Media Swans Talk in the Media 2024

[Ticky009]

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[Jewelsbon]

Sounds reasonable to me, though I know next to nothing on the subject.

And yet... we needed to put weight on. Arguably still do. Some of our players seem immune to gaining size. It's frustrating.

I could teach them, I'm an expert at it.
If putting on weight was an Olympic sport, you'd all be talking to a gold medalist!!!!

 

[Kiama Chris]

I'd agree with that. Problem is in these grand finals we don't even get to put that endurance to the test because we just get killed in the contest. It's like our preferred game plan doesn't even get off the ground.

For too many years to count I have said "please don't draft twigs". There's only so much bulk you can add before everything else goes sideways. Plus the effort of adding it places strain on the body (CF Hickey).
But Chad has proven you can add strength and explosiveness without adding a lot of bulk. Just need him to use it more often.

 

[Nuggetz]

This was a really interesting quote from Hickey:

"After ’22 everyone had a plan that all the talk in the media and stuff was that Swans are too small, and they need to put on weight, and I think there was a big focus on a lot of guys putting on weight, and then through that, there was a lot of injuries that preseason."

Wait so did the media influence the players wanting to put on weight?

 

[caesar88]

Wait so did the media influence the players wanting to put on weight?

I interpreted it more that the GF belting influenced the club's direction to put more weight on the players.

Which I don't think is particularly controversial given that it is what many fans believed as well. The media were just the loudest proponents of it.

It was just more the correlation that Hickey seemed to be implying, between putting size on and the injuries we were hit with last year.

 

[SeanM]

Yeah I think after 2022 there was a narrative that we were physically bullied by more mature bodies.

But Brisbane also relied on their run, their workrate, being able to win possession with their clean hands and their handballing in tight spaces.

So I don't think it is just about us bulking up.

 

[Ticky009]

Why are we always expected to give our players away and not make a fuss but Vic teams like the Cats get heralded for playing it tough.

‘Don’t fight’: Swans urged to ‘show integrity’ in Parker trade... and bank cash for mega offer to star

Swans urged to ‘not fight’ Parker trade... and bank cash for mega $9m offer to star

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Why are we always expected to give our players away and not make a fuss but Vic teams like the Cats get heralded for playing it tough.

‘Don’t fight’: Swans urged to ‘show integrity’ in Parker trade... and bank cash for mega offer to star

Swans urged to ‘not fight’ Parker trade... and bank cash for mega $9m offer to star

www.foxsports.com.au

Victorian privilege

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Why are we always expected to give our players away and not make a fuss but Vic teams like the Cats get heralded for playing it tough.

‘Don’t fight’: Swans urged to ‘show integrity’ in Parker trade... and bank cash for mega offer to star

Swans urged to ‘not fight’ Parker trade... and bank cash for mega $9m offer to star

www.foxsports.com.au

Cats are the best for extracting every bit of blood from a stone when trading out players.

Then giving packets of chips in return masterful really

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

One thing that is escaping the media is Parker is not as cooked as Mitchell/Lewis were at the time of the trade.

 

[Punts]

One thing that is escaping the media is Parker is not as cooked as Mitchell/Lewis were at the time of the trade.

Some comments on here in his thread suggest otherwise

 

[Olian]

One thing that is escaping the media is Parker is not as cooked as Mitchell/Lewis were at the time of the trade.

Lewis was only 30 when traded for picks in the 40/50’s and was still averaging 27 possessions a game. Parker is about to turn 32 a little more cooked.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Some comments on here in his thread suggest otherwise

No but seriously he is not he will have a reasonable 2025 for North.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Lewis was only 30 when traded for picks in the 40/50’s and was still averaging 27 possessions a game. Parker is about to turn 32 a little more cooked.

Yer thats a mistake on my part Lewis probably not a fair comparison.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Mitch Morton with Paul Kelly

Great story, and he built it up well.

The alternative ending to that story after Kells asked how he got into the past players function would be...

"Sorry Kels, it's been fun chatting, but just spotted Goodsey and Bolts... just need to check where the next premiership reunion will be held"

 

[DobmusEdge]

One thing that is escaping the media is Parker is not as cooked as Mitchell/Lewis were at the time of the trade.

Mitchell and Lewis had just been named 1 and 2 in the B&F

 

[giantsully]

Article in SMH opining we’ve become too nice - Peter Fitzsimons

Hallmark not Hellfire: Too many Mr Nice Guys at the Swans

When things started going south in the AFL grand final, there was no battle-scared old bastard to hold the others to account.

www.smh.com.au

Might be paywalled but saying no one stood up as our house was burning down around us. Too many nice guys, no d*ckheads policy gone too far, didn’t make em earn it etc.

Confesses he knows little about AFL.

Then gives Robbo a plug about standing up for Goodesy.

He's right about Robbo - rewatching the Final Qr the other day. Robbo is one of the few commentators who treats Goodesy like a human being. Calls Buckley out on it too.

 

[rustycrate]

Article in SMH opining we’ve become too nice - Peter Fitzsimons

Hallmark not Hellfire: Too many Mr Nice Guys at the Swans

When things started going south in the AFL grand final, there was no battle-scared old bastard to hold the others to account.

www.smh.com.au

Might be paywalled but saying no one stood up as our house was burning down around us. Too many nice guys, no d*ckheads policy gone too far, didn’t make em earn it etc.

Confesses he knows little about AFL.

Then gives Robbo a plug about standing up for Goodesy.

I would have the following transcript on the wall when the players return from holidays to preseason training.

As to the Swans’ collapse in the AFL grand final, has the fabled “No dickheads” policy been taken too far? Is the team now filled with such nice blokes, who never get out of line, and never raise their voices let alone shirt-collar a teammate, that when things go south like they did last Saturday, there was no one there to lay down the law and say what needed to be said: “#FFS! Contest for the freaking ball! Do something! If we can’t win the match, at least win the fight! If we can’t lift the trophy, at least let’s take a piece of these blokes home with us, to show our mothers.”

And yes, I am being a little theatrically thuggish, but listen to what Swans midfielder – whatever that is – Robbie Fox said after the match.
“It was physical to start with. They came for the fight and we weren’t up to it. Then it turned into a mental game and you just have to be off 1 or 2 per cent. It’s just disappointing to not show up … it’s funny to say we had a great feeling before the game. Everyone was calm and composed.”
Exactly.

But the worry for me was not the calm composure before the game, it was the remarkably calm composure during the match, even as the Swans house was burning down around them.

 

[caesar88]

I reckon folks in the media need to stop equating being nice with being soft.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

I reckon folks in the media need to stop equating being nice with being soft.

You can relate?

 

[TheGoatBaron]

I reckon we are too nice as a club and have been for awhile. If we were more ruthless, we would have taken the AFL to court over our unfair and illegal trade ban. We would have won the case but we let it slide. Still baffles me that to this day. There’s a bit of truth to the article I reckon. It wouldn’t hurt us to bring in some ruthlessness

 

[Ticky009]

 

[Ticky009]

 

[rustycrate]

I reckon folks in the media need to stop equating being nice with being soft.

If you dish up soft continually in GFs, then people are going to equate it with anything including being nice if it fits the narrative. Win some GFs FFS and then the insinuation goes away I say.

That is reality.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Logan?? he could of kicked 100 goals this season and would of not mattered.

Falling short by a kick or two? sure that suggestion would of been valid.

 

[Cadsky]

Cool insight