Autopsy The not even The Bont, Libbas and Jones' heroics can drag us over the line against the cats thread

[perro_loco]

There were quite a few players worse than Duryea tonight.
He played well, no way he should be in the gun.

Oh yes he should be in the gun. He cost us two goals. We lost because of his errors. No Geelong defender butchered the ball the way he did. Back to the VFL imo. Also, VDM was poor and Daniel had the worst game of his career.

 

[CrumpetAgony]

You can chose to be down on that performance all you want.

What I saw was us fighting back hard, playing hard and almost beating a team that was 3-0 to start the season.

We’ve been pumped by Geelong for far too long in terms of skill and pressure, tonight was such an improvement. I’m choosing to be positive but if you want to be negative that’s more than fair after a loss

I love your positivity, but they were coming off a 5 day break and a heavy track. Thought we might stretch them at some point but never did.

 

[Oliver G]

As always…

Expected Score / Actual Score
WB: 89 / 91 (+2)
GE: 77 / 95 (+18)

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: +12 / -4

 

[TMoney22]

Losing such a game always hurts but we need to maintain perspective.

That was a very tough game against a quality side that played well and got more than their share of lucky breaks during the game.

We missed a bunch of shots on goal. Marra the worst offender missing multiple gettable opportunities, but he was not on his own. VDM's was also a very painful miss.

We still have a bunch of players that aren't going that well, but are building, so the future looks OK.

Let's hope the boys react in the right way and can build on a very good performance. Hopefully they become determined to not lose like that again.

I'd argue that was the best game of the season so far. I think it is also arguable that we were slightly the better side in general play, even though we couldn't quite show it on the scoreboard.

Certainly plenty of positives to take from the game.

Hopefully somewhere in this future Gryan Miers isn't better than 90% of our list

 

[bullish23]

I‘m ropable. If Naughton and English show up we win that.

When it comes to the genuine sides, these two consistently underwhelm.

 

[dogwatch]

As always…

Expected Score / Actual Score
WB: 89 / 91 (+2)
GE: 77 / 95 (+18)

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: +12 / -4

Centre Bounce Attendance
27 - English
26 - Bontempelli
25 - Liberatore
23 - Treloar
12 - Sanders
5 - Darcy, Gallagher
4 - Macrae
1 - Weightman

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage / Sharked)
98 - English (38 / 19 / 8)
22 - Darcy (8 / 5 / 1)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 24
GE: 14

English v Stanley (84 contests)
Hitouts: 31 / 41
To Advantage: 15 / 11
Clearances: 38 / 29

Darcy v Blicavs (13 contests)
Hitouts: 6 / 4
To Advantage: 3 / 2

Clearances: 5 / 5

First Possessions
WB: 60

GE: 44

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 53 / 36 (68%)
GE: 44 / 29 (66%)

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 61%
GE: 63%

Smothers
WB: 8

GE: 9

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 58%
GE: 61%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 65%
GE: 70%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 8
GE: 4

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 3
GE: 6

Defensive Half Intercept Marks
WB: 19
GE: 14

Score Launches
4 - English
3 - Liberatore
2 - Darcy, Khamis, Treloar
1 - Bontempelli, Duryea, Johannisen, L. Jones, Sanders, Weightman, West, Williams

Targets Inside 50

19 - No target/rushed
7 - Ugle-Hagen
5 - Weightman
3 - Darcy, Vandermeer
2 - West, Naughton
1 - English

Inside 50 Repeat Entries
WB: 6
GE: 12

Ground Ball Gets In Western Bulldogs F50
WB: 14
GE: 20

Ground Ball Gets In Geelong F50
WB: 13
GE: 13

Shots At Goal
WB: 28 (50%)
GE: 25 (56%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Geelong)
Set Shot: 9.2 / 6.4
Snap: 2.2 / 5.2
On Run: 3.2 / 3.2
Mark Play On: 0.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.1 / 0.0

0M-15M: 3.1 / 3.0
15M-30M: 1.1 / 2.2
31M-40M: 7.3 / 2.2
41M-50M: 1.1 / 5.3
51M+: 2.1 / 2.1

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 1.1 / 0.1
Scores In Time-On: 4.5 / 6.6

Score Assists
3 - Baker
2 - Bontempelli, West
1 - Dale, Daniel, Duryea, English, Gallagher, Naughton, Treloar, Vandermeer, Weightman

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 28
GE: 16

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 13

GE: 5

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 21
GE: 21

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 61

GE: 51

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 17
GE: 15

Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Bontempelli, Johannisen, L. Jones, Ugle-Hagen
1 - Bramble, Daniel, Darcy, Duryea, English, Liberatore, Richards, Weightman, Williams

