List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 4

[SouthernStripes]

Wow, only day one and this thread is chaos

 

[Theo23]

One of their flog posters is probably Glen Luff - all about as stoopid as each other

He actually makes the deals, happy to hear him talk. Some guy was asking us to thank him since he offered pick 60, very weird!

 

[Hamsatma]

Wow, only day one and this thread is chaos

imagine the carnage if something actually happened

 

[sante]

A future 3rd?! Nah, they’re not serious about bargaining. There is trying to reach a mutually beneficial agreement and then there is this.

Try another club please

Do you even understand how it works? You never offer your best offer first.

It’s like a bunch of you on here have never been outside of your house and in the real world. Lockdown must be taking its toll on you Victorians

 

[Mr Unbelievable]

Grand final week for Norf.

They’ve come out hard …. Can they maintain this pressure all game

 

[Grockadoc]

Worst case I would do CCJ and 28 for 20 and 72. on the proviso that Norf accept 83 for Tarrant in a trade.

On trade 26, 38 and 42 for Dogs 17.

Take 7, 15, 17, 20, 47 and 72 to the draft.


Out: CCJ, Chol, 26, 28, 42, 83
In: Tarrant, 17, 20, 72.

 

[Lsta062]

Do you even understand how it works? You never offer your best offer first.

It’s like a bunch of you on here have never been outside of your house and in the real world. Lockdown must be taking its toll on you Victorians

Lol who said anything about best offer at the beginning of negotiations? They are offering a 3rd rounder while requesting our a 4th-round pick back according to an article that cited The Age. You still think knowing this that North Melbourne is being serious in negotiations? Sounds that they know they have the upper hand instead.

I highly doubt that we will get his value from a club that took full advantage of Collingwood’s cap space last year and paid unders for Jaidyn Stephenson. I’m not waiting around for a good deal from them tbh

 

[sante]

Lol who said anything about best offer at the beginning of negotiations? They are offering a 3rd rounder while requesting our a 4th-round pick back according to an article that cited The Age. You still think knowing this that North Melbourne is being serious in negotiations? Sounds that they know they have the upper hand instead.

I highly doubt that we will get his value from a club that took full advantage of Collingwood’s cap space last year and paid unders for Jaidyn Stephenson. I’m not waiting around for a good deal from them tbh

They started with a future 3rd. We will say no and then they bump up the offer. How do you not understand basic negotiations?

 

[Maurice Mitchell]

Pick 26 at best..... pick 7? Cornes has not idea.....muppet !

Seriously embarrassing himself in this trade period; has no idea. Completely out of his depth

 

[richoatthedisco]

You’d be in the 12 RATD.

How so? Free agency compensation works based on the net gain/loss. "A club that has a net loss of players transferring to/from other clubs as free agents in one transfer period is entitled to compensation via National Draft picks allocated by the AFL."

E.g Lose 1 free agent, bring in no free agents = 1 compo pick
Lose 2 free agents, bring in one = 1 compo pick
Gain 1, lose 1 = 0 compo Pick

It doesn't matter if the opposing team gain a compensation pick from the free agent leaving, bringing one in still cancels out the compo for one of yours leaving.

LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You

For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.

lmgtfy.app

 

[daird]

LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You

For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.

lmgtfy.app

Ironic considering you're too lazy to google it yourself.

Have a squizz under "compensation" on this AFL page - https://www.afl.com.au/about-afl/free-agency
You're welcome.

 

[Lsta062]

They started with a future 3rd. We will say no and then they bump up the offer. How do you not understand basic negotiations?

Instead of thinking people are simpletons that don’t understand how negotiations work, maybe read my post and realise that it’s not my failure of understanding negotiations that’s my problem here. I know how negotiations work. It’s North Melbourne’s willingness to negotiate that is my problem. I have seen how opportunistic this club was last year and how they were happy to use a club’s vulnerable position to basically call the shots on a player’s trade value (i.e. the Jaidyn Stephenson situation).

Richmond’s now in a vulnerable position and the same type of behaviour is starting to emerge because Richmond definitely doesn’t hold the upper hand in these negotiations. As long as CCJ is willing to go to them at any cost, North Melbourne can basically name their price and Richmond isn’t able to do much about it. No surprise they are starting with a 3rd round pick AND asking Richmond to send back a 4th round pick. So not even a straight 3rd round pick. A 3rd round pick and asking for a 4th back. That’s clowning around if you ask me.

I don’t have confidence that North Melbourne will not take full advantage of the circumstance we’re in. Do you now understand why there are people like me that are taking exception to the way North Melbourne’s going about things?

 

[sante]

Instead of thinking people are simpletons that don’t understand how negotiations work, maybe read my post and realise that it’s not my failure of understanding negotiations that’s my problem here. I know how negotiations work. It’s North Melbourne’s willingness to negotiate that is my problem. I have seen how opportunistic this club was last year and how they were happy to use a club’s vulnerable position to basically call the shots on a player’s trade value (i.e. the Jaidyn Stephenson situation).

