The off topic thread 6.0

[SM]

So the Democrats and their media stooges saying Trump is a threat to democracy isn't shit flinging but pointing out their hypocrisy is? OK.



The cost of living ranks as the most important issue for US voters. Housing costs, childcare, food prices all increased dramatically under the Biden/Harris administration. Gasoline went from $1.50 a gallon to as high as $4.
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Immigration also is one of the main voter concerns. In April 2020, there were around 16,000 encounters on the US-Mexico border. Since then, the monthly number of migrant encounters at the U.S.-Mexico border has surpassed 200,000 on 10 separate occasions. That's over 2 million every year. And that's just the people the authorities know about, The true figure would be higher. This wasn't an accident due to Kamala's incompetence. On his first day as president, Joe Biden sent Congress an immigration bill that included a pathway to citizenship for an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants.

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There's a Trump thread on the politics board for you to fawn over him and ignore reality.

 

[DBAH0]

Gasoline went to $1.50 a gallon because no-one was driving during Covid.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Was going to say...

There is no comparison between democrats and Trump when it comes to threatening democracy. Only one Potus candidate this year is a convicted felon, and that same person incited a riot at the capitol because he couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote.

As for inflation, there's been a spike all around the world since COVID. The market always corrects itself and the COVID downturn has seen sharp upturn since. Things will stabilise, they always do

 

[Frank Bunn]

Gasoline went to $1.50 a gallon because no-one was driving during Covid.

Gasoline prices actually went up at the start of Covid.

 

[SM]

Gasoline prices actually went up at the start of Covid.

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Er, when do you think COVID started on that graph?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Gasoline prices actually went up at the start of Covid.

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Big shit. Commodity prices are down, inflation has dropped from 9 to 3%. Unemployment reached a 50 year low down from 6.4% when Biden took over to 4% and went as low as 3.4 early last year.

Low paid workers have seen wages rise

 

[Bostonian]

Goodness me Trump is funny. If only he wasn't a manipulative narcissist with little respect for democracy.

The evangelicals will never quit with their adoration for the man - he's doing God's work.

What makes you think the Democrats respect it?

 

[Bostonian]

Honestly, you are taking the p155 now. Trump literally said, in public, on camera, that this was the last time they would need to vote, because he was going to “fix it”. Shame you can’t find the outrage for that.

And all the people who find outrage over Trump didn't say a thing when Hilary rigged the Democrat primaries v Sanders.

So who set the standard?

 

[DBAH0]

Gasoline prices actually went up at the start of Covid.

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Well no they went under $1 in some places in early 2020 when Covid started. It was under $2 here in Texas then.

Gas prices fall to under $1 in 13 states as demand drops during pandemic

In one state, some customers are paying just 89 cents per gallon.

abc7news.com

 

[Bostonian]

Was going to say...

There is no comparison between democrats and Trump when it comes to threatening democracy. Only one Potus candidate this year is a convicted felon, and that same person incited a riot at the capitol because he couldn't accept the result of a democratic vote.

There's comparisons.

What you meant to say is that people have only started paying attention like johnny come lately types do to whats being projected at them.

Democracy in the US has always been heavily manipulated by the duopoly being corrupt.

What we're seeing is what happens when you let that festering open corruption continue for decades.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

No. I said what I meant.
I'll put my words in my own mouth thanks all the same

 

[Bostonian]

Maybe then don't make statements then that make it look like you've been paying attention for 5 minutes.

 

[Bostonian]

The Democrats have takenthe Greens Party to court to have them struck off ballots so as they remove competition at the ballot box.

They literally view any vote cast for a third party as a "spoiler" vote.

Meaning they see it as you should not get to vote for another party if they see it a threat to them gaining a seat.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

The Democrats have takenthe Greens Party to court to have them struck off ballots so as they remove competition at the ballot box.

They literally view any vote cast for a third party as a "spoiler" vote.

Meaning they see it as you should not get to vote for another party if they see it a threat to them gaining a seat.

Don't think it compares with insurrection and a convicted felon running for President or some of the nasty voting restrictions Republicans are putting in place in some states. As much as you try and bag past Dem/Republicans ...nothing compares with Trump/Republican words and actions....it's another level

What did the Green Party sue over?​

After initially having their petition for party recognition denied by the State Board of Elections in the summer of 2022, the Green Party sued the board in federal court.


The N.C. Democratic Party and the DSCC quickly intervened in the case as defendants.

The DSCC had also contacted voters who signed the Green Party’s petition asking them to remove their signatures, saying that having the Greens on the ballot could hurt Democrats’ election chances.

The State Board later reversed its decision, officially recognizing the Green Party. However, it did so after the candidate filing deadline, meaning the party needed a court order in order to get its candidates on the 2022 ballot.

