Review Round 13, 2023 - Hawthorn vs. Brisbane Lions

[M Malice]

Fab5 I went with Dunkley, Robertson, Hipwood, Payne and Cameron.

Also thought Wilmot, McCluggage, Ashcroft but in decent efforts.

Bottom5 for me were Rich, Gunston, Daniher, Prior, Berry.... with competition from a few others.
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You can not win games with that many passengers.

 

[M Malice]

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Wonder if Gunston will do a jumper swap with Box Hill later in the year.

Didn't like the look of that after such a bad loss... should have been done in the sheds after the game IMO.

 

[JD888]

Players I’m happy ship off:
Bailey
Berry
Rich
Gunston
Linc
Gardiner

Some are worth currency, some out to pasture. The time has come to bring in younger blood.

Surely too early to be calling time on Bailey & Berry. Only a season or two ago that they were earning weekly plaudits by journos and commentators.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Your Lions have been amazing this year, just an off game for your team. You will bounce back next week for sure. In saying i that thought my Hawks deserved the win.

Well wishes on Hugh McGgluggage, hopefully his injury is not to serious.

My tip... Lions V Pies for GF day 2023.

We have not been amazing this year. Largely average. Hawks deserved the win today but I’ve never seen a worse performance from the Lions. Just awful across the board. Didn’t take much from the Hawks to get up.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Fagan is unlikely to make wholesale changes - he's always been pretty loyal to a core group of players. Ruthlessness need to start from the top. We need a new coach I think.

They gave him a contract extension earlier in the year for some reason.

 

[M Malice]

We have not been amazing this year. Largely average. Hawks deserved the win today but I’ve never seen a worse performance from the Lions. Just awful across the board. Didn’t take much from the Hawks to get up.

I thought for the stage they are at the Hawks were very impressive, they knew what our weakness was and carried out the plan to perfection, a young team on the up.

 

[lionsrules]

Gunston doesn’t deserve to grace the field in lions colours in Amd afl game for the rest of 2023

 

[Brizzys Squizzy]

I've said this before...Fagan has done a great job getting the club to this point, but that's now not good enough. Need to get a proven coach who's played at the top level and know's what it takes to get that extra 10 percent out of a talented group. If the club doesn't even make a phone call...it's kidding itself.

 

[martinson]

This was a serious loss for us .

We're now 8-4 with plenty of losable games coming up.

Internally the blowtorch needs to be applied.

Anyone getting deja vu from last year ?

 

[scoman]

I've said this before...Fagan has done a great job getting the club to this point, but that's now not good enough. Need to get a proven coach who's played at the top level and know's what it takes to get that extra 10 percent out of a talented group. If the club doesn't even make a phone call...it's kidding itself.

Maybe it's actually Mrs. Hardwick that we should be calling?

 

[buttermuffs]

Thaks for the goodwill but I don't think this current group has what it takes.

Just glad the Hawks fans that might think that don’t come in here because that’s definitely not what’s needed.

 

[3KZ is Football]

The writing was on the wall as soon as Fagan’s team was announced. Fagan dropped an in form Lester for an out of form Gardiner and retains Rich, who was beyond putrid against Adelaide.

Me this morning:

“Any chance we don’t ‘turn up’ today and are embarrassed in the same way we were against Port Adelaide and Footscray?”

You can set your watch by loses like today’s.

P.S. Rich had zero tackles again today. Season tally is still TWO tackles.

 

[martinson]

Gunston doesn’t deserve to grace the field in lions colours in Amd afl game for the rest of 2023

I thought he was cooked after 3 games . Can't run or contest.

Just completely gobsmacked at what the Club said this week .

Do they think if we keep talking him up he's going to miraculously come good ?

He came here for a pay check but is his heart really in it ?? Doesn't play like it.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Watching the replay of the incident surely Sicily gets at least 3 weeks. That’s as ugly a sling tackle as you’ll see

 

[Lazza16]

The good thing about footy is there is always next week...plus a good reason to do something productive iso watching all the footy shows

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

Zac Bailey

33

Zac Bailey

Age

25

Ht

182cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

12.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

is indicative of our team at the moment.

The easy option of kicking the ball of the ground rather than putting your head over it & attempting to pick it up appears to be acceptable. Far too often our players take the easy & weak option - defensive running etc. Standards need to be player driven, until this changes we just make up the numbers.

This is beyond the obvious selection issues. Clear distinct lack of leadership at a couple of levels.

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

The writing was on the wall as soon as Fagan’s team was announced. Fagan dropped an in form Lester for an out of form Gardiner and retains Rich, who was beyond putrid against Adelaide.

Me this morning:

“Any chance we don’t ‘turn up’ today and are embarrassed in the same way we were against Port Adelaide and Footscray?”

You can set your watch by loses like today’s.

P.S. Rich had zero tackles again today. Season tally is still TWO tackles.

Yeh Rich is done. He was never quick but his reaction times seem even worse, add to that his left boot is no longer what it was, the time has come at the end of 23.

 

[M Malice]

Yeh Rich is done. He was never quick but his reaction times seem even worse, add to that his left boot is no longer what it was, the time has come at the end of 23.

It is time NOW!

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

It is time NOW!

Well yes but that won’t happen.

 

[BangyBangy]

We need Ross Lyon. What do you think Viceregal ?

 

[BangyBangy]

If we don't have a good start to the cricket today and get a 400+ lead I am going to be very grumpy tomorrow.

 

[Section 5]

Disappointing loss today but aren't they all.
Looked to me like our players turned up expecting a win without putting in an obvious effort to get it done.
That's two interstate games in a row that a very young team turned up to play from the get-go, and our experienced team failed both times.

Also, 6 interstate games for 2 wins & 4 losses. We were favorites in all the 4 losses.
The remaining interstate games will indicate if we are going to be a chance come finals times.
Marvel - Saints, Pies
Optus - Dockers
MCG - Demons

My preseason expectations were to finish top 4 and hopefully that ends up being the case.
Swans in 6 days to redeem ourselves to some extent.

 

[BangyBangy]

I actually haven't watched any of the game. Just got home from work then.

Do I need to put myself through that?

I had mates calling & messaging me all day lol. I felt like I was there anyways

 

[M Malice]

If we don't have a good start to the cricket today and get a 400+ lead I am going to be very grumpy tomorrow.

We need to start a Grumpy Old man clique... must be over 60 and yell at clouds.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Fagan is unlikely to make wholesale changes - he's always been pretty loyal to a core group of players. Ruthlessness need to start from the top. We need a new coach I think.

Probably drop Robertson