Richmond’s now in a vulnerable position and the same type of behaviour is starting to emerge because Richmond definitely doesn’t hold the upper hand in these negotiations. As long as CCJ is willing to go to them at any cost, North Melbourne can basically name their price and Richmond isn’t able to do much about it. No surprise they are starting with a 3rd round pick AND asking Richmond to send back a 4th round pick. So not even a straight 3rd round pick. A 3rd round pick and asking for a 4th back. That’s clowning around if you ask me.

I don’t have confidence that North Melbourne will not take full advantage of the circumstance we’re in. Do you now understand why there are people like me that are taking exception to the way North Melbourne’s going about things?

If it was the other way around? Would you be upset with the club for doing what’s best for them and not North?

 

[tugga]

Ok I am asking one more time.
Cut the shit posts out please.
If it’s not talking about actual trade scenarios I’m going full on with the Thor hammer.
We simply don’t have time for this.

 

[Lsta062]

If it was the other way around? Would you be upset with the club for doing what’s best for them and not North?

Yes, I would. I don’t want to see Richmond take advantage of another club like this just because they have the PSD. I understand if the other club’s being unreasonable, but Richmond’s honestly not asking for a whole lot.

Luckily, the current people at Richmond aren’t ones that would do this a club so I’m content with how they go about trades. Richmond’s issue is quite the opposite. I feel like they sometimes pay overs

 

[SplintWhisky]

Instead of thinking people are simpletons that don’t understand how negotiations work, maybe read my post and realise that it’s not my failure of understanding negotiations that’s my problem here. I know how negotiations work. It’s North Melbourne’s willingness to negotiate that is my problem. I have seen how opportunistic this club was last year and how they were happy to use a club’s vulnerable position to basically call the shots on a player’s trade value (i.e. the Jaidyn Stephenson situation).

Richmond’s now in a vulnerable position and the same type of behaviour is starting to emerge because Richmond definitely doesn’t hold the upper hand in these negotiations. As long as CCJ is willing to go to them at any cost, North Melbourne can basically name their price and Richmond isn’t able to do much about it. No surprise they are starting with a 3rd round pick AND asking Richmond to send back a 4th round pick. So not even a straight 3rd round pick. A 3rd round pick and asking for a 4th back. That’s clowning around if you ask me.

I don’t have confidence that North Melbourne will not take full advantage of the circumstance we’re in. Do you now understand why there are people like me that are taking exception to the way North Melbourne’s going about things?

The AFL 100% need to put a rule in that a player can't qualify for the PSD if the average yearly salary is over $300k. The fact that clubs can use the PSD as a threat is a joke. They should be forced to use an actual draft pick in the National Draft.

 

[SA_Tiger11]

Soooo…..

CJ and pick 7 for Larkey & pick 20?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Soooo…..

CJ and pick 7 for Larkey & pick 20?

Throw Brodie into the equation somehow and there’d be interest .

 

[sregit]

CCJ is so overrated, Jee wiz. He has done sweet f all for us, besides beat up a rubbish Adelaide side. I’d take a future 5th rounder that’s how average I believe he is. Yes taller players peak when they are older ok fine, but seriously. The guy has 0 campaigner, weak in the wet and an 0 personality. Go and get f’d CCJ.

We all know he and stacky got into a fight with each other when they got back to the hotel on the Gold Coast, thats why you’re leaving the club you pig

TLDR: CCJ GO AND GET FD TO NORTH. Over rated dud.Trade him for nothing so we can move on with this trade period Seriously. When are north gonna win 3flags in 4 years ? Never.

Just let him walk to the PSD if we don’t get any compo better than whatNorth have offered. North lose pick 1 in PSD and I agree he’s a dud. Look on the bright side we’re gaining a list spot.

 

[DontArgue4]

Soooo…..

CJ and pick 7 for Larkey & pick 20?

Wouldn't mind Souv Larkey

 

[Rich01]

They started with a future 3rd. We will say no and then they bump up the offer. How do you not understand basic negotiations?

Yep, it’s already been revised to pick 40.
Shortly it will be Tarrant and 40.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Ok I am asking one more time.
Cut the sh*t posts out please.
If it’s not talking about actual trade scenarios I’m going full on with the Thor hammer.
We simply don’t have time for this.

Embrace the carnage imo

 

[tugga]

Embrace the carnage imo

Easy to say when you don’t have to deal with the fallout

 

[HumanMeatball]

Easy to say when you don’t have to deal with the fallout

Nah I semi agree. I haven’t really seen anything to bad what sort of things are you referring to just so I know

 

[RobsJourney]

Much revealed on tonight’s Tiger cast?