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Crouch has not had a single digit contested disposal game this year and his lowest disp games have been 18 and 19 touches
He is averaging 27 touches, 5 tackles and 12 contested possies
Crouch keeps his spot 100%
He is doing everything thats asked of him imo
He is the quiet achiever and is no way on notice
Elite kicking to forwards compared to Gresh, Steele, Crouch& Ross who presume the forwards are standing about 20 metres off the groundByrnes is not the player you want to be kicking to our forwards , he shanks way too many
There is no situation or comparison where Brynes kicking could be described as elite.Elite kicking to forwards compared to Gresh, Steele, Crouch& Ross who presume the forwards are standing about 20 metres off the ground
U said hes on noticeI never said he shouldn't keep his spot. But I'm sorry, we get absolutely slammed out of the midfield every week.
I don't really think raw numbers mean that much when he knows how to accumulate the football - that's not the issue. And I agree he's been our best midfielder, but we need him to be at his best every week to even have a chance in the midfield.
Probably harsh but I still want to see more from our senior midfielders.
Can we order the most commonly accused underperformers since our bad patch started.Yep Crouch has been one of our best this year. Plenty of other things to whinge about before him I'd reckon.
Personally I wouldn’t have Battle in there.Can we order the most commonly accused underperformers since our bad patch started.
Gresham
Ross
Battle
Howard
Sharman
Patton
Byrnes
Anyone in that list that shouldn't be, anyone else who should be?
It's unfortunate that it's happened to us twice.The only thing I'd say about the goal kicking is that the Hawks took shots from everywhere and just took rushed snaps and low percentage long range chances which is what Adelaide did to great success. It means they put our defence out of position but requires a bit of luck.
Can we order the most commonly accused underperformers since our bad patch started.
Gresham
Ross
Battle
Howard
Sharman
Patton
Byrnes
Anyone in that list that shouldn't be, anyone else who should be?
Can we order the most commonly accused underperformers since our bad patch started.
Gresham
Ross
Battle
Howard
Sharman
Patton
Byrnes
Anyone in that list that shouldn't be, anyone else who should be?
Can we order the most commonly accused underperformers since our bad patch started.
Gresham
Ross
Battle
Howard
Sharman
Patton
Byrnes
Anyone in that list that shouldn't be, anyone else who should be?
I think only Ross, Gresham and Howard are underperforming. Battle had both good and bad moments the past month, but part of that has been poor match ups - why was he on Toby Greene to begin with?Can we order the most commonly accused underperformers since our bad patch started.
Gresham
Ross
Battle
Howard
Sharman
Patton
Byrnes
Anyone in that list that shouldn't be, anyone else who should be?
The only positive I can take from this game is we helped seperate Hawthorn from Harley Reid that little bit more.
Big one missing from that is Steele. I love him and probably playing with injury, but he is well off from his best. I actually wonder if this is creating down stream effects on the other mids.Can we order the most commonly accused underperformers since our bad patch started.
Gresham
Ross
Battle
Howard
Sharman
Patton
Byrnes
Anyone in that list that shouldn't be, anyone else who should be?
Que?
Wow...Hawks will likely be sanctioned over the racial discrimination case.
Talk that the club will be stripped of draft picks ala Essendon (Drugs) and Carlton (Salary Cap)
Every chance the Hawks are bottoming out without a 1st RDP this year, and possibly next.
‘Reasonably expeditious manner’: AFL hints it could now charge Hawks for breaching league rules
Hawks could face fines, stripping of draft picks as AFL warns of possible fresh chargewww.foxsports.com.au
Wow...
Given the finding of the report, which essentially exonerated the accused, and in the absence of definitive proof of who leaked the report i cant imagine the Hawks would just accept stripping draft picks.
No I agree with this, I’m just not sure how you can justify sanctions if the investigation has been abandoned?Without wandering off, I thought the announcement last night was more an admission by the AFL they couldn't do anything with the processes they had set up, so were left with no choice than to abandon the investigation.
That makes sense from a process POV (**** me im back here talking about process) it probably should be clear when these reviews begin that the clubs investagation doesn’t seek to pursue punishment or compensation but that those avenues are available to complainants shoukd they wish to pursue them.My take on it is that the accusers don't want to follow through with sanctions against Clarkson, Fagan etc through the AFL or as individuals. They have reserved their legal rights to take the club, and therefore Clarkson and co, to court for compensation instead.
Lots of people thinking it's over. I rekon that's way off base.
I'd assume the AFL deal for a resolution included waiving any more public airing of the issues through the media or a court case.
Pure speculation but I think the AFL will hammer the Hawks, the same way they hammered Essendon, in the hope that when the court case plays out they can point to those sanctions and say "We've already punished the people involved". Any punishment for Clarkson and co will be purely financial through the courts. The AFL won't suspend them or pressure the clubs to move them out.
Boy's club and all that...