Teams you think will definitely not make the 8

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I wouldn't totally write off St. Kilda, simply because they've got Alan Richardson coaching them. He was really tight with Ken Hinkley last year and will probably coach in a similar way, so if St. Kilda can just shut up and do what they're told and be grownups and do what Richo tells them he will extract everything out of them. And it just might be enough to sneak into 8th if absolutely everything goes right for them.

Not saying I think that will happen, just saying it's possible.

Didn't you lose the match Hinkley didn't coach? I think it'd take more than Richardson to get an ageing team without Dal Santo and McEvoy into the finals.
 

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Didn't you lose the match Hinkley didn't coach? I think it'd take more than Richardson to get an ageing team without Dal Santo and McEvoy into the finals.

Yeah, I think it was the first game we lost all year. And Richo has a hard road ahead of him with that list. But I think St. Kilda have got themselves a really good, grounded coach. Now they gotta keep him.
 
No chance - GWS, Dees, Saints, Brisbane (Port played their 2nd worst game of the year against them and still beat them somehow).
Unlikely - WC

Probably wouldn't add any others, to stay true to the thread title.

Bulldogs are an enigma to me. Showed some pretty good signs last year...
 
great question;

on ability ; melbourne, giants, bulldogs, lions, saints and essendon

richmond made the finals last year and that only happens once a decade .... so add them
Essendon and Richmond definitely won't make the 8? After finishing 5th and 8th last year? You've got a bit of a complex about these clubs don't you.

Obviously GWS can't, Saints and Dees very unlikely and are rebuilding. The rest could potentially IMO. A lot depends on injuries for the middle-tier clubs. Port's result last year proved that you can't write anyone off.
 
I don't know how 7 goals from Rockliff can be considered chipping in. He is a good player but cant really be considered a goal kicker in any capacity. That included him playing forward quite a bit earlier in the season too.
Kicked a lot more than that the year before, he's capable
 
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You were two wins and serious percentage off the eight in 2013 - that's not a bees dick that's a bloody mile off.
Percentage had nothing to do with. To make the finals we needed to beat Geelong in round 23 (we lost by 1 point), and we needed Port to beat Carlton in round 23(they lost by 1 point also). You're dreaming if you think that's a mile off
 
Percentage had nothing to do with. To make the finals we needed to beat Geelong in round 23 (we lost by 1 point), and we needed Port to beat Carlton in round 23(they lost by 1 point also). You're dreaming if you think that's a mile off
I will take into account your "what ifs", but only if you take into account Norths numerous "What ifs" and Essendon not being ejected, in which case you would still be nowhere near it. I'm sorry. I know what it's like to be bias, but you need to realise when you are doing so.
 
I am not ruling out anyone. Everyone starts at 0.
That's plain silly! Every year there are clubs that have just two chances of playing finals - "Buckley's & Nunn". All teams may start '0', but you just know the Saints, GWS, & Demons will NOT play finals. As George Orwell said, "Everyone is equal. Its just that some are more equal".
 

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I am not ruling out anyone. Everyone starts at 0.

Agree with this. Far too early to make a call, on the balance of probabilities it will be those less experienced teams who will struggle to make the 8 but nothing is locked in. GWS will probably be better than a handful of teams this year, their development doesn't need to mimic Gold Coast's to show they're on the right track.
 
Percentage had nothing to do with. To make the finals we needed to beat Geelong in round 23 (we lost by 1 point), and we needed Port to beat Carlton in round 23(they lost by 1 point also). You're dreaming if you think that's a mile off

I will take into account your "what ifs", but only if you take into account Norths numerous "What ifs" and Essendon not being ejected, in which case you would still be nowhere near it. I'm sorry. I know what it's like to be bias, but you need to realise when you are doing so.

Yeah pretty much.

Look I'm not knocking Brisbane, I think they had really turned a corner come the end of the year, but they were MILES off playing finals.

Anyone claiming they were a bees dick away is wearing glasses so heavily rose tinted they are almost opaque.
 
That's plain silly! Every year there are clubs that have just two chances of playing finals - "Buckley's & Nunn". All teams may start '0', but you just know the Saints, GWS, & Demons will NOT play finals. As George Orwell said, "Everyone is equal. Its just that some are more equal".

Port Adelaide 2013 says hello.
 
Agree with this. Far too early to make a call, on the balance of probabilities it will be those less experienced teams who will struggle to make the 8 but nothing is locked in. GWS will probably be better than a handful of teams this year, their development doesn't need to mimic Gold Coast's to show they're on the right track.

Specially if you consider that the anchor player for GC happens to be the best in the league. Think I'd be bullish about GWS over the next few years if I was a fan.
 
Specially if you consider that the anchor player for GC happens to be the best in the league. Think I'd be bullish about GWS over the next few years if I was a fan.
think our list may surprise a few this year
but more looking forward to the next 5 years
 
IMO, other than the teams that have been mentioned, i would add Gold Coast to the list.

Sure they had a great year last year and with experience the younger players will improve, but i feel that they aren't really drafting well enough for key position players. They will win a few, possibly a couple more than last year but they wont make the finals.
 
Pies are an interesting one, from their player movements expect them to make the top 4 but at the same token I can kind of see why people are saying they will drop off....

*confused*
 
Yeah pretty much.

Look I'm not knocking Brisbane, I think they had really turned a corner come the end of the year, but they were MILES off playing finals.

Anyone claiming they were a bees dick away is wearing glasses so heavily rose tinted they are almost opaque.

We were close to 'playing' finals, but we were miles off being ready for them. I don't think we are no chance, and I don't think we are a bottom 4 team as many have us pegged, but given our draw I would think our chances of finals this year are very remote.
 

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