- Sep 11, 2014
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Koch needs to be held to account in the media. Get him gone. What a muppet.
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I need to know what data this is. Did he look at Adam Kingsley last year and go "well Ken's won 131 games and that's 131 more than Kinglsey so there's no way he's better than Ken"? Cause what other data is there? Potential is an intangible, whereas Ken's consistent failure is extremely tangible.
Not sure this is true. Choco didn't capitalise as much as we would have liked, that's for sure, but his record is nothing like Hinkley's.
Choco's coaching record is actually far more representative of an average coach.
He started in 1999 as his first season, making finals but not being a threat at all. In 2000 we took a step backwards, before improving to a top 4 finish in 2001, improving again in 2002 and 2003 when we won a final, then improved again in 2004, culminating in a flag.
So he won a flag in his sixth season at the club, after a period of gradual improvement. He then backed this up with making a second grand final in his 9th season. This is the sort of record you would expect from any coach given 10 seasons at a club - two GF appearances and one flag.
Compare that to Hinkley, who has shown no improvement over a period of 11 years. His best season to date is still his second one, and we have tread water in mediocrity ever since.
To compare their 6th seasons, Hinkley's sixth season was 2018, where we didn't even make finals. He backed this up in his 7th season with not only not making finals, but failing to meet the most basic responsibility of picking a captain, then burned another four seasons on top of that (and soon to burn another two).
No - he goes full "It's not the SANFL" in this one:
No - he goes full "It's not the SANFL" in this one:
Mark Aiston - the hero we didn't think we needed
No - he goes full "It's not the SANFL" in this one:
I'm quite certain that certain Hawthorn players weren't best buddies with Alastair Clarkson, but 4 flags were his rich reward. I'd be more than happy with a coach who's despised by everyone at Alberton, if he takes us to the promised land!!!!!!The boys love Kenny and Kenny loves the boys what a pathetic mantra.
This club has destroyed itself on the back of this garbage. In an environment like this no hard decisions are made, every body back slapping while at the sametime everyone's careers are being destroyed. What a philosophy.
I assume that is where he livesI'm not going to watch that video because mark aiston is a snivelling campaigner, but why the * is he sitting in his car?
And Carlton or Brisbane will become yet another opposition team to reach a grand final since 2007. Maybe we're going for the complete set - geez if we're waiting for North Melbourne to win one, none of us will be alive to see Port make a grand final.It's laughable that they're even in the conversation when there's enough damning evidence in front of us right now. During Koch and Hinkley's reign we've witnessed Melbourne rise from below us to win a premiership, and we've seen Richmond go from league punchline and meme to premiership dynasty. Yes, that Richmond. The one Hinkley's Port obliterated in a final in 2014. Both of those clubs had no right to win a premiership before Port.
This is everyone’s record combined since Hinkley took overAnd Carlton or Brisbane will become yet another opposition team to reach a grand final since 2007. Maybe we're going for the complete set - geez if we're waiting for North Melbourne to win one, none of us will be alive to see Port make a grand final.
I assume that is where he lives
In the other video, he says he likes Koch like a thousand times. Big red flag…
This is everyone’s record combined since Hinkley took over
Geelong 163-71-3
Sydney 149-87-2
Richmond 143-91-4
Port Adelaide 143-95
Hawthorn 132-103-3
Collingwood 132-104-2
Western Bulldogs 124-114
West Coast 122-115-1
Fremantle 120-116-2
Adelaide 116–120-1*
GWS 112-122-4
Melbourne 112-125-1
Brisbane 111-127
Essendon 106-130-2
St Kilda 95-141-2
North Melbourne 89-148-1
Carlton 84-153-1
Gold Coast 72-164-2
Only the bolded haven’t made a grand final yet…. Spot the outlier.
People also forget this for some reason:Choco’s side was ‘straight setted’ in his THIRD year as ******* coach.
Ken did this in his 11th year, with a very established list of players.
Choco had enormous pressure on him - Ken has white noise and is protected by the board and president.
Yze
MacRae
Kingsley
Voss.
But who's out there that we could possibly get that's better than Ken?
It blows me away that they went through the supposed shame and embarrassment of the 2021 prelim smashing, missed finals in 2022 and then the internal expectation this year (as dictated by the coach) was to make another preliminary final.
Not to win one, but just to make it there. And they'd call that a success and there would be back slapping all 'round.
I'm not going to watch that video because mark aiston is a snivelling campaigner, but why the * is he sitting in his car?
Mark Aiston - the hero we didn't think we needed
This is everyone’s record combined since Hinkley took over
Geelong 163-71-3
Sydney 149-87-2
Richmond 143-91-4
Port Adelaide 143-95
Hawthorn 132-103-3
Collingwood 132-104-2
Western Bulldogs 124-114
West Coast 122-115-1
Fremantle 120-116-2
Adelaide 116–120-1*
GWS 112-122-4
Melbourne 112-125-1
Brisbane 111-127
Essendon 106-130-2
St Kilda 95-141-2
North Melbourne 89-148-1
Carlton 84-153-1
Gold Coast 72-164-2
Only the bolded haven’t made a grand final yet…. Spot the outlier.