Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

[Sector 7G]

Sam Edmund on Twitter going with our rd 7 match-up being against Gold Coast at Metricon. Also confirmed that McKay (as stated by barass) will miss this week against * due to rib damage.

That really sucks. Massive advantage playing them in Vic.

 

[carlton_99]

So why is it showing Carlton first on that match up, I saw earlier ?

I think the original post was a mistake. This is from SEN (via Sam Edmund), obv not 100% confirmed until the AFL comes out

 

[footyfan1978]

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I think the original post was a mistake. This is from SEN (via Sam Edmund), obv not 100% confirmed until the AFL comes out

Thanks mate. That is so much better to see it is a genuine away game. Had me worried before.

 

[ESKIE]

do Gold Coast leave QLD at any stage?

 

[carlton_99]

do Gold Coast leave QLD at any stage?

Round 5 play Geelong at GMHBA and Round 6 Hawthorn at the G

 

[Bluebag13]

do Gold Coast leave QLD at any stage?

r6 their at the MCG

 

[Own The Future]

Here are my issues:

Marchbank's mobility is relative; he's not mobile compared to other wingers, he's mobile compared to other talls. He can and will get burnt for pace by almost every single other wing in the comp, without them doing very much. He is agile for a tall not a small. The only place he could get them is through height and marking, and as long as we have one of Casboult, Gov or Charlie down the line (playing CHF or merely a chopout kick) his marking doesn't really add anything we don't already have.

A winger needs to have good disposal. Marchbank's kicking is good (certainly, it's better than a lot of people think it is) but it is not quite at the right level IMO. You can forgive that in a KPD (he's either going for safe kicks first or moving to the other wing where you've got players out in space, so precision isn't as important compared to distance) but you can't really in a winger. It's why I didn't want Ellis last year; for such an able winger, his disposal is awful.

Finally, one of the key issues I had with us under Ratts was that we continuously tried to shove round pegs into square holes. Marchbank has trained most of his life to become a key defender who intercepts opposition entries. We have a player who is 29 in that position right now, and he might last a year or he might last 5; we know due to history that KPP generally succumb to time ahead of smalls.

If we want a winger, let's recruit one.

Wow - I had to double check if I wrote this post as it so accurately sums up my thoughts on the topic.

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[HARKER]

Marchbank's mobility is relative; he's not mobile compared to other wingers, he's mobile compared to other talls.

Finally, one of the key issues I had with us under Ratts was that we continuously tried to shove round pegs into square holes. Marchbank has trained most of his life to become a key defender who intercepts opposition entries. We have a player who is 29 in that position right now, and he might last a year or he might last 5; we know due to history that KPP generally succumb to time ahead of smalls.
If we want a winger, let's recruit one.

I think so.

In Rattens time and maybe a little after, we recruited this type-player, with a view to make him into a that-type player.
Here's the info I had through that period:

Davies HBF'r to winger
Bootsma was also slated to play wing (This sort of made sense though)
McCarthy was a potential future captain. It took me one training session to feel - 'Well that's not going to happen'
Jaksch; When we recruited him the thoughts around him were: We have a 10 year KPF on our hands.
Menzel: Future midfielder....before we realised he didn't have a tank.
Viojo-Rainbow: HBF'er to Wing.....right!
There were more, but not coming to mind now.....

If we applied exactly what you're suggesting, we'd have been so much better off.
Not sure why recruiters/coaches have the need to 'recreate'
Even now we'll see that we payed premium for so many mids and now have to find new homes for them, or get rid of some. This I am sure of.

 

[Coona Blues]

Sam Edmund on Twitter going with our rd 7 match-up being against Gold Coast at Metricon. Also confirmed that McKay (as stated by barass) will miss this week against * due to rib damage.

Yeehaaa just a lazy six and a bit hours down the road. If there are tickets to be had I/we will be there

 

[The Toad]

I think so.

In Rattens time and maybe a little after, we recruited this type-player, with a view to make him into a that-type player.
Here's the info I had through that period:

Davies HBF'r to winger
Bootsma was also slated to play wing (This sort of made sense though)
McCarthy was a potential future captain. It took me one training session to feel - 'Well that's not going to happen'
Jaksch; When we recruited him the thoughts around him were: We have a 10 year KPF on our hands.
Menzel: Future midfielder....before we realised he didn't have a tank.
Viojo-Rainbow: HBF'er to Wing.....right!
There were more, but not coming to mind now.....

If we applied exactly what you're suggesting, we'd have been so much better off.
Not sure why recruiters/coaches have the need to 'recreate'
Even now we'll see that we payed premium for so many mids and now have to find new homes for them, or get rid of some. This I am sure of.

I don't think we've had a decent winger since David Glascott

 

[Robbo's my hero]

I don't think we've had a decent winger since David Glascott

Mil Hanna?
Scott Camporeale?

I'm sure there are others but, I agree, David was a champ.

 

[norway blue]

I don't think we've had a decent winger since David Glascott

Yeah his dashes we’re mesmerising.