That August, Dever ruled that the Green Party must be allowed to place candidates on the 2022 ballot. The Democrats filed motions attempting to keep Dever’s ruling from going into effect, but were unsuccessful.

These motions were likely to fail and motivated by fear that voters may choose Green Party candidates instead of Democrats, Dever wrote in his order on Tuesday.

The Green Party was able to run two candidates in the 2022 elections: Matthew Hoh for U.S. Senate and Michael Trudeau for N.C. Senate. Neither candidate won.

 

[SM]

The attempted equivalence of storming the capitol and legally going through the courts - and failing - is just such false equivalence I can't believe it's being done in good faith. It's akin to people giving an equal platform to flat earthers because 'both sides deserve their say'.

 

[undefined]

What makes you think the Democrats respect it?

Well for starters, Obama peacefully handed over the keys to the Whitehouse in 2017. I could go on..

 

[Bostonian]

The attempted equivalence of storming the capitol and legally going through the courts - and failing - is just such false equivalence I can't believe it's being done in good faith. It's akin to people giving an equal platform to flat earthers because 'both sides deserve their say'.

Yew the later is far worse than a few people with no weapons who were never in million years ever going to impact democracy.

BLM protests did more damage to private property.

Taking a legitimate political party to court to have them removed from the ballot is peak anti-demo
cracy.

The sheer political corrupted mindset that if a third party should dare win a few voters over to their side that they need to be removed from a ballot.

 

[SM]

Yew the later is far worse than a few people with no weapons who were never in million years ever going to impact democracy.

BLM protests did more damage to private property.

Taking a legitimate political party to court to have them removed from the ballot is peak anti-demo
cracy.

The sheer political corrupted mindset that if a third party should dare win a few voters over to their side that they need to be removed from a ballot.

Yes, using legal systems to appeal a party appearing on the ballot and then accepting the outcome is far worse than inciting people to storm the capitol and attempting to kill elected members of Congress.

WTF am I reading?

 

[Bostonian]

Well for starters, Obama peacefully handed over the keys to the Whitehouse in 2017. I could go on..

And it's easy to go on with the Democrats history of being against a free and open Democracy.

Guess who fought the hardest to stop black people voting in US history?

 

[Bostonian]

Yes, using legal systems to appeal a party appearing on the ballot and then accepting the outcome is far worse than inciting people to storm the capitol and attempting to kill elected members of Congress.

WTF am I reading?

We're talking about Democracy Karen.

Why would a major party take a smaller third party to any court to have them removed from the political process?

Yes all those people with no weapons. Going to overturn the Government.

One thing was never a chance of happening.

The other could have removed a legitimate political party from fair elections.

 

[SM]

We're talking about Democracy Karen.

Why would a major party take a smaller third party to any court to have them removed from the political process?

Yes all those people with no weapons. Going to overturn the Government.

One thing was never a chance of happening.

The other could have removed a legitimate political party from fair elections.

Why do you always use the 'Karen' insult even when it has absolutely no rational use in a conversation? Why are you incapable of discussing something calmly?

No weapons? Even if that were true how on earth does it make it ok?

If it was a legitimate political party and had no reason to be struck from the ballot how exactly were they going to be removed?

 

[Jatz]

Wild that you're turning storming Capitol Hill into a leisurely protest in the park...

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Don't think it compares with insurrection and a convicted felon running for President or some of the nasty voting restrictions Republicans are putting in place in some states. As much as you try and bag past Dem/Republicans ...nothing compares with Trump/Republican words and actions....it's another level

Bloody Johnny come lately

 

[glenferry23]

Wild that you're turning storming Capitol Hill into a leisurely protest in the park...

Such wild reading this last page or so, the Trump cultists just make me ****ing laugh. Reminds of me the “subtle” and “convenient” changes of language depending whether the protesters are black (“thugs”) or white (“patriots!!!!”).

Trump Called BLM Protesters ‘Thugs’ But Capitol-Storming Supporters ‘Very Special’

"I know your pain, I know your hurt," Trump told the violent, insurrectionist mob.

www.forbes.com

 

[Bostonian]

Why do you always use the 'Karen' insult even when it has absolutely no rational use in a conversation? Why are you incapable of discussing something calmly?

No weapons? Even if that were true how on earth does it make it ok?

If it was a legitimate political party and had no reason to be struck from the ballot how exactly were they going to be removed?

Because Karen's always make mountains out of molehills.

If you're going to overthrow democracy, especially America, you will need a lot of weapons and a huge amount of military to do so.

The question is why would a major party want them removed?

We know that the Democrats whined like absolute sooks and attacked Jill Stein because they squarely pointed the finger at her for being a reason why Trump got elected.

Why would anyone hold that position?