us off this season and from what we saw tonight, it would be hard to argue.
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I didn't think he was okay, but I won't quibble too much, because who am I to deprive a man of a pinhole of light amidst the gloom of our despair?
Taught an absolute lesson in hunger, hardness, running and effort by a team that knows how to play with intensity.
Collingwood simply don't come to play with intensity any more.
Our defence try their best. Moore, Noble and Maynard were all immense; Crisp and Quaynor dug in. But everywhere else, we were nothing short of shambolic.
Our midfield copped the biggest pantsing I can remember a Collingwood midfield getting, and I survived the Tony Shaw years. Grundy, Pendles, Sier, Adams, De Goey, Brown, Daicos – not a single player from our starting midfield was willing to compete in the contest. We were mauled on the inside, absolutely smashed on the spread, downright embarrassed. Beaten by 150 possessions, and destroyed in contested ball. They should be mortified with that performance. It was a disgrace from top to tail. Adams and Grundy were especially poor for senior players. Sier just doesn't look like he's league standard.
Our forward line carried three absolute witches hats in Henry, Ruscoe and WHE. Henry and Ruscoe have time on their side; WHE sure as hell doesn't. We'd have been better off playing three men short than having those guys out there tonight. In fairness, Cox, Elliott and Checkers did amazingly well to put six goals on the board considering the disappearing acts of those around them. And even those guys had several brain-melts each.
And the skills? Dear God. WHE's attempted inside 50 which shanked off his shin and hit the only bulldog in the vicinity when Cox had a literal paddock of space around him. Adams' dropped chest mark. Pendles' fumbles. Pendles' stumbles. WHE's timid attack and fumbly hands. Henry's fumbles. Pendles' dropped mark. Henry's dropped mark. Checkers' dropped mark. JT taking Elliott's mark and missing. JDG taking advantage from JT's free kick and missing. That's enough howlers for a season; we got them out in four quarters.
Further cruelling our chances was a gameplan that is just absolutely, positively hopeless. Devoid of any tactical nous whatsoever. We continually seem to achieve what should be an impossible paradox: we're outnumbered in defence; we're outnumbered in the midfield; we're outnumbered up forward. It reeks of a pissweak work-rate from the players (whose continual refusal to run hard and present options baffles me year after year), and a league-worst set of tactics from the coaches.
Our gameplan is broken. And it has been for the last nine years, even when we've been winning.
It's an excruciating pain to watch: get smashed at the contest; don't run hard enough defensively on the outside to prevent the opposition spreading; concede field position and rely on amazing defenders to win it back... then chip it aimlessly side to side before bombing it long down the line to an outnumber. That is literally how we've been playing footy for as long as I can recall. Anything would be better than this. If I never see a field full of static players waving their arms in the air without making any effort to move and create options for the ball carrier, it will be too soon. We'd honestly be better off just going man-on-man and jamming the ball forward blindly at every opportunity.
We need a complete tactical overhaul. Starting at the very top. Fortunately, with Ed now having shot himself in the foot so badly that he killed himself, Bucks is, for the first time in his career, fair game. We can finally move on from this disaster of a decade in which the highlights have been few and far between, and the depressing maulings like tonight have become the standard.
This is turning into a long rant so I'll wrap it up by saying: it hurts watching the Pies play like this. So scared; so fumbly; so weak; so heartless.
At least this year, if results go the way they look like going, we can finally move on from the Buckley era and start anew. God, what a relief that will be.
Collingwood simply don't come to play with intensity any more.
Our defence try their best. Moore, Noble and Maynard were all immense; Crisp and Quaynor dug in. But everywhere else, we were nothing short of shambolic.
Our midfield copped the biggest pantsing I can remember a Collingwood midfield getting, and I survived the Tony Shaw years. Grundy, Pendles, Sier, Adams, De Goey, Brown, Daicos – not a single player from our starting midfield was willing to compete in the contest. We were mauled on the inside, absolutely smashed on the spread, downright embarrassed. Beaten by 150 possessions, and destroyed in contested ball. They should be mortified with that performance. It was a disgrace from top to tail. Adams and Grundy were especially poor for senior players. Sier just doesn't look like he's league standard.
Our forward line carried three absolute witches hats in Henry, Ruscoe and WHE. Henry and Ruscoe have time on their side; WHE sure as hell doesn't. We'd have been better off playing three men short than having those guys out there tonight. In fairness, Cox, Elliott and Checkers did amazingly well to put six goals on the board considering the disappearing acts of those around them. And even those guys had several brain-melts each.
And the skills? Dear God. WHE's attempted inside 50 which shanked off his shin and hit the only bulldog in the vicinity when Cox had a literal paddock of space around him. Adams' dropped chest mark. Pendles' fumbles. Pendles' stumbles. WHE's timid attack and fumbly hands. Henry's fumbles. Pendles' dropped mark. Henry's dropped mark. Checkers' dropped mark. JT taking Elliott's mark and missing. JDG taking advantage from JT's free kick and missing. That's enough howlers for a season; we got them out in four quarters.
Further cruelling our chances was a gameplan that is just absolutely, positively hopeless. Devoid of any tactical nous whatsoever. We continually seem to achieve what should be an impossible paradox: we're outnumbered in defence; we're outnumbered in the midfield; we're outnumbered up forward. It reeks of a pissweak work-rate from the players (whose continual refusal to run hard and present options baffles me year after year), and a league-worst set of tactics from the coaches.
Our gameplan is broken. And it has been for the last nine years, even when we've been winning.
It's an excruciating pain to watch: get smashed at the contest; don't run hard enough defensively on the outside to prevent the opposition spreading; concede field position and rely on amazing defenders to win it back... then chip it aimlessly side to side before bombing it long down the line to an outnumber. That is literally how we've been playing footy for as long as I can recall. Anything would be better than this. If I never see a field full of static players waving their arms in the air without making any effort to move and create options for the ball carrier, it will be too soon. We'd honestly be better off just going man-on-man and jamming the ball forward blindly at every opportunity.
We need a complete tactical overhaul. Starting at the very top. Fortunately, with Ed now having shot himself in the foot so badly that he killed himself, Bucks is, for the first time in his career, fair game. We can finally move on from this disaster of a decade in which the highlights have been few and far between, and the depressing maulings like tonight have become the standard.
This is turning into a long rant so I'll wrap it up by saying: it hurts watching the Pies play like this. So scared; so fumbly; so weak; so heartless.
At least this year, if results go the way they look like going, we can finally move on from the Buckley era and start anew. God, what a relief that will be.
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I feel sorry for Darcy Moore.
Should leave like his old man did.
Should leave like his old man did.
How good was our $ million dollar piece of shit giraffe , 7 more years such a dumb club
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