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[norway blue]

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[The Toad]

Mil Hanna?
Scott Camporeale?

I'm sure there are others but, I agree, David was a champ.

Damn, I forgot about the bald one. The other one will be forever tainted as a traitor in my eyes.

 

[thylacine60]

Sam Edmund on Twitter going with our rd 7 match-up being against Gold Coast at Metricon. Also confirmed that McKay (as stated by barass) will miss this week against * due to rib damage.

seriously wtf do you need ribs for anyway?

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

seriously wtf do you need ribs for anyway?

Jimmy Stynes sure as heck didn't (played so many games with bruised and or broken ribs, which astonishes me as I was once hit by a car, suffered bruised ribs which was unbelievably painful and uncomfortable.

 

[thylacine60]

so it stings a little when you breathe, move, laugh, cough, lift - does anyone carry an injury anymore? can I get an amen, my brothers & sisters?

 

[myblueroan]

do Gold Coast leave QLD at any stage?

Would be difficult. Have to use a very powerful saw and then a great big ship to tow it elsewhere.

 

[myblueroan]

so it stings a little when you breathe, move, laugh, cough, lift - does anyone carry an injury anymore? can I get an amen, my brothers & sisters?

Pfft.
Flesh wound
Etc etc.

 

[Coona Blues]

so it stings a little when you breathe, move, laugh, cough, lift - does anyone carry an injury anymore? can I get an amen, my brothers & sisters?

Yep could bore everyone with some stories.
Bruised, get on with it. Cracked a week lay off as distinct from broken and slightly displaced which may get two or three.
Rib cartilage on another level, didn't do playing, but later with horses. Either I was getting softer or lingers longer and pain at least as bad as "broken".

Spare a thought for my ex jockey missus, career ended with 9 broken (flail chest) 1 re attached to wrong rib. 2 "floating" (not attached), as is a decent
"chip". To this day question medical "experts" who wouldn't operate to reattach spruiking that it would do more damage to cut open. Yet have seen plenty
of clips since where just that was done. Remains scariest day of my life. Lost her twice before ambos could drive the 1 bloody kilometre 20mins. Absolutely fluked rolling her the right way after being told on phone to roll her on her side to prevent drowning, other side would have been no hope. Ribs....memories......aaaagh. (extra info, when I had my pelvis smashed 6 weeks later, one of the attending ambos recognised her. Oh look I have your x rays on my phone, never seen an injury like it. Nobody expected you to survive. Hmmm have to love political correctness)

 

[katmanblue]

Pfft.
Flesh wound
Etc etc.

Just a scratch

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[katmanblue]

Yep could bore everyone with some stories.
Bruised, get on with it. Cracked a week lay off as distinct from broken and slightly displaced which may get two or three.
Rib cartilage on another level, didn't do playing, but later with horses. Either I was getting softer or lingers longer and pain at least as bad as "broken".

Spare a thought for my ex jockey missus, career ended with 9 broken (flail chest) 1 re attached to wrong rib. 2 "floating" (not attached), as is a decent
"chip". To this day question medical "experts" who wouldn't operate to reattach spruiking that it would do more damage to cut open. Yet have seen plenty
of clips since where just that was done. Remains scariest day of my life. Lost her twice before ambos could drive the 1 bloody kilometre 20mins. Absolutely fluked rolling her the right way after being told on phone to roll her on her side to prevent drowning, other side would have been no hope. Ribs....memories......aaaagh. (extra info, when I had my pelvis smashed 6 weeks later, one of the attending ambos recognised her. Oh look I have your x rays on my phone, never seen an injury like it. Nobody expected you to survive. Hmmm have to love political correctness)

Oof. That sounds terrible. But thankfully you are both still with us.

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[SurreyBlue]

All I will say my beloved LIVERPOOL won the premier league cup after 30 years - It's an omen - BLUES to do similar in the COVID year!!!!

 

[lily of laguna]

That just sounds ****ed up. Yes, I'm a bit squeamish.

Yep could bore everyone with some stories.
Bruised, get on with it. Cracked a week lay off as distinct from broken and slightly displaced which may get two or three.
Rib cartilage on another level, didn't do playing, but later with horses. Either I was getting softer or lingers longer and pain at least as bad as "broken".

Spare a thought for my ex jockey missus, career ended with 9 broken (flail chest) 1 re attached to wrong rib. 2 "floating" (not attached), as is a decent
"chip". To this day question medical "experts" who wouldn't operate to reattach spruiking that it would do more damage to cut open. Yet have seen plenty
of clips since where just that was done. Remains scariest day of my life. Lost her twice before ambos could drive the 1 bloody kilometre 20mins. Absolutely fluked rolling her the right way after being told on phone to roll her on her side to prevent drowning, other side would have been no hope. Ribs....memories......aaaagh. (extra info, when I had my pelvis smashed 6 weeks later, one of the attending ambos recognised her. Oh look I have your x rays on my phone, never seen an injury like it. Nobody expected you to survive. Hmmm have to love political correctness)

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