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What’s McAdam got to do with anything?
I had some respect for your position a few weeks ago, but with this deliberate obtuseness you're just showing yourself to be a weasel.

We should put club allegiances aside and agree that not giving concussion tests to players who cop a forceful blow to the head is bad, right? Wasn't that your position a few weeks ago? An admirable position, pity you're too gutless to stick to it.
 
I had some respect for your position a few weeks ago, but with this deliberate obtuseness you're just showing yourself to be a weasel.

We should put club allegiances aside and agree that not giving concussion tests to players who cop a forceful blow to the head is bad, right? Wasn't that your position a few weeks ago? An admirable position, pity you're too gutless to stick to it.

He was a weasel the whole time. Nobody in the history of bigfooty has gone to their main rival's board and posted earnestly about a potential scandal in the manner he did.
 
A shoulder to jaw bump that was forceful enough to break said jaw warranted a concussion test.

Maybe Olsen who can’t stop whinging about compensation over an umpiring error should just be thankful they didn’t get a $100k fine and their club trashed in the media for a week over that mcAdam incident.

Maybe the Keays point was an act of the footy gods. So many crows fans that rode into this thread on their high horse after a showdown win but said nothing about the mcAdam incident, getting their rightful dog up them.

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I had some respect for your position a few weeks ago, but with this deliberate obtuseness you're just showing yourself to be a weasel.

We should put club allegiances aside and agree that not giving concussion tests to players who cop a forceful blow to the head is bad, right? Wasn't that your position a few weeks ago? An admirable position, pity you're too gutless to stick to it.
Oh he sticks to it when it suits his argument if it’s evidence of Camry crows incompetence well then that’s different

Absolute lightweight, McAdams cheekbone is broken ffs you mean to tell me he wasn’t concussed ? riiiight
 
I had some respect for your position a few weeks ago, but with this deliberate obtuseness you're just showing yourself to be a weasel.

We should put club allegiances aside and agree that not giving concussion tests to players who cop a forceful blow to the head is bad, right? Wasn't that your position a few weeks ago? An admirable position, pity you're too gutless to stick to it.

What actually is the issue?
 

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And let’s be clear, some of you blokes clearly don’t understand my position which remains unchanged

And as your moderators made it clear I was to leave the discussion, so I did.

If you’re going to tag me in, at least have the wherewithal to spell out specifically what you’re trying to say to me

But it sure as **** ain’t clear
 
And let’s be clear, some of you blokes clearly don’t understand my position which remains unchanged

And as your moderators made it clear I was to leave the discussion, so I did.

If you’re going to tag me in, at least have the wherewithal to spell out specifically what you’re trying to say to me

But it sure as **** ain’t clear
I'll sum it up.. you are a dickhead.
 
And let’s be clear, some of you blokes clearly don’t understand my position which remains unchanged

And as your moderators made it clear I was to leave the discussion, so I did.

If you’re going to tag me in, at least have the wherewithal to spell out specifically what you’re trying to say to me

But it sure as **** ain’t clear
OMFG

If a players cheekbone is broken via a shoulder to the head and the offending player is suspended for 2 weeks do you think the injured player should receive a HIA test

Yes

Or

No

You w***er
 
OMFG

If a players cheekbone is broken via a shoulder to the head and the offending player is suspended for 2 weeks do you think the injured player should receive a HIA test

Yes

Or

No

You w***er

you are aware that the cynical thing to do was pull him off for a test, as the umpire declared tex was closest man to him and would have taken the shot for goal? Not Murphy or Laird, Tex!

If there were competitive conflicts getting in the way he would have been pulled off for a test

But yes, absolutely comparable. Well done

Also, if you’d like to point to the specific compulsory actions of the protocol that were expressly ignored then might be relevant too.

