Roast St Kilda in no mans land

[Pistol Night]

Saints record vs the Blues is 25-12 this century. No opportunity to keep building on that should be turned down.

Not even for a 2 pick differential in the draft.

I take a lot of schadenfreude in the fact that of the 6 number one picks that Carlton have earned this century (rabble), Goddard was the best.

Goes to show we overvalue pick 1

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Saints record vs the Blues is 25-12 this century. No opportunity to keep building on that should be turned down.

Not even for a 2 pick differential in the draft.

I take a lot of schadenfreude in the fact that of the 6 number one picks that Carlton have earned this century (rabble), Goddard was the best.

What's the all time record between us?

 

[Falchoon]

What's the all time record between us?

Carlton's Brown paper bag era is what landed us the best of your plethora of no.1 picks, pops.

 

[Freomaniac]

Goes to show we overvalue pick 1

Some people worship pick one . Others worshipped Clive Waterhouse or Kepler Bradley or Zac Dawson lol

 

[Freomaniac]

Every Port Supporter I have ever met has wanted Kenny gone for at least 6 of the last 10 years and I have lived in SA for 28 of the last 31 years....

I know this is a Saints thread. But yeah wonder how All those Hinkley bashers will react if Port wins the flag in 2024?

 

[jannissary]

I know this is a Saints thread. But yeah wonder how All those Hinkley bashers will react if Port wins the flag in 2024?

fluked it, get rid of him yadda yadda

 

[Ricmel]

You support the Gold Coast?
They matched an early bid for Jack Bowes and later paid a first round pick for another club to take him off your hands , that has to put you right in the middle of a glass house when it comes to this sort of thing.
If they weren't getting so many free picks thrown at them they'd have folded long ago.

The post you were replying to by Lavendar Bushranger about St Kilda was absolutely spot on, hit the nail etc.

Who the poster supports has exactly nothing to do with his post ....unless he had started it "Unlike ***** St Kilda stuffed up..." but he didn't.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

The post you were replying to by Lavendar Bushranger about St Kilda was absolutely spot on, hit the nail etc.

Who the poster supports has exactly nothing to do with his post ....unless he had started it "Unlike ***** St Kilda stuffed up..." but he didn't.

You can only draft those available. Clark for example is a pretty good choice in hindsite.

At the time everyone was gushing over those players, Dow, O'Brian, Bonar, just like they are with the current draft crop at the moment.

 

[Ricmel]

You can only draft those available. Clark for example is a pretty good choice in hindsite.

At the time everyone was gushing over those players, Dow, O'Brian, Bonar, just like they are with the current draft crop at the moment.

Yes, but the broad stroke of what he posted was spot on. Saints drafting - 2013 - 2018 - was very poor and it is a big factor in why the team has struggled to be a challenger again. It is really just semantics to focus in on one piece of his broad rationale to try and declare it flawed and that somehow because he may or may not support an unsuccessful team the poster should not be posting such opinions.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Yes, but the broad stroke of what he posted was spot on. Saints drafting - 2013 - 2018 - was very poor and it is a big factor in why the team has struggled to be a challenger again. It is really just semantics to focus in on one piece of his broad rationale to try and declare it flawed and that somehow because he may or may not support an unsuccessful team the poster should not be posting such opinions.

As proven by Sydney , McCartin would still be playing top level footy if not for his concussions.
OK i don't have an excuse for Billings, but he was highly rated at the time, and Bont was a bit of a stretch.

In general , yes the drafting was poor. Particularly we got absolutely nothing from later picks.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Billings cut down by a debilitating back problem and other injuries

 

[Gavin Excell]

Billings cut down by a debilitating back problem and other injuries

He was a terrible pick

 

[jumperfan]

He was a terrible pick

Realistically, who else would you have taken with that pick at the time?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Realistically, who else would you have taken with that pick at the time?

Marcus Bontempelli.

 

[jumperfan]

Marcus Bontempelli.

Like I said, who would you have taken at the time, without hindsight? Don't give me the Bont nonsense, only the Dogs and Essendon had him rated near the top three.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Like I said, who would you have taken at the time, without hindsight? Don't give me the Bont nonsense, only the Dogs and Essendon had him rated near the top three.

So they had a better recruiting team and done their research. Got it.

 

[jumperfan]

So they had a better recruiting team and done their research. Got it.

Yes, but by that logic 15 other clubs had recruiting teams on par with ours.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Yes, but by that logic 15 other clubs had recruiting teams on par with ours.

Not really. One was pick 3 and the other pick 4. 14 clubs hadn't even picked yet.

 

[BrutThough]

So they had a better recruiting team and done their research. Got it.

Even the Dogs would have taken Billings at 3. Everyone rated him above Bont at the time.

Unfortunately, recruiters don't have a decade of hindsight available to inform their decisions like you do. And even then, no guarantee that in our woeful environment that Bont would have developed into the superstar he is today.

 

[Red Bull]

Out : Ross
In : McCrae

That’s why Ross and his mates are on the big bucks

 

[Atomboy]

Out : Ross
In : McCrae

That’s why Ross and his mates are on the big bucks

Reasonable use of a third round pick I would have thought.

 

[phantom13]

Even the Dogs would have taken Billings at 3. Everyone rated him above Bont at the time.

Unfortunately, recruiters don't have a decade of hindsight available to inform their decisions like you do. And even then, no guarantee that in our woeful environment that Bont would have developed into the superstar he is today.

Also gotta ask if Bont turns into Bont if he comes to us, our record of development over that period is appalling.

 

[beside the seaside]

Out : Ross
In : McCrae

That’s why Ross and his mates are on the big bucks

Probably the most obvious upgrade of a list you would ever see. Have you watched football before?

 

[Red Bull]

Probably the most obvious upgrade of a list you would ever see. Have you watched football before?

So the Saints have upgraded from a HG Kingswood to a HG Premier !!
SOS really smashing it out of the park there

 

[beside the seaside]

So the Saints have upgraded from a HG Kingswood to a HG Premier !!
SOS really smashing it out of the park there

It's so obvious that he's a good pickup for us, but of course you wouldn't see that as you're obsessed with the idea that Sos and Lyon are bad while you subconsciously wonder how Carlton ended up with the worst coach in the AFL.