The Good, The Bad, and the Podsiadly

[The Karma Bus]

Ah yes thanks - you're right I attended both those games and have blocked them out lol

Likewise.. Sitting right near Torney when he launched the bomb vs Hawks deep in the last qtr..

We will be on 1 finals appearance in 5 years though if we miss this year..
They're not even hitting their target of just playing finals, which is a poor aim anyway..

 

[Smoooothy]

I thought it was 8. Since 2006 we have only played finals in 09 and 12.

Stand corrected though

05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 12

 

[Elder van Berlo]

Not sure it's been mentioned but we got another goal review stinker on the weekend as well. My first instinct was that Dangerfield's kick was touched, but how could you possibly overrule the umpire's call of goal on that evidence?

 

[xazos79]

Arrgh... so much bad. But martin... the kid seriously knows how to get into positions to kick goals. He's kicked 8 goals 15 behinds this year from 16 games (not sure how many were sub). Not only will he miss the gimme, but he has some horrid turnovers....what a momentum/team spirit killer.

 

[skoobydoo]

Looking at this list we really do have some very ordinary players. We keep hearing how the magnificent 7 (Sauce, Danger, Sloane, Walker, Talia, Smith, Betts) are going to drive us to our next premiership. For me, given our poor list, I'll go the opposite and say that their performances are what is keeping us off the bottom 4. Saddens me to think they will most likely never experience the joy of a premiership.

Most teams have a group of ordinary players and it is strange how good 18 players (even 22) can look when the key prime movers get their games going, the game plan is executed successfully, the ball is delivered well, and the players support each other. The lesser talents and juniors are often lifted to perform like polished veterans. In some of these games there are 'no passengers'! Seems a long way away for us. Surely it's not belief?

 

[Slippery Pete]

Likewise.. Sitting right near Torney when he launched the bomb vs Hawks deep in the last qtr....

Delisted about two seconds after that left his boot.

 

[Slippery Pete]

05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 12

Three top two finishes in there. No GFs.

Everybody's doing a great job.

 

[Smoooothy]

Three top two finishes in there. No GFs.

Everybody's doing a great job.

makes depressing reading hey..

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Not sure it's been mentioned but we got another goal review stinker on the weekend as well. My first instinct was that Dangerfield's kick was touched, but how could you possibly overrule the umpire's call of goal on that evidence?

Sort of got glossed over that one.

I think that any AFL/umpires decision we cop that doesn't involve draft sanctions we treat as a pretty good result

 

[DroppingTheBall]

Pods made a bad blue but it's OTT to call the game poorly played poorly coached etc. We played an away game against a side that has beaten Port, Sydney, Hawthorn and Freo in Perth this year. That's a better team than us, right? We were 10 minutes and a bad blue from winning. We had zero personnel to match up on Ziebel, missing Ottens, Shaw and Hartigan. The lads busted their boilers for the cause. Very disappointing to lose but it was a slugfest to the end and the lads never bowed their heads.

 

[Elite Crow]

Thanks Phil

 

[Allefgib]

Thanks Phil

I might have to infract you for abuse.

 

[Elite Crow]

I might have to infract you for abuse.

Only might?

 

[crowded house]

Pods made a bad blue but it's OTT to call the game poorly played poorly coached etc. We played an away game against a side that has beaten Port, Sydney, Hawthorn and Freo in Perth this year. That's a better team than us, right? We were 10 minutes and a bad blue from winning. We had zero personnel to match up on Ziebel, missing Ottens, Shaw and Hartigan. The lads busted their boilers for the cause. Very disappointing to lose but it was a slugfest to the end and the lads never bowed their heads.

Ziebel would have likely given Otten, Shaw and Hartigan a bath as well.

You can say that about our game on the weekend… but you can also say that about most of our losses for the past 2 years. It's not like it's a one off event. We've been 10 minutes and a borderline decision away from winning in most of our loses this year.

You can't call that close because an inability to win close, important games is really as far away as you can get from being a good team.

 

[Allefgib]

Only might?

Yes because if someone else says those words.. it may not be abuse. But when you or Duck or a few others say it....

 

[Archie87]

Pods made a bad blue but it's OTT to call the game poorly played poorly coached etc. We played an away game against a side that has beaten Port, Sydney, Hawthorn and Freo in Perth this year. That's a better team than us, right? We were 10 minutes and a bad blue from winning. We had zero personnel to match up on Ziebel, missing Ottens, Shaw and Hartigan. The lads busted their boilers for the cause. Very disappointing to lose but it was a slugfest to the end and the lads never bowed their heads.

So can I sum up this post with "we were so brave"?

I'm tired of these excuses. We were fortunate North kept kicking points in the third and weren't 6 goals down at three quarter time. Our structures and ball movement going forward are both absolutely horrible. Teams constantly smash us on the outside and spread harder than us. North, just like West Coast, Hawthorn (in fact, most of the half-decent sides we've lost to this year) have shown us up through quick ball movement, spreading fast, hard leading forward generating space and then finishing off with a kick to a leading target in space. Why can't we do this? But no, we'd rather just "see ball, get ball", over handball it to other team mates under pressure and finish this off with a long bomb to Tex/JJ standing with 4-5 defenders hanging off them.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ziebel would have likely given Otten, Shaw and Hartigan a bath as well.

You can say that about our game on the weekend… but you can also say that about most of our losses for the past 2 years. It's not like it's a one off event. We've been 10 minutes and a borderline decision away from winning in most of our loses this year.

You can't call that close because an inability to win close, important games is really as far away as you can get from being a good team.

Reckon Kerridge would have done better against Zeibel... Perhaps match-losing non-selection!

 

[NTRabbit]

Reckon Kerridge would have done better against Zeibel... Perhaps match-losing non-selection!

There's nothing to suggest he would have, Fremantle tried the same trick and Fyfe carved him up forward.

 

[Tex200]

There's nothing to suggest he would have, Fremantle tried the same trick and Fyfe carved him up forward.

Fyfe had 5 marks and 2 goals.

Would have gladly taken that from Zieball

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

There's nothing to suggest he would have, Fremantle tried the same trick and Fyfe carved him up forward.

Kerridge has had part of a poor game & at worst has 2 goals kicked on him against 1 of the guns of the comp…whereas lt got an absolute bath against a handy player. Keg's good games far outweigh his poor ones!

 

[NTRabbit]

Kerridge has had part of a poor game & at worst has 2 goals kicked on him against 1 of the guns of the comp…whereas lt got an absolute bath against a handy player. Keg's good games far outweigh his poor ones!

It's not about Kerridge's good or bad games, it's about him not being very good at traditional defending when the player he is tagging drags him forward.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

It's not about Kerridge's good or bad games, it's about him not being very good at traditional defending when the player he is tagging drags him forward.

You base this on 1 poor half & ignore all his good games which is his norm. Even the best players have off games & no disgrace against the Guy who will probably lead the brownlow votes who he quietened in the 1st half.

If all our players had been a consistent as kerridge & only had the odd poor quarter, we would be in the top 8!

 

[NTRabbit]

You base this on 1 poor half & ignore all his good games which is his norm. Even the best players have off games & no disgrace against the Guy who will probably lead the brownlow votes who he quietened in the 1st half.

If all our players had been a consistent as kerridge & only had the odd poor quarter, we would be in the top 8!

Once again, you're mistaking doing a good job as a tagger with doing a good job as a conventional defender when that midfielder plays as a forward. Most taggers are bad at it, Crowley is essentially the best at it without being too great and that's because he's probably the tallest tagger in the league.