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 3

GE: 2

Turnovers Punished By Goals
2 - Darcy, Treloar
1 - Dale, Naughton, Richards

AFL Player Rating Points
26.3 - Liberatore
24.4 - Bontempellli
15.8 - English
14.5 - Treloar
13.5 - Richards
13.0 - Darcy
12.9 - Weightman
11.2 - Williams
10.8 - Naughton
10.4 - Duryea
10.0 - L. Jones
9.6 - Sanders
8.6 - West
7.9 - Dale
7.8 - Vandermeer
7.3 - Gallagher
7.0 - Khamis
6.6 - Macrae
5.8 - Johannisen
4.0 - Baker
3.9 - Ugle-Hagen
3.4 - Daniel
2.6 - Bramble

AFL Player Ratings Points Per Minutes Played
0.22 - Liberatore
0.21 - Bontempelli
0.21 - Macrae
0.18 - Darcy
0.14 - English
0.13 - Treloar
0.12 - Richards
0.12 - Weightman
0.11 - Williams
0.11 - Sanders
0.10 - Duryea
0.09 - Naughton
0.08 - Dale
0.07 - West
0.07 - L. Jones
0.07 - Gallagher
0.07 - Vandermeer
0.05 - Khamis
0.05 - Daniel
0.04 - Baker
0.03 - Ugle-Hagen
0.02 - Bramble


Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 56%
GE: 44%

Q2
WB: 43%
GE: 57%

Q3
WB: 46%
GE: 54%

Q4
WB: 61%
GE: 39%

Match
WB: 52%
GE: 48%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 169 (Poor)
GE: 166 (Poor)

Q2
WB: 228 (Elite)
GE: 201 (Elite)

Q3
WB: 182 (Average)
GE: 183 (Average)

Q4
WB: 192 (Above Average)
GE: 197 (Above Average)

Match
WB: 193 (Above Average)
GE: 186 (Average)

Score Sources
Scores From Stoppages: 8.2 / 5.5 (3.0 / 3.1 from the centre)
Scores From Turnovers: 5.5 / 7.6
Scores From Kick-Ins: 1.0 / 2.0

Great work again OG. Thanks.

Looks to me like we won or squared nearly every important stat ... except the only one that really matters at the end of the season.

Sad, but we can take a little bit of solace from that. We just need to keep putting in the effort. There will be days when it goes the other way.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

These unlucky games never seem to break our way but at least they're less destructive in April than August

 

[hutchy31]

I‘m ropable. If Naughton and English show up we win that.

When it comes to the genuine sides, these two consistently underwhelm.

I mean, how often do we need to see this - particularly with English.

Naughton cannot be this ineffective in his contract. It is unacceptable to have so little impact where/when it matters.

I’ve seen a lot of positive posts in this thread, so I must be a natural pessimist because that was horrible. Geelong are not a top team imo, particularly away from home, and they just kept us at bay all game.

It’s not the loss so much as how predictable it is that the game is played on their terms, they dominate us for most of the game and then squeak home.

I’d have to imagine this burns for Bont, Bevo and everyone else because it’s ****ing embarrassing as a supporter. Get your ****ing act together and beat this ****ing mob in a game that matters ffs.

 

[revo333]

Geelong just had all the answers tonight and the boys had their chances just missed a few gettable goals

It felt like they were toying with us for most of the game.

 

[revo333]

I really don’t see how losing to such a quality side by such a small margin could justify such titanic melts

Because we have barely beaten Geelong for 10 season and it's the same story every time we play them.

 

[Doggy]

Nice deliberate against Weightman in the forward line that ended up a goal down their end .. another putrid decision

 

[Dazb86]

Too many mistakes cost us the game

 

[Dog 36]

English belted again where it all starts

Again we lose a close one it is be coming the rule rather than the exception

We forget Cats off a 5 day break we didn’t capitalise on that

Cats and some specific players of the Cats along with Scott just look forward to playing us and with good reason

 

[ExRoyboy]

I can’t imagine I will ever respect a Dogs player more than Tom. Just beyond words.

35 disposals
28 contested
19 clearances
9 tackles

Probably the best inside mid game I’ve ever seen played to be honest. The fact this guy has never been named an All Australian is ridiculous. Consistently one of the best in the competition for years now.

 

[The Inbetweener]

When you look at our fixture and the difficulty of our double up games (we are currently doubling up against 5 of the top 8 teams and only 1 of the bottom 10), we just had to win that game. Won’t get a better opportunity to beat one of the current better sides.

