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I wouldn't be throwing stones at anyone given your obsession with everything North