Toast Round 2 = Western Bulldogs 70-76 Collingwood

[Apex36]

The more I see it the less I feel it is. However, I can’t confidently say he’s ok because they can be unpredictable

Well, Crisps want even reported on being looked at and astonishingly Lobb got off Scot free too…

 

[Apex36]

Weren’t that bad tbh

The vast majority were there. Might have been 2-3 contentious ones, the last one against Dale in particular.

 

[barrackers]

All free kicks were there except the Beau htb and Dale deliberate

From the opposite angle live at the ground it looked like Dale paddled the footy over the line, in which case it would be a clear deliberate. I haven’t seen a replay from that angle.

 

[manicpie]

From the opposite angle live at the ground it looked like Dale paddled the footy over the line, in which case it would be a clear deliberate. I haven’t seen a replay from that angle.

We deserved every one of them

 

[Pie eyed]

I'll watch the replay befire I itemise the ones the umps missed as well.

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[Pistol Night]

Why do we never hear this much arse chaffing when other teams get this many frees. Sooky campaigners

 

[brysie]

The media narrative was geared towards the Dogs and their 100th anniversary all night. Unfortunately that leached into the analysis, during and post-game.

What would actually assist everyone would be for someone (preferably a former umpire) to analyse each free kick, as that's the only way you can determine whether the 33 free kicks we received were 'unfair' or 'inequitable'.

The other more helpful analysis would be to dissect the game and call out incidents that weren't whistled, like Lobb's tackle on Elliot in the first quarter that looked high, or Dogs players dropping the ball in the forward 50. Equally, Elliot flew for a few marks which I would've paid as unrealistic attempts.

 

[MoreMoore]

The media narrative was geared towards the Dogs and their 100th anniversary all night. Unfortunately that leached into the analysis, during and post-game.

What would actually assist everyone would be for someone (preferably a former umpire) to analyse each free kick, as that's the only way you can determine whether the 33 free kicks we received were 'unfair' or 'inequitable'.

The other more helpful analysis would be to dissect the game and call out incidents that weren't whistled, like Lobb's tackle on Elliot in the first quarter that looked high, or Dogs players dropping the ball in the forward 50. Equally, Elliot flew for a few marks which I would've paid as unrealistic attempts.

No attempt by Elliot or Bobby is unrealistic
Wash your mouth out

 

[brysie]

No attempt by Elliot or Bobby is unrealistic
Wash your mouth out

Tell that to AFL house.

The same could probably be said for Jeremy Howe.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Bit of talk about, to paraphrase " just bank the lucky to get away with win".

Ok, wasn't the prettiest footy, but that was due to pressure rating from both teams, all night, there was zero relent.

Probably some sort of record.

Once again we kicked poorly in crucial moments and STILL ground out the win, even against the oppo fairytale. Which they threw the kitchen sink at.

This is a win to be celebrated, not swept under the rug "ooh we got away with " .

Yeah OK, we're better than that , and we got work to do.

But make no mistake, this is a win defying the script and the footy gods. Gritty and determined never say die.

 

[Magnanimous]

The vast majority were there. Might have been 2-3 contentious ones, the last one against Dale in particular.

Agree, our intensity and forcing them into tackle frees etc.
We were robbed in the first, at least 2-3 goals of theirs from bullshit decisions, too.


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[Jmac3542]

3 games in 12 days, and now a quick rest, after a poor effort mainly late against the Giants we can be very happy with our start, judging by some other results. It’s a brutal game. It’s a marathon and it’s only March. Great to bank a couple of early wins.

 

[Fat Jesus]

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

The media narrative was geared towards the Dogs and their 100th anniversary all night. Unfortunately that leached into the analysis, during and post-game.

What would actually assist everyone would be for someone (preferably a former umpire) to analyse each free kick, as that's the only way you can determine whether the 33 free kicks we received were 'unfair' or 'inequitable'.

The other more helpful analysis would be to dissect the game and call out incidents that weren't whistled, like Lobb's tackle on Elliot in the first quarter that looked high, or Dogs players dropping the ball in the forward 50. Equally, Elliot flew for a few marks which I would've paid as unrealistic attempts.

I feel like we get enough analysis of the controversial free kicks during the game when watching on TV.

I think they had tried a rules expert during live commentary and he did occasionally shed some light on some interpretations but mostly agreed with the umpire’s decisions.

Generally think too much is made of umpire decisions. Last night there were 47 free kicks given and there were a combined 122 turnovers by both teams. I reckon the turnovers had a bigger influence on the outcome.

I’ll still yell at the TV at times but usually poor decisions by players are more influential than those made by umpires.

 

[brysie]

I feel like we get enough analysis of the controversial free kicks during the game when watching on TV.

I think they had tried a rules expert during live commentary and he did occasionally shed some light on some interpretations but mostly agreed with the umpire’s decisions.

