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Autopsy Round 2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Discussion
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Fair point but given our inconsistent efforts with pretty much first pick teams in recent seasons I'm not convinced. We lack a mental toughness successful teams possess.
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Getting over this misogyny to and fro.
It doesn't matter if you think a player is as weak as you perceive women to be. It's not a justifiable comment because you are using it in a negative context. You can't use gay terms to denigrate. You can't use derogatory words for the disabled to describe a dumb act on the football field.
Nothing wrong with saying a player is mentally or physically weak. No real need to compare that weakness to anybody that might take offense. Nothing wrong with saying a player lacks footy smarts or is uncoordinated. No need to compare them to someone who suffers from a genuine affliction in a derogatory sense.
I totally agree it's a turn of phrase and is not meant to cause offense. However ... it does. Offense is in the eye of the beholder and you can't tell someone not to be offended because you aren't. I've said it before ... I've said lots of things before. When someone tells me they are offended, I respect that and make an effort to find another way to say what I want to say.
Now let's move on, let's stop calling each other out and making personal remarks. Enough already.
It doesn't matter if you think a player is as weak as you perceive women to be. It's not a justifiable comment because you are using it in a negative context. You can't use gay terms to denigrate. You can't use derogatory words for the disabled to describe a dumb act on the football field.
Nothing wrong with saying a player is mentally or physically weak. No real need to compare that weakness to anybody that might take offense. Nothing wrong with saying a player lacks footy smarts or is uncoordinated. No need to compare them to someone who suffers from a genuine affliction in a derogatory sense.
I totally agree it's a turn of phrase and is not meant to cause offense. However ... it does. Offense is in the eye of the beholder and you can't tell someone not to be offended because you aren't. I've said it before ... I've said lots of things before. When someone tells me they are offended, I respect that and make an effort to find another way to say what I want to say.
Now let's move on, let's stop calling each other out and making personal remarks. Enough already.
Be that as it is the underlying issue is that the team does not play to support its stars like he good teams do. And that this weakness was identified around 5 seasons ago is an indictment on how the team is being coached, managed and developed.
It's been said that Mick plays favourites and in this context we could assume Laidler wasn't one of them.
I wonder what our performances would have been like if we'd had an unfit, injury prone, hospital visit, off season?
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Guess that rules Geoffrey E. out as his financial position is precarious and in any case I couldn't see Gabi being able to run the Board meetings.
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Garlett was not a free agent. Free agency is a free shot at a good player without having to give up a good player or good draft picks. Most free agents are looking to keep their chance at success open.
Let's hug it out blueballs.
We're shit,let's just celebrate our shitness together huh?.
I apologise ok?
The Malthouse tenure is starting reek of the Pagan era. Got both well credentialed coaches well past their best, and have come to the club on massive pay deals with irrelevant/stale gameplans and very little ability to adapt or evolve. I just cannot see what Malthouse is trying to do with our list. This is rock-bottom for me as a 30+yr supporter of the club.
They played an AFL Academy side full of 18 year olds and only won by nine points so I wouldnt get too carried away.
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A win's a win.
Mauling them would not have been very good anyway. It would have made them look unprepared for the drafts. I enjoy to see young talent getting in and exciting clubs.
Yep.
I'll be ****ed if the players had any idea what gameplan they were meant to be effecting last night.
As far as I could deduce, the 'plan' consisted of:
1. Shepherd the man on the mark in the backline;
2. Ensure that there is a yawning chasm through the middle of the ground for the opposition to waltz through whenever they get the urge;
3. (by extension of '2') Throw the backline under the bus at every opportunity.
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Each time a mark is taken in our defensive 50, all our players immediately look to someone else with 'who was supposed to be there!?' look. They don't know who's supposed to do what.
I don't think the players know wtf is going on most the time. Simpson is the best to watch when he is on the mark, gives scathing looks at everyone around him and yanks out his mouth guard and points at people.
I don't think the players know wtf is going on most the time. Simpson is the best to watch when he is on the mark, gives scathing looks at everyone around him and yanks out his mouth guard and points at people.
Somewhat agree.
I don't think Simmo has long.
But sheesh,for a skinny that had doughnuts for possessions in his first game,I'd happily walk into any battlefield anywhere with him.
He's a guide for our young folk now.
Yeah, I can't understand when people say it's all the players fault and that Mick is the man moving forward.
I admit our list certainly isn't stellar, needs lots of work. But it's not nearly as bad as how we're playing.
The players just look totally lost, confused, demotivated. It's obvious from how quickly they drop their shoulders when things start to turn that they just don't have any belief in the game plan. On top of that there's no on-field leadership to try to steady the ship or curb that slide when it occurs.
I've said it before and will say it again. The reason we are so bad at the moment is not down to one problem. It's not just the players. It's not just the coaches. It's not just the gameplan. It's not just the on-field leadership. It's a bit (or a lot) of each of these factors, and it adds up to a big bucket of shit when you have to sit through a game of it.
This will take some time to get right and we need the right people in senior off-field positions to start moving the pieces around. The trouble is I'm not sure we even have those right people at the moment.
Our midfield has seemingly gone backwards but let's remember we only won 7 games last year and losing McLean and Robinson will bite.
Rogers did actually address our lack of run by bolstering our onball division over the past few drafts. We have an untapped VFL side consisting of Buckley, Byrne, Whiley, Holman, Dick, Graham, Boekhorst, Walsh, Gowers, DVR etc just crying out for an opportunity.
too early to play the kids?
(The biggest hole at the moment is the ruck but we can't do anything about that until Kreuzer makes a miraculous recovery or we nab a player for next year)
There's probably 100 things that we need to do better on the field, but there is one blindingly obvious issue - our leaders and most experienced players are playing terrible footy. It's hardly a surprise we are dropping out of matches when Gibbs is burning the ball constantly, Murphy isn't hurting the opposition at all, Judd is getting tagged out because he is the only one dominating, Henderson isn't kicking bags, Simpson is well below his best and having minimal impact, Yarran isn't getting much of the ball, Walker hasn't even played yet and our defenders are getting bombarded because of all this.
The senior players need to lift several gears if we want to even be competitive.
Docherty has lifted his game, now we need to see some more second-tier guys come along for the ride with him too.
It seriously feels like we have four or five in-form players and the rest are headless chooks.
The senior players need to lift several gears if we want to even be competitive.
Docherty has lifted his game, now we need to see some more second-tier guys come along for the ride with him too.
It seriously feels like we have four or five in-form players and the rest are headless chooks.
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All good CC misery does like company and right now I need all the hugs I can get .... believe me I am actually a very optimistic person just tears me up what our club has done to itself the last 15 years.
I think a lot of it is mental ... we have just recruited some very soft players. Growing up,with the success we had just makes it all the harder.
Just feels like the club couldn't of done any worse if it tried as hard as it could to fail, which obviously it didn't.
I mean seriously have you ever seen such a leaderless bunch of self centered individuals?
I think Gibbs with his unmanly hairdo and his pink slippers sums up the team perfectly.
More interested in how they look rather than how they do it.
We really need to take a flamethrower to the place and rebuild from the ground up ... there is a cancer at the club that needs to be killed and we just have to start from scratch with a whole new outlook.
It feels to me that the "FEV" attitude did not leave with him leaving and that some of that attitude stayed behind with those that remained at the club and were taught or a better word influenced by him ... too much FEV still in the older members of the club.
Mind you I could be wrong. I hope I am.
Nothing to see here. Move on, move on...
Not sure Holman is up to
It just yet...he's tough and hard at it but still hasn't done enough to warrant talk of selection...DVR played well yday could have easily kicked 4 missed couple easy ones