We do look to have made some improvements but the biggest worry is that the season plays out the same way as the last 2 where we aren’t good enough to beat the good sides.

 

[Cookie]

Naughton is an overpaid glory towner. Our mid tier is terrible compared to other teams but everyone will blame VDM. If you do that you have no idea.

It's about time the torch was put to Naughton.

 

[Maverick Dog]

Hawkins, Cameron and Stewart are all great players who look even better because of how well the systems they work in function.

Below that they are made up of mainly role players who are used in a way that allows them to use their best attributes and not expose their worst. That is something Bevo has never been capable of doing.

Stanley, Bruhn, Parfit, Bowes and Clarke were Geelongs top 5 cba attendees. That is a bottom 4 midfield in the comp. Yet somehow that group scored multiple goals straight out of stoppage because, again, Bevo has never been able to solve that problem.

I agree they’re a good side, but they’re not undefeated because of top end talent, they’re undefeated because
1. Chris Scott is the best game day tactical coach in the game
2. They’ve played three (maybe four) sides who look very unlikely to make finals.

100 % spot on. I think Cats are overated. Have had a dream draw. You have hit the nail on the head on every point. Some supporters just see they are undefeated but do not review who they have played. They will make finals because of home ground advantage and how well they are coached. Scott has been great these past 4 seasons.

 

[Maverick Dog]

Libba 19 clearances and 28 CP’s. Insane numbers.

He was amazing, Bont was great and so was Treloar and we still lose against the worse mids in the AFL. Something does not add up here. I wonder if it is how much better coach Scott is. The head to head is horrific. Scott must love coaching against his bunny.

 

[Claudonious]

Nice deliberate against Weightman in the forward line that ended up a goal down their end .. another putrid decision

Terrible decision - was falling over as he tried to hand pass to a player . How that was given deliberate is beyond me



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[Randomthoughts]

Tackle Attempts / Tackles / Percentage

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Appreciate that Oliver
Interesting…. I recall during the game a chain of 3 broken takes within one passage . Our running half backs are not really interested in chasing hard defensively and forcing contest by tackle pressure . Really annoys me .
Darcy at 208 cm and with a developing frame can make 4/4 ….incredible

 

[The Inbetweener]

Terrible decision - was falling over as he tried to hand pass to a player . How that was given deliberate is beyond me



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Agree. West was there too - it’s not like Cody wasn’t trying to give it to someone.

 

[DognBones]

Only 4 games in but Naughton is averaging 1 goal per game and Jamarra 1.5 goals. This just doesn't seem good enough considering their talent. Sure our system is often poor bringing the ball into their area but they've had long enough to work out how to work together and then, when they do get it, put it through the big sticks. Mirror watching recommended.

 

[MrChristo]

To clarify, his hands touched the ball whilst the edge of the ball was just touching the very back edge of the line, not exactly in front of it.

Should have been umpires call, a behind.

Sorry to pick you out specifically here, Proffessor, but it was a mark.

The ball isn't a score until it completely cross the back of the line.

He clearly (when I say clearly, I mean in a slow motion single frame) had his hands on the ball before it was entirely over the line. (Because we couldn't see the whole ball).

No fumble = mark.

Sorry gang, but as soon as they showed the first replay it was inevitable.

A few thoughts while I'm here, echoing many others...
...Dale was poor. One very soft moment early. Kicking has gone downhill. (Although did run and try hard late).

If we could sum VDM up in one play...we all know what it was.

Macrae? It's 100% clear that we can't play him and CD in the same team, so I didn't mind the plan...
...and (unfortunately) CD may have just solved that problem himself.

Glad others here have been talking about the skills.
Someone specifically mentioned Duryea. He was fantastic in his defensive role, but some of his kicking was 2 or 3 off over a 20m kick. Not good enough and killed forward momentum a few times.

 

[Foxman98]

Sorry to pick you out specifically here, Proffessor, but it was a mark.

The ball isn't a score until it completely cross the back of the line.

He clearly (when I say clearly, I mean in a slow motion single frame) had his hands on the ball before it was entirely over the line. (Because we couldn't see the whole ball).

No fumble = mark.

Sorry gang, but as soon as they showed the first replay it was inevitable.

A few thoughts while I'm here, echoing many others...
...Dale was poor. One very soft moment early

Has to be clear and obvious without doubt to overturn umpires call,

With the cameras that are used no one can say either way there was enough evidence to overturn

 

[MaxiBont]

I was one who wasn’t sure about Treloar’s contribution this year but jeez he’s he been good so far.

I’d love to get some youth in the midfield to complement Libba, Bont and Adz. Give Garcia and West some run in the midfield and see if they can build some form.