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Been said before, but funny how everyone was demanding an external review, and now that we have one... everyone is still pi**ed. Shouldn't we just let this play out...

And, oh, as for the media at the moment, there are no footy games on this weekend, so it's open season on Crows-bashing.
We wanted a bona fide external review designed in good faith to repair flaws at the club, not a sham review that amounts to little more than lip service.
 

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We wanted a bona fide external review designed in good faith to repair flaws at the club, not a sham review that amounts to little more than lip service.


I thought they had announced two external reviewers who were experts in their field and they would be announcing another two, apart from that has anything else been advised by the club
 
What approach would you have taken, given the timeframes involved?
Starting the review 2 months ago would have been helpful, not waiting until after our season has officially ended.

This would have allowed the reviewers to observe the system in action, with face-to-face access to all of the review's subjects (players, coaches, high performance staff, board members). Oddly enough, Richmond chose to do their 2016 review this way.

In contrast, by starting it now, the club is running on a skeleton staff as the players and many others have gone on leave. There's no way of seeing the systems in action, so all they get is a revisionist version as recited by those with a vested interest in keeping their jobs. Many of the interviews will need to be conducted over the phone or video, rather than doing them face-to-face.
 
Starting the review 2 months ago would have been helpful, not waiting until after our season has officially ended.

This would have allowed the reviewers to observe the system in action, with face-to-face access to all of the review's subjects (players, coaches, high performance staff, board members). Oddly enough, Richmond chose to do their 2016 review this way.

In contrast, by starting it now, the club is running on a skeleton staff as the players and many others have gone on leave. There's no way of seeing the systems in action, so all they get is a revisionist version as recited by those with a vested interest in keeping their jobs. Many of the interviews will need to be conducted over the phone or video, rather than doing them face-to-face.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought players weren't officially on leave till after the Club Award night?

Don't disagree that starting earlier would've been much better though.
 
I'll back in our club to be playing finals in 2021 (next year will be a transformational season). There's no evidence in our history to suggest otherwise.

No Douglas, Otten, Betts, MacKay and Jacobs - I expect us to be top 5 without these players. They have provided very little in the way of onfield benefits this season.

Throw in Gibbs and a clean up/out of some of the off-field dead weight and we'll be easy top 8 next year.

Imagine a good game plan, players issues sorted out, no Burton, Campo or Hart and inject some youth and skill - happy days ahead!!
 
I thought they had announced two external reviewers who were experts in their field and they would be announcing another two, apart from that has anything else been advised by the club

Well they were supposed to announce who the other two reviewers are by the middle of this week. That they've already failed the first step doesn't exactly instill confidence.
 
The review has started

Did you get that report on the football department?

Yes Sir, I did. The football department is located on the first floor. It's hours are 9am to 5pm. The head of this department is a Mr. Burton or Bird Man.
 

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More noise about Pavlich being involved.


Surely you would want some one who has been part of a successful club and exposed to that culture - not bloody Freo.

This would be a crock of shit getting Pavlich, being a good player is not a requirement for someone conducting the review.
 
No Douglas, Otten, Betts, MacKay and Jacobs - I expect us to be top 5 without these players. They have provided very little in the way of onfield benefits this season.

Throw in Gibbs and a clean up/out of some of the off-field dead weight and we'll be easy top 8 next year.

Imagine a good game plan, players issues sorted out, no Burton, Campo or Hart and inject some youth and skill - happy days ahead!!


Mate through a lazy hunggy on it you will get a great return if you are that confident

Obviously the bookies will be confident in the opposite way if they are giving the odds
 
No Douglas, Otten, Betts, MacKay and Jacobs - I expect us to be top 5 without these players. They have provided very little in the way of onfield benefits this season.

Throw in Gibbs and a clean up/out of some of the off-field dead weight and we'll be easy top 8 next year.

Imagine a good game plan, players issues sorted out, no Burton, Campo or Hart and inject some youth and skill - happy days ahead!!
What makes you think we'll be top-8 without those players?
  • Jacobs only played 5 games this year, and only 3 post-bye. ROB played plenty of games, and didn't make a material difference in our ability to win.
  • Betts was only dropped for 1 game, and still managed to kick 37 goals (albeit 12 of them being against Gold Coast). That's not an unreasonable return, given the way the ball was being delivered into our forward line. Stengle showed a bit as his replacement, but hardly enough to suggest that he'd be the difference between us making the 8 and missing again.
  • Otten only played 3 games for the season, and only when injuries gave us no other alternative. How, precisely, does his omission improve our best 22 - given that he wasn't in our best 22 to begin with?
  • Mackay had an average year. Neither particularly good, nor particularly bad. His haters will continue to hate. However, what was noticeable was that he was the only player still willing to provide run & carry towards the end of the season, when everyone else had given up and reverted to chip-chip-chip-turnover.
  • Douglas played 9 games, but never really got going this year. I think it's safe to say that his replacement in 2020 will offer more than he did in 2019. Enough to turn us into a top-8 team? Don't make me laugh.
The biggest difference will be replacing our dud off-field performers, and coming up with a gameplan for 2020. That, and getting our better players to perform at more than 35% of their capacity, are the keys to improving the team.

Getting some youth into the side will reinvigorate the team. That's a good thing - but expecting them to make a big difference on the field is a tall expectation. At the end of the day, the players you named are not the reason why we failed this year.
 
Just read the end of Eddies comments to Pembo about the review.

He’s implored the players to tell the truth to better the club.

He’s not the first one to say it.

Man are they all going to unload.

Some nervous people at the Crows.
And your Favourite :D would be one of the first to shit bricks actually both your favourites :D would be,
Burton and Campo would not get too many positive comments from the players.
 
Surely you would want some one who has been part of a successful club and exposed to that culture - not bloody Freo.

This would be a crock of s**t getting Pavlich, being a good player is not a requirement for someone conducting the review.
If it is Pav, I suspect they'll focus more on the fact he was on the board of directors & President of the AFLPA, plus has completed an MBA.
 
Look I don't mind the possible Pavlich appointment in isolation but I remember mentioning on here during a game Roo was commentating earlier in the year that it was annoying me so much that rather than just have an opinion, Riccutio would constantly then follow it up with "isn't that right Pav?".

Yeah, it would be hard to find someone with no connections to anyone at the club, but I'd probably prefer they weren't colleagues with the most football person on our board.
 

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