Autopsy Round 3, 2024: Essendon v St.Kilda

[Miha]

Perhaps we believed in our publicity too much & too soon after the Collingwood game.

This St Kilda team has done virtually NOTHING of note yet!

Yes we are faster.
Where was the run & carry however in the last quarter when we needed it?

It breaks my heart to support this club sometimes.

Happy to at least have a game plan we’re working towards. We’re going in slightly younger than planned it’ll bode well for them, we had nobody coming through the youth ranks 3 years ago.

 

[Miha]

Brace yourselves for Windy copping a week or two thanks to a head high bump on Durham.

Bloody hell, so Windy, Marshall and Hill out. Our injury record is abysmal

 

[Dr Spaceman]

I would be a much happier person if I could stop watching football but I can’t so here I am disappointed again and living in hope that next week will be a better result.

So many of us feel this way.

 

[beside the seaside]

At the ground I liked the look of Hastie. Really good size, took a nice mark. Very brief look but didn't seem out of place, one to watch for sure. Hope he gets another crack with a full game.

 

[70s sainter]

thought I’d watch a little bit of the replay as I saw it live last night unfortunately. Turned it on with 5 mins left in the 2nd q.
Re Bonner - wow talk about a coach /team killer
In 5 mins he 1. Kicked out on the full.
2. Should’ve been done holding the ball
3. Dropped an easy mark in the center square which came straight back in ess 50
4.kicked to Wilkie which was marked by ess inside 50
5. Kick down the line to a contest that we lost .( not his fault of course)
What a shocker

 

[Saints TV]

 

[bergholt]

Brace yourselves for Windy copping a week or two thanks to a head high bump on Durham.

Oh shit really? I haven’t watched it again since seeing it live at the ground but I thought it was Seb’s tackle which put him into the ground.

 

[BrutThough]

Oh s**t really? I haven’t watched it again since seeing it live at the ground but I thought it was Seb’s tackle which put him into the ground.

I've watched it 100 times and I cant see how it's a suspendible act.
Windy was pushed by the Essendon player into the path of the play then he tried his best to halt his momentum.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I've watched it 100 times and I cant see how it's a suspendible act.
Windy was pushed by the Essendon player into the path of the play then he tried his best to halt his momentum.

I think that'll be a week or two. Pendles or Danger it's a football incident but our reality is different.

 

[BrutThough]

I think that'll be a week or two. Pendles or Danger it's a football incident but our reality is different.

Back to the tribunal we go.

 

[StFly]

Oh, that, yeah, game is straight F'd if we're banning blokes for getting shoved into a ball after a fresh CC.

No prob with a free being called as derp high, but that's a reach if suspension. What's his choice? Getting a head straight to his groin rather than turning?

 

[beside the seaside]

I've watched it 100 times and I cant see how it's a suspendible act.
Windy was pushed by the Essendon player into the path of the play then he tried his best to halt his momentum.

Hmm. Interesting one. Could definitely be gone but there's so little in it.

 

[stfan]

Windy was pushed by the Essendon player into the path of the play then he tried his best to halt his momentum.

Looks to me to have been not been that forceful a push and would not have really affected Windy too much.



We need the camera angle from the other side to see exactly where contact was made.

But from that footage with Windy turning his body to impact, if head high contact was actually made as it appears to be then under this year's interpretation Windy will get suspended.

It looks to be at least as bad as King's and probably worse.

To get off you really need to be contacting straight on and at least attempting to win the ball. If a player "braces" or "turns" his body then so far this year you go if the head is involved.

 

[BrutThough]

Looks to me to have been not been that forceful a push and would not have really affected Windy too much.



We need the camera angle from the other side to see exactly where contact was made.

But from that footage with Windy turning his body to impact, if head high contact was actually made as it appears to be then under this year's interpretation Windy will get suspended.

It looks to be at least as bad as King's and probably worse.

