MRP / Trib. Tom Stewart bump on Prestia - 4 weeks to freshen up

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It's hard to measure exactly, but if he's out before his feet hit the ground then I don't think you have measure anything.

He won't get away with high severity I don't think.
Are you saying this from a position of medical knowledge or just your own idea? As far as I am aware and I have some idea to base this off, it is all about the symptoms you experience and not about “ how ugly it looks” in the moment. It is just wrong to base it off a stagger or laying on the ground.

If prestia has been up and about symptom free since the game

Symptoms mostly being lack of migraines, nausea, neck pain, dizziness, double vision, issues with concentration and thought, depression, personality alterations.

Those are probably the main ones to get technical. So if these are all or mostly absent, then why would it be graded “severe” at the tribunal hearing if the medical report comes up clean??

I don’t know if it will or won’t, but we should be basing severing off this and couldn’t give two rats asses about a stagger or if they lay on the ground at the time as this tells us literally nothing about the actual severity.

If they want to base these things off severity, at least do it right is all I am saying and have it fair and consistent with a medical checklist
 
Our blokes always lay a body on around a contest, it's not a malicious thing.. But I feel it's a deliberate thing, just that body on pressure, anything to make players 2nd guess or even just to help wear them down (especially with our physically large team) but you watch any game and when a player dishes off a handball they nearly always have the player who was chasing or pressuring lay body contact on..

Tom was just trying to do that, hit the body, physically remind any player that we are around... But he both miscalculated badly his timing and also the size of his opponent and it resulted in a really bad situation/outcome.

I felt 4 was what he'd get when it happened, still think that but also who knows with the tribunal

Anyone comparing it to Gaff/Solomon/Hall etc are dead set having a shocker, any Tiger fan melting about the game STILL probably needs to go out and get some fresh air, it's just a game Ffs

I think we both know that won't happen. Far too much bad blood has passed between these two clubs now. No one will admit it, but I reckon there are a few posters on this board who secretly enjoyed it, just as there would be on the Richmond board if it was the other way. The only constant is hypocrisy. If Tom Lynch did what Stewart did posters on here would be demanding 12 weeks. Rinse and repeat for most if not all clubs and supporters.

I'm with you, it definitely was not as bad as Gaff/Solomon/Hall - to me anyway - but it was definitely worse than say Dangerfield's last year. In the current game you can't defend a shoulder to the head, off the ball, with the player getting a concussion. Now it's just spin the wheel and see what number they decide on. I'm going with 3.
 
The Richmond hysteria over this is off tap.
i reckon there is alot to this game that has really touched a nerve with Richmond fans.

It was the sort of high pressure intensity game that historically they would have run all over us in the past. This time they didn’t. It showed that they are not what they once were, and probably showcased it in emphatic fashion with us rolling them from 17 points down in the last in an epic MCG nail biter.

I think it served as a reality check they are not what they once were, and the tables have turned. We broke the fairytale ideology I think was beginning to build about some premiership resurgence they believed was occurring, and it was a big thud they didn’t see coming. Arrogantly they all believed they would steamroll us and it didn’t go at all to plan.

The whole prestia KO thing is a bit of a way to vent steam for the fact above
 
i reckon there is alot to this game that has really touched a nerve with Richmond fans.

It was the sort of high pressure intensity game that historically they would have run all over us in the past. This time they didn’t. It showed that they are not what they once were, and probably showcased it in emphatic fashion with us rolling them from 17 points down in the last in an epic MCG nail biter.

I think it served as a reality check they are not what they once were, and the tables have turned. We broke the fairytale ideology I think was beginning to build about some premiership resurgence they believed was occurring, and it was a big thud they didn’t see coming. Arrogantly they all believed they would steamroll us and it didn’t go at all to plan.

The whole prestia KO thing is a bit of a way to vent steam for the fact above
I can’t react to posts at the moment because of Richmond nuffies mashing the report button but I can give you this for your post.

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i reckon there is alot to this game that has really touched a nerve with Richmond fans.

It was the sort of high pressure intensity game that historically they would have run all over us in the past. This time they didn’t. It showed that they are not what they once were, and probably showcased it in emphatic fashion with us rolling them from 17 points down in the last in an epic MCG nail biter.

I think it served as a reality check they are not what they once were, and the tables have turned. We broke the fairytale ideology I think was beginning to build about some premiership resurgence they believed was occurring, and it was a big thud they didn’t see coming. Arrogantly they all believed they would steamroll us and it didn’t go at all to plan.

The whole prestia KO thing is a bit of a way to vent steam for the fact above
Love your posting. Sharing this. 👍
 
Maybe dumb question but why isn't the tribunal on Monday night? I also can't find anywhere that says what day and time it is.. I can pretty much guarantee he will get 4 weeks even though 3 is fair and reasonable. It was a shoulder bump not an elbow and a taller player would have taken it on the chest instead of head.
Exactly right.. elbows are real malice and should be 4 or more weeks, good technique bumps that stray high should be graded anywhere between 1-3 depending on all the factors.