Generally think too much is made of umpire decisions. Last night there were 47 free kicks given and there were a combined 122 turnovers by both teams. I reckon the turnovers had a bigger influence on the outcome.

I’ll still yell at the TV at times but usually poor decisions by players are more influential than those made by umpires.

I'd only get the analysis after the game. I'm definitely not advocating for analysis during the game as the commentators and 'analysts' are no better than you and me.

And when I say after the game, I really only mean when there's some 'controversy' like there was the other night. The media narrative was strong, but it would be nice for someone to deconstruct the commentary and present a more sober analysis to extinguish some of the hyperbole and 'narrative' surrounding what was, objectively, an outlier.

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

I'd only get the analysis after the game. I'm definitely not advocating for analysis during the game as the commentators and 'analysts' are no better than you and me.

And when I say after the game, I really only mean when there's some 'controversy' like there was the other night. The media narrative was strong, but it would be nice for someone to deconstruct the commentary and present a more sober analysis to extinguish some of the hyperbole and 'narrative' surrounding what was, objectively, an outlier.

Yeah the commentary is full of hyperbole. I like the deconstructions offered here as you get both sober and not so sober analysis.

 

[brysie]

Yeah the commentary is full of hyperbole. I like the deconstructions offered here as you get both sober and not so sober analysis.

Haha - I almost never post in the gameday thread for that very reason.

McStay has already been lined up against a wall and shot - not sure how he's going to get up for Carlton, but at least he has the bye to help him.

 

[FromTheBoundaryLine]

Haha - I almost never post in the gameday thread for that very reason.

McStay has already been lined up against a wall and shot - not sure how he's going to get up for Carlton, but at least he has the bye to help him.

I’m too busy watching to post on the game day thread. McStay will be fine, put it behind him and slaughter the Blues

 

[brysie]

I’m too busy watching to post on the game day thread. McStay will be fine, put it behind him and slaughter the Blues

Yeh, I'm either at the game or watching it.

I'm a glass half empty person when it comes to footy, so every game seems like a danger game. The positive though for McStay though is that, although he had a dirty night, we got the 4 points. Move on and prepare for what is likely going to be a huge challenge against Carlton.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

I reckon we payed unders for him. Chances are pick 14 would be slugging it out in the VFL

Pick 14 was prime GAJ apparently

 

[Pie eyed]

The media narrative was geared towards the Dogs and their 100th anniversary all night. Unfortunately that leached into the analysis, during and post-game.

What would actually assist everyone would be for someone (preferably a former umpire) to analyse each free kick, as that's the only way you can determine whether the 33 free kicks we received were 'unfair' or 'inequitable'.

The other more helpful analysis would be to dissect the game and call out incidents that weren't whistled, like Lobb's tackle on Elliot in the first quarter that looked high, or Dogs players dropping the ball in the forward 50. Equally, Elliot flew for a few marks which I would've paid as unrealistic attempts.

Razor Ray will no doubt touch on this on AFL360 this week. If he doesn't you can assume the AFL would have asked the issue be swept under the carpet.

 

[Magnanimous]

I feel like we get enough analysis of the controversial free kicks during the game when watching on TV.

I think they had tried a rules expert during live commentary and he did occasionally shed some light on some interpretations but mostly agreed with the umpire’s decisions.

Generally think too much is made of umpire decisions. Last night there were 47 free kicks given and there were a combined 122 turnovers by both teams. I reckon the turnovers had a bigger influence on the outcome.

I’ll still yell at the TV at times but usually poor decisions by players are more influential than those made by umpires.

Hard to fathom how much a better spectacle the NRL is with one umpire.
The sheer amount of umpires is ludicrous.
Just introduces so many more ways for in consistency, over zealous umpiring, angst etc.
I wonder if 2 field umpires, 2 boundary umpires and 2 goal umpire would be better.

Also the rule tinkering and rule of the week style also needs to go.

I know they want the perfect product, but just seems the way they go about manipulation and interpretation is just too much.

If you want to play AFL, there's a risk.
Just like any other sport or lots of activities one can do.

Wish they would just let our great game be great once again.

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[Anzacday]

All free kicks were there except the Beau htb and Dale deliberate

I thought the high on Cameron at the CB was lucky.
He slipped over.
At least 3 of them would/should be counted as marks anyway.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Well, Crisps want even reported on being looked at and astonishingly Lobb got off Scot free too…

Jason Cloke missed a grand final doing exactly what Lobb did.

Wasn’t even a 50 which would have been a certain goal from 10 out. That umpiring mistake alone makes up for the deliberate against Dale

 

[Eric Shin]

I reckon we payed unders for him. Chances are pick 14 would be slugging it out in the VFL

Pick 14 ended up being Jonty Faull. Pretty sure he's nursing a back injury.


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