Obviously you’ll not understand or agree, that’s a given, but there are no similarities here

Maybe you want to argue that he should have been tested - I might not disagree - but none of the surrounding issues or situation have any relevance or overlap to the previous matters

1. There should be independent specialists
2. Club doctors are put in unfair positions
3. Sometimes extreme situations can bring those unfair conflicts to a head (like taking 2 players off at once) which places all sorts of pressure on the club doctor
4. That extreme situation led your doctor to ignore the protocol which was explicit in what must happen
5. It’s not clear what other pressure he was under but the current rules put him in a very difficult position and he chose to ignore the protocol

Gurning McAdam over and over doesn’t make the situations similar

Heck, competitive pressures would have led to Tex taking that shot for goal.

but anyway, a good faith discussion here isn’t possible so I’m going to leave you to it
 
It actually exposes how fake people are especially Crows fans that pretended they cared for the wellbeing of Aliir and Jones. Like zero check up to see how they are a week post incident. The same ones that booed Schulz off after he almost lost an eye. The same ones that boo Wingard and JHF because "reasons".
 
4. That extreme situation led your doctor to ignore the protocol which was explicit in what must happen

What's the protocol and how does it apply to Aliir and Jones, but not a guy who had his cheekbone broken by an opponent's shoulder?

You made a lot of posts in this thread about Aliir and Jones, and this seems to be the first one you're making about McAdam despite fairly similar circumstances (A guy received a heavy blow to the head and didn't have a concussion test)

It's not a big stretch to deduce that your concern wasn't for the welfare of Aliir, because if so you'd have expressed the same concern for McAdam.
 
you are aware that the cynical thing to do was pull him off for a test, as the umpire declared tex was closest man to him and would have taken the shot for goal? Not Murphy or Laird, Tex!

If there were competitive conflicts getting in the way he would have been pulled off for a test

But yes, absolutely comparable. Well done

Also, if you’d like to point to the specific compulsory actions of the protocol that were expressly ignored then might be relevant too.

Obviously you’ll not understand or agree, that’s a given, but there are no similarities here

Maybe you want to argue that he should have been tested - I might not disagree - but none of the surrounding issues or situation have any relevance or overlap to the previous matters

1. There should be independent specialists
2. Club doctors are put in unfair positions
3. Sometimes extreme situations can bring those unfair conflicts to a head (like taking 2 players off at once) which places all sorts of pressure on the club doctor
4. That extreme situation led your doctor to ignore the protocol which was explicit in what must happen
5. It’s not clear what other pressure he was under but the current rules put him in a very difficult position and he chose to ignore the protocol

Gurning McAdam over and over doesn’t make the situations similar

Heck, competitive pressures would have led to Tex taking that shot for goal.

but anyway, a good faith discussion here isn’t possible so I’m going to leave you to it
Serious question, in good faith. What part of the protocol was ignored by our doctor? If you can genuinely explain this to me, and then tell me why that macadam lying motionless on the ground for 5-10 seconds after his high bump that broke his cheek and didn’t not even require him to leave the field to be tested, did not ignore the same part of the protocol as in the allir situation, then I am totally happy to listen. I am here, hoping to be convinced.
 
It actually exposes how fake people are especially Crows fans that pretended they cared for the wellbeing of Aliir and Jones. Like zero check up to see how they are a week post incident. The same ones that booed Schulz off after he almost lost an eye. The same ones that boo Wingard and JHF because "reasons".
That’s a tad harsh. My crows friends feel much the same that concussion tests should be done routinely after a knock to the head. A quick look at Paul Seedsman’s plight transcends club and tribal loyalty in this.
Was Jonas tested on Sunday ?
 
That’s a tad harsh. My crows friends feel much the same that concussion tests should be done routinely after a knock to the head. A quick look at Paul Seedsman’s plight transcends club and tribal loyalty in this.
Was Jonas tested on Sunday ?

exactly. some of the "all da crows fans are stupid jerks" stuff is pretty tiresome. at the end of the day every fan base is just people, some of them will be good people and some will be flogs. that's the same with every club.

i have no doubt that some of the concern for aliir was genuine. and i'm sure some of it was just pathetic point scoring.

mcadam imo probably should have come off, but our treatment of jonas was probably even more bizarre, especially considering what just occurred.

the jones/aliir clash certainly appeared much worse than mcadams hit, or jonas/burton on the weekend. that's why it was controversial.
 

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