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Lol, clueless. Judd yes. The others, wrong.
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Round 3:- Blues V Bombers pre match discussion
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Lol, clueless. Judd yes. The others, wrong.
thylacine60
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Look harder.
Well good for you. lol. Don't take this the wrong way, but I doubt anyone really envies the Dons current list. It's a bit of a mess. You don't have a midfield and your defense is the worst in the AFL i.e. most points against in 2008. Fact. Even the Dees defense performed better than the Dons last year. You'll finish bottom 4 this year and probably the next as well.
I bought $26 tickets to this game, thinking it was an away game when my membership gets me in for free...
**** me, I'm an idiot.
**** me, I'm an idiot.
Very even match-ups across the park. Have to remember that when it comes to our 2 clubs, ladder position and form rarely comes into the thinking as to who might win.
Hille/Ryder seem to have the Kruezer/Jacobs ruck combination covered well enough.
Defence of both sides looks good. Goalkicking doesn't seem to be a problem either.
I think many Blues fans perhaps under-rate the influence Watson has on a match - his ability to win clearances and work with Lovett, Stanton, the returning McVeigh and newcomer Hocking sees him as being a big factor in the match for Essendon and will need to be tagged somewhere along the line.
Is going to be only 1 goal either way at the end of it.
Well good for you. lol. Don't take this the wrong way, but I doubt anyone really envy's the Dons current list. It's a bit of a mess. You don't have a midfield and your defense is the worst in the AFL i.e. most points against in 2008. Fact. Even the Dees defense performed better than the Dons last year. You'll finish bottom 4 this year and probably the next as well.
I'm not really concerned with what others think of the Dons list, they are not familiar with it so do not rate it.
Back to the old "most points against in 2008", Carlton finished outside the top 8 in 2008 so does that mean you will finished outside the top 8 again in 2009? Silly theory. We're currently in the bottom half for "most points against" in 2009 - THIS season.
Essendon will not finish bottom 4, they haven't for the past 2 seasons and they will not finish in the bottom 4 in 2009. Our team will improve as you expect Carlton to improve. Carlton have played teams that have been loose checking, something Essendon have worked on as we were unaccountable in 2008, resulting in "most points against in 2008", we are now known as a defensive unit and Carlton's lack of accountability and lack of defensive skills have yet to be exposed - but will be Saturday night.
I bought $26 tickets to this game, thinking it was an away game when my membership gets me in for free...
**** me, I'm an idiot.
I am sorry but that is funny. You silly boy.
A challenge I am happy to take up.
Based on the teams for Round 2:
Carlton: Ave. 68.2 games per player - Essendon: Ave. 79 games per player
Carlton: Ave. age = 23 yrs 5 mths - Essendon: 24.0 yrs.
I bought $26 tickets to this game, thinking it was an away game when my membership gets me in for free...
**** me, I'm an idiot.
How'd you get $26 tickets??? When I looked ("ticketmaster illiterate" mind you) I could only see $43 tickets.
Concession...
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Very true Pazza, but i think the game will be won in the Midfield where we clearly have the edge.
I would be very dissapointed if we didnt beat you guys this week as i see our list at the current time far superior and only a troll can say that it isnt.
Well good for you. lol. Don't take this the wrong way, but I doubt anyone really envies the Dons current list. It's a bit of a mess. You don't have a midfield and your defense is the worst in the AFL i.e. most points against in 2008. Fact. Even the Dees defense performed better than the Dons last year. You'll finish bottom 4 this year and probably the next as well.
Yes because points against purely rests with the defense?
This year, Our defense looks like being made up primarily of Hurley, Daniher and Pears. They played very few games between them last year. Fact.
Our defense is significantly different to last years, Fletcher and Slats the only real constants. Fact.
But hey, we had the most points kicked against us in 2008.
It probably is..but, games aren't won on paper normally.
I refer to the post I made regarding Watson and his importance. I think I am right in saying in terms of centre clearances, the Hille/Watson ruck/ruck-rover combination got more centre clearances in 2008 than any other combination going around. Watson's form in 2009 has seen him in the best in both games and probably can't be dismissed lightly.
I think that people salivate at seeing Murphy, Judd, Gibbs, Stevens and Hadley in Carlton's midfield. Perhaps fair enough. But, that isn't to say that Watson, Lovett, Stanton, McVeigh and Hocking aren't bad either FWIW. Perhaps it doesn't have the big names - I'll concede that, but, it is getting results and has the full backing of the coaching staff to continue working together to get results.
Was almost tempted to work this out, glad I didn't
Figured Lucas/Lloyd/Fletch would push us well and truly over the top.
Haha nice try. That doesn't mean you have more inexperienced players than Essendon.
That's like saying Crawford 305 games, Rioli 27 games and Renouff 10 games (Total 342 games /3 players = 114 games) are more experienced than Wiggins 105 games, Simpson 89 games and Waite 108 games (Total 302 games / 3 players = 101 games).
Quickly looking through the sides, both teams had 8 under 22 year olds play on the weekend - both are fairly even in terms of experience at the bottom end.
Is it our fault that your coaching staff want to continue playing 30+ year old players & that one of those 30+ year olds is Essendon's best player (kind of reminds you of Richo at Richmond)?
Just in case you have any doubts, our team for both Rounds 1 & 2 contained 11 players with less than 50 games experience, while Essendon's Round 2 team contained 9 players with less than 50 games experience. Fascinating stuff, isn't it?
Haha, I'll pay that. I was wrong.
Still, 808 of those games were played by Lloyd, Lucas and Fletcher combined. I doubt you had 7 players under 10 games. Our team has a few old guys and alot of raw kids. Yours are more in the middle. That was the point I was trying to make.
A key to Carlton winning will be stopping Lovett and Winderlich. They both are lightning quick and use the ball well. Russell could possibly tag Lovett. Russell has good speed and endurance.
Defensive matchups:
Setanta- Lloyd
Thornton- Lucas
Bower- Neagle
Waite- Ryder
Johnson- Monfries
Joseph- Davey
Hopefully Ryder will play in the backline so that will release Waite to play loose as he has done so well in the first two rounds.
Defensive matchups:
Setanta- Lloyd
Thornton- Lucas
Bower- Neagle
Waite- Ryder
Johnson- Monfries
Joseph- Davey
Hopefully Ryder will play in the backline so that will release Waite to play loose as he has done so well in the first two rounds.
So Essendon are known as a defensive unit & Carlton have a lack of accountability. Yet Essendon have played last year's 13th & 14th placed teams (both will be down there again this year), while Carlton have played last year's 9th & 10th placed teams & have conceded less points than Essendon, while at the same time scoring 94 more points than Essendon. Are you Irish?
At the risk of sounding repetitive, it's really sort of a half Essendon/half Bendigo team that's done so poorly against the two teams we've faced so far. The players who are actually in our 22 have been pretty good defensively though.
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Ha dont make me laugh. You guys are still hurting that you had first pick ahead of us and you chose Rawlings as a key forward that didnt want to play for you and turned out to be a total dud, instead of taking Stevens on the free market. Stevens is not only a better mid than anyone on the Bombers list including McVeigh, he is a better mid than anyone on yours, except for Cooney.
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Then why do all the betting agents/bookies have you 4th favourite for the wooden spoon.
If you;re not concerned what people think why are you posting on the Carlton board. You;re worried...and deluded. Suggest you get your facts right.
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