Game Day Round 12, Port Adelaide v Hawthorn, 1:45pm Sat 3rd June, AO

[Mitchell Madness]

We looked so much lot better once meek was subbed out for Mackenzie.

And reeves proved he can ruck for longer periods of time

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Rubbish. He just kicked poorly early in the year and we played like s**t. Still leading our goal kicking again.

He's missed marks, kicks, fumbled, looked slow, made errors and played worse than the Breust we are used to this season, despite his goal tally. He's looked older this season, that's undeniable.

 

[derp de derp]

Almost got them


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[TDS7]

I'm keen to better understand the handball happy game plan - anyone who understands these things feel free to explain (genuine question!)

Most good defenses in the AFL rely on zoning off down the line and setting up to cover the switch by foot. When done well this is lethal, it stops a team working up with precision. Clarko's cluster, where we pushed our defenders up the ground and funneled the ball wide by zoning off the corridor, then squeezing them and forcing the opposition to kick it down the throats of our interceptors is a prime example of modern AFL defenses.To combat this, you need to move the ball fast and aggressively to "overtake" the zoned area. By running the ball by hand 50 metres you push the zone back, and most clubs can't shift back that far that fast. By going all in on handpassing and opening up both sides of the ground we should be able to use our better kicks to hit up forwards on small tick leads or pop it up over the heads of defenders. The aggressive rush usually puts forward a few metres clear goalside and let's them dictate the contest, either by initiating contact or going into the goals alone. The pies do something similar, but rely more on kicking and going wide on the wings. It works for them because they have some brilliant gut runners throughout the whole ground and know how to get it too their best kicks.

 

[Hawker55]

I feel like he's going to have the occassion blinder and look like he's turned back the clock, but be relatively poor for the majority of the games. Really that's just like all great older players coming to the end of their careers.

There was a moment in the first where his turning circle and time to change direction was very old man.

He’ll have his moments and is definitely still worth his spot but it’s not far off.

It’s like when Hodgey all of a sudden was kicking off the ground a lot because he just couldn’t get down and up in time.

 

[Jazzfan]

Gee loved CMAC, Moore and Mackenzie getting midfield minutes.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

No tackles from Newcombe and MacDonald needs to be addressed.

 

[matey]

Fck Weddle can take a grab!

 

[KermitJagger]

We seem to be able to get one thing working at a time. The forward line makes sense and the midfield stops working, the midfield makes sense and the defense stops working, the defense makes sense and the forward line stops working.

We looked good when we got the ball forward. If we don't concede +20 inside 50s and it's a completely different ball game, unfortunately Port came out absolutely firing with some insane pressure rating and got the jump on us big time. With an older and more experienced midfield unit we weather that better.

 

[theiaofseed]

Hard to judge when the heat is off

Shit call, Hawthorn swung that game by force.

 

[TylerDurden]

It's an absolute win. Were on track for a 150 pt loss. Responded. Showed so much character. I'm flipping proud.

 

[Briar Gold]

Most good defenses in the AFL rely on zoning off down the line and setting up to cover the switch by foot. When done well this is lethal, it stops a team working up with precision. Clarko's cluster, where we pushed our defenders up the ground and funneled the ball wide by zoning off the corridor, then squeezing them and forcing the opposition to kick it down the throats of our interceptors is a prime example of modern AFL defenses.To combat this, you need to move the ball fast and aggressively to "overtake" the zoned area. By running the ball by hand 50 metres you push the zone back, and most clubs can't shift back that far that fast. By going all in on handpassing and opening up both sides of the ground we should be able to use our better kicks to hit up forwards on small tick leads or pop it up over the heads of defenders. The aggressive rush usually puts forward a few metres clear goalside and let's them dictate the contest, either by initiating contact or going into the goals alone. The pies do something similar, but rely more on kicking and going wide on the wings. It works for them because they have some brilliant gut runners throughout the whole ground and know how to get it too their best kicks.

Thanks!

 

[Dewnior]

We looked so much lot better once Lycett meek was subbed out for Mackenzie.

fify

 

[seysearles]

I wouldn’t over react. Port are a really good team. We have lost our structures but the challenge will be to try to recover them in the second half. It’s a good challenge for them. If they can restrict port to 150pts for the game it will be a win of sorts. Everything is a learning experience when you’re developing.

Purses lips in preparation of blowing own trumpet

 

[KermitJagger]

No tackles from Newcombe and MacDonald needs to be addressed.

Yep, Newcombe has runs on the board and was due a down game (though I was very disappointed). Macdonald was recently taken out of the team for not applying himself defensively. Had an okay game but when the ball is moving that easily there needs to be a bit more pressure.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Most good defenses in the AFL rely on zoning off down the line and setting up to cover the switch by foot. When done well this is lethal, it stops a team working up with precision. Clarko's cluster, where we pushed our defenders up the ground and funneled the ball wide by zoning off the corridor, then squeezing them and forcing the opposition to kick it down the throats of our interceptors is a prime example of modern AFL defenses.To combat this, you need to move the ball fast and aggressively to "overtake" the zoned area. By running the ball by hand 50 metres you push the zone back, and most clubs can't shift back that far that fast. By going all in on handpassing and opening up both sides of the ground we should be able to use our better kicks to hit up forwards on small tick leads or pop it up over the heads of defenders. The aggressive rush usually puts forward a few metres clear goalside and let's them dictate the contest, either by initiating contact or going into the goals alone. The pies do something similar, but rely more on kicking and going wide on the wings. It works for them because they have some brilliant gut runners throughout the whole ground and know how to get it too their best kicks.

Really well said.

 

[The Gotham Penguin]

Put him on the wing where he doesn't get hard contact.

Weddle played much better with wingtime.
Looked a much more composed player

Well done young man

 

[westhawk]

We looked so much lot better once meek was subbed out for Mackenzie.

Spot on, don’t like the 2 rucks playing, need the run.

 

[peetoo]

Never mind the result there needs to be an inquiry why the thread isn’t closed?

 

[Stranglers]

Purses lips in preparation of blowing own trumpet

Yeah except we didn't restrict them to 150 points. Bring out the knives.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

A few things swung the game:

• Lycett going off
• Meek off and McKenzie on
• Day going to the backline
• Moore and McKenzie into the midfield
• Weddle turning his game around and taking some speccies

Newcome had his worst game for a while - wasn't sure if they put a lot of work into him or not. Nash also found it a lot harder to get involved.

Just really pleased the team boys worked back into it. Was about to turn it off when we got 95 points down, but the second half was a reminder of how enjoyable it can be to watch a rebuilding team even when we're getting pumped.

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

Ned long doing run throughs

 

[Braidz]

fify

Mackenzie came on and had an instant impact. We were getting smashed before he was subbed on

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

I hope people today took notice of what Cam Mackenzie brings to this team. Class, composure, and vigor. That diving, run-down tackle was reminiscent of Sam Mitchell's against Richmond. That goal he nearly kicked was also quite similar to what Sam Mitchell did a few times in his career. He's a taller Sam Mitchell. We are so lucky to have him.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I hope people today took notice of what Cam Mackenzie brings to this team. Class, composure, and vigor. That diving, run-down tackle was reminiscent of Sam Mitchell's against Richmond. That goal he nearly kicked was also quite similar to what Sam Mitchell did a few times in his career. He's a taller Sam Mitchell. We are so lucky to have him.

He's going to be a special player.