To get off you really need to be contacting straight on and at least attempting to win the ball. If a player "braces" or "turns" his body then so far this year you go if the head is involved.

It wasn't a big push, but I think we could argue it impacted the speed which he approached the contest and impacted what he was able to do in the split second.

I still think there needs to be room in a contact sport for accidents, which this was. We also dont know if this even caused the concussion given he stayed on the ground for the rest of the quarter, seemingly was fine for half time and then was involved in that tackle with Seb, which also involved accidental contact to his head from Sharman's knee.

 

[Ads734]

This has been an issue for a decade.

It only takes one win for some blokes to get ahead of themselves.


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Such lazy crap analysis. Based on what do you think the players got ‘ahead of themselves’. Old fashioned straw man thinking.

 

[stfan]

It wasn't a big push, but I think we could argue it impacted the speed which he approached the contest and impacted what he was able to do in the split second.

I still think there needs to be room in a contact sport for accidents, which this was. We also dont know if this even caused the concussion given he stayed on the ground for the rest of the quarter, seemingly was fine for half time and then was involved in that tackle with Seb, which also involved accidental contact to his head from Sharman's knee.

I hope you are right, but I think the nail in the coffin for Windy is how he turned his body.

King actually turned his less, but that was enough to suspend him. And this player was more badly affected than the one King impacted.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Oh, that, yeah, game is straight F'd if we're banning blokes for getting shoved into a ball after a fresh CC.

No prob with a free being called as derp high, but that's a reach if suspension. What's his choice? Getting a head straight to his groin rather than turning?

I think we'll find they'll say there were 2 movements. Windy braces then sticks his bum out slightly and catches the player on the top of his scone. That's what l see anyway, and if there was a concussion they'll slap him with a suspension on principle.

 

[stfan]

I think we'll find they'll say there were 2 movements. Windy braces then sticks his bum out slightly and catches the player on the top of his scone. That's what l see anyway, and if there was a concussion they'll slap him with a suspension on principle.

Yes that is how I see it too. Unless another camera angle is more favourable then sadly I think he will go.

 

[malevu]

Probably already posted but Bonner's turnovers was the most by an individual player since 2012.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Yes that is how I see it too. Unless another camera angle is more favourable then sadly I tjink he will go.

It's reasonable to argue that Windy had no alternative but once the suspension is issued by the MRO you're already guilty and 90% of the way down the toilet. The King suspension shows the MRO will hit you for a minimal incident where the recipient suffers no ill effects, so l can't see how there will not be a suspension handed down here.

 

[Jade Buddha]

The judgement of good captaincy and leadership is perhaps one of the most overrated , irrelevant and impossible to quantify things.

It’s so subjective, no way to ever know if it’s the club culture or the leader.

Leadership isn’t though

 

[70s sainter]

How about we just make every player take 2 weeks off at their choice this year and then not actually suspend them for playing football fairly the rest of the year . Saves all this crap.

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Such lazy crap analysis. Based on what do you think the players got ‘ahead of themselves’. Old fashioned straw man thinking.

Thanks Ads.

My analysis is based on what the club has actually said in the past (during both the Cho & Ratts eras) & what RTB said in his presser.

You can stick with your new age moisturiser group think.

Apology with a big red white & black bow by mid week thanks.


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[Ads734]

Thanks Ads.

My analysis is based on what the club has actually said in the past (during both the Cho & Ratts eras) & what RTB said in his presser.

You can stick with your new age moisturiser group think.

Apology with a big red white & black bow by mid week thanks.


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Nah i think even for Ross or most coaches it’s crap analysis. ‘Oh the players got ahead of themselves’ the players ‘didn’t take the opposition seriously’

Blame the skills, blame the decision making but seriously it was not the ‘players got big heads and thought it would be an easy win’

 

[saintmike65]

Should play Campbell against teams with two decent rucks!!

No…he’s not an AFL standard ruckman