You should miss a month of football for a malice act ( elbow raise), a well techniqued bump is not malicious ( tucking in the shoulder and elbow).

Tribunal is way way off
 
Are you saying this from a position of medical knowledge or just your own idea? As far as I am aware and I have some idea to base this off, it is all about the symptoms you experience and not about “ how ugly it looks” in the moment. It is just wrong to base it off a stagger or laying on the ground.

If prestia has been up and about symptom free since the game

Symptoms mostly being lack of migraines, nausea, neck pain, dizziness, double vision, issues with concentration and thought, depression, personality alterations.

Those are probably the main ones to get technical. So if these are all or mostly absent, then why would it be graded “severe” at the tribunal hearing if the medical report comes up clean??

I don’t know if it will or won’t, but we should be basing severing off this and couldn’t give two rats asses about a stagger or if they lay on the ground at the time as this tells us literally nothing about the actual severity.

If they want to base these things off severity, at least do it right is all I am saying and have it fair and consistent with a medical checklist
The same position of medical knowledge that a lawyer has. It'll be graded severe surely
 
The same position of medical knowledge that a lawyer has. It'll be graded severe surely
medical report will surely come into it tuesday and could save or condemn him if they argue severity. his staggering or laying on the ground means nothing in terms of actual severity of a concussion. symptom free prestia could get it reduced to 3 if we are lucky.
 
i reckon there is alot to this game that has really touched a nerve with Richmond fans.

It was the sort of high pressure intensity game that historically they would have run all over us in the past. This time they didn’t. It showed that they are not what they once were, and probably showcased it in emphatic fashion with us rolling them from 17 points down in the last in an epic MCG nail biter.

I think it served as a reality check they are not what they once were, and the tables have turned. We broke the fairytale ideology I think was beginning to build about some premiership resurgence they believed was occurring, and it was a big thud they didn’t see coming. Arrogantly they all believed they would steamroll us and it didn’t go at all to plan.

The whole prestia KO thing is a bit of a way to vent steam for the fact above
Up to now they've all been certain this is another late premiership charge year. Reality awaits
 

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Exactly right.. elbows are real malice and should be 4 or more weeks, good technique bumps that stray high should be graded anywhere between 1-3 depending on all the factors.

You should miss a month of football for a malice act ( elbow raise), a well techniqued bump is not malicious ( tucking in the shoulder and elbow).

Tribunal is way way off
Nah, they set the rule ages ago that if you elect to bump and catch them high it's supposed to be automatically intentional. Otherwise why did we lose Dangerfield for so long after he had that head clash with Kelly?
 
Stewart hit him hard, no doubt about it. Lined him up too. No way out of it.

4-6 weeks

Cop the ban, come back cherry ripe for finals.

Hope Prestia pulls up ok. Fukn good player for the tigers. Always wanna play the best they have against ours. 👍
 
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We will ask for 3, AFL will push for 5, resolution will be made for 4 IMO.

Really important that we still win one of the Dees / Blues games without him.

With Henry back in the team we won’t feel Stewart’s loss as much as we would if this happened a month ago. Also worth noting that we’ve beaten two decent teams in Brisbane and Bulldogs without TS this year.
 
Maybe dumb question but why isn't the tribunal on Monday night? I also can't find anywhere that says what day and time it is.. I can pretty much guarantee he will get 4 weeks even though 3 is fair and reasonable. It was a shoulder bump not an elbow and a taller player would have taken it on the chest instead of head.

To allow time for the Sunday matches to be reviewed by the MRO - any suspensions or direct to tribunal decisions from Sunday matches will need time to review things & prepare for the tribunal or potential appeals and that can't happen if it's on a Monday night

And further to that, I don't think the AFL wants to run multiple tribunal sessions in a week and thus they make it Tuesday night
 
The incompetant richmond staff made it look a lot worse as did Prestia flopping around. I'm not sure how it gets rated as severe, no elbow involved
If you get hit by a pushbike you're likely to get straight back up, if you're hit by a motorcycle the impact is far greater.

The fact that Prestia was hit by 90kg Stewart rather than a 65kg Close is why the impact was far greater.
 
Interestingly Dimma gave Stewart 0 coaches votes despite Stewart being clear top 2 in the ground. Imagine refusing to give coaches votes because you don't like a player lol
Most likely it was Scott who gave Stewart 0, not Dimma, and rightly so imo. Imagine giving votes to a player who does something likely to get themselves suspended for multiple weeks. The negative for the team far outweighs the positive.
 
Most likely it was Scott who gave Stewart 0, not Dimma, and rightly so imo. Imagine giving votes to a player who does something likely to get themselves suspended for multiple weeks. The negative for the team far outweighs the positive.
Can't agree, once the Prestia incident happened Stewart could have gone 2 ways lose concentration and worried about himself and his future or knuckle down and make sure we at least got the 4 points where he could still have a influence we all know which way he went.Best on ground and shower how mentally strong he really is it's no wonder he's seldom beaten.
 
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