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Traded Sam Petrevski-Seton [Traded to West Coast as part of three way trade for Pick 52]
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Couldn't see Petruccelle leaving tbh, gets given games a lot of the time on potential, so the coaches obviously rate him. This season was only his first of a 3 year contract.
He was the one who pushed for the additional year also, so it seems he's settled in Perth now.
I wouldn't be trading him if I was WCE, as he has the attributes we desperately need and was building into great form this season before getting injured every ****ing time
Stats don't mean much, just look at Tom Mitchell and compare him to Cyril Rioli. Ask Hawks supporters who they'd rather have in their team right now.
A player's impact on a game itself is far more important. Petruccelle has proven he can have a big impact, in fact his best games are in losses, so it's not like it's downhill skiing either.
Just needs to stop pinging his hammy every 5 games and he'll build some solid form.
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Not a great player to look at statistically TBH. He's an impact player in the forward line who averages just under a goal a game and has great pace.
The key for him is that when its near him he impacts the play, and puts in good defensive pressure.
SPS on the other hand was supposed to be a distributor off half back so gets a lot more cheap ball on the exit. Their stats would likely be much closer if you excluded backwards/sideways kicks or kicks under 20 metres.
Compare Petruccelle with Jack Martin or Eddie Betts for a more relevant comparison:
Jack Martin and Jack Petruccelle AFL Stats Comparison
Jack Martin and Jack Petruccelle AFL Stats Comparison.
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Eddie Betts and Jack Petruccelle AFL Stats Comparison
Eddie Betts and Jack Petruccelle AFL Stats Comparison.
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That's how I feel about him as well. When I think about trades I try to consider where the player would go if he walked into the draft and said he'd be happy to play anywhere, which instantly increases his pick value compared to the actual trade situation given that in reality he's OOC and has nominated West Coast
With blokes like Sheldrick/Dittmar projected to go 35-45, I think most clubs would take their potential over a player that hasn't fired a shot in 2 years (regardless of position). I couldn't see SPS going in the top 60 picks to be honest. Feels like a token pick type trade only - if he'd been a pick 30 in his draft year he'd be lucky to get rookied and I can't see why any value should be attributed to what he did in junior footy 6 years ago.
By comparison, if Cerra walked to the draft I reckon he's behind only Daicos, Horne-Francis and maybe Darcy (haven't seen enough to comment).
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Whilst you weren't meaning it, that would actually be a pretty ideal mediation tool. Get rid of the preseason draft, and allow for live player trades on draft night.
Wherever a player gets picked, that pick goes to the club they are departing.
E.g - If Cerra goes to the draft, and a club bids for him before our pick 6 (let's say pick 4), then we can either lose him, or try to facilitate a trade with that club to get him (perhaps that's our pick 6 and an upgrade in the second round). Freo gets to use pick 4 then and there at the draft.
Doesn't impact the rest of the order, and ensures clubs are paying a value equal to that players market value at the draft.
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Hahah I hadn't thought of that, would certainly add a level of intrigue to draft night.
I'd actually be really interested to see how it would go with someone like Dawson. A reasonably low profile player so doesn't have the media harping on about how much the Crows should have to give up for him, but strikes me as a player who would be very highly rated in the industry. Crows fans think they're going to get him with 23 at the most. If he went to the draft I could see him going top 10, has the exact skillset for the modern game.
Just thought I'd check in on this thread, what's Samo's value down to now? A 5th rounder?
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I rate him more than what I believe we would get, therefore hope to hear Voss outlines how much he rates him and he stays.
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Ha, late second or early third is probably about where it sits IMO
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wc could split their first pick, thereby keeping the necessary 1st round pick, but also giving one for SPS.
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edit: if that is too much for SPS, perhaps that first rounder could nab them both SPS & McGovern?wc could split their first pick, thereby keeping the necessary 1st round pick, but also giving one for SPS.
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wc give Bris 10 & 29 for 14 & 18, then trade 14 for SPS & McGovern to Carlton.
Blues then give 6 & 14 to Freo for Cerra.
all happy
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wc could split their first pick, thereby keeping the necessary 1st round pick, but also giving one for SPS.
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edit: if that is too much for SPS, perhaps that first rounder could nab them both SPS & McGovern?
wc give Bris 10 & 29 for 14 & 18, then trade 14 for SPS & McGovern to Carlton.
Blues then give 6 & 14 to Freo for Cerra.
all happy
Adding an extra handful of shit to the existing bag of shit doesn't make the bag of shit worth more.
Unless West Coast are going into fertilising and farming.
He's taking the piss. Taking some of the bullshit from the Cerra thread and serving it up on a platter for Carlton fans.
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Tough to know with SPS and depends on your personal view which no one can know if really true or not.
View 1: Club playing him completely out of position has him frustrated leading him putting in only half hearted efforts.
View 2: Just not up to the midfield dynamics and can’t really play elsewhere.
View 3: What is says on the tin. Short sideways dinky kicks. Wants space rather than contests. Has no speed at all.
The tackles bit comes from team and coach love which leads to a player giving extra effort. You lose the love and u don’t bother tackling.
My view. In a game requiring hard two way running, hard physical tackles, huge physical commitment, metres gained and good kicking in the midfield, as shown the the grand final, then SPS just doesn’t have the traits at all.
SPS is in the mould of Marc Murphy, bell, hasleby. Space and turnover chasers that have no place in the current top 4 game. Could he be a Sam Mitchell type? Does he has sams afl IQ?
Aside from saying all that, please please give us a second rounder.
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He's soft. Hate to say it but it's true. Gibbs 2.0 but not as skilled and that's saying something. If he wants to go home we should just get it done for his sake and not worry too much about what we get. He just isn't firing at the Blues like we wanted him too.
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Far too realistic or this board. I don't know what we see in him TBH. We need more intensity, not more soft outside players.
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SPS for Petrocelli is a clear loss for Carlton both on output and potential, however most Carlton fans appreciate we are going to get unders for Samo and most of that is our own doing.. and a straight swap might just make the most sense for both clubs. WCE cap is allegedly tight so replacing1 similar salary with another might be good business. Personally I would rather something like this over any likely picks we would get in return but its not often a straight swap for players happens.
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If we don't get anything for Samo it won't be unders. He would struggle next year at the Blues, I can't see him making the 22 at any point especially if Cerra and Hewitt come on board. There are better players to come in as well such as Brodie Kemp, Fogharty and Marchbank. I just can't see where he fits in next year. Depth player maybe if we get hammered by injuries? Petrocelli has a bit more heart. I'd say that's a win for the Blues.
Love Samo, just not quite there.
About the same value as Ben Long for mine.
'I wouldn't say he's elite in terms of his preparation': SOS on SPS
Former Carlton list manager Stephen Silvagni says wantaway Blue Sam Petrevski-Seton needs to improve his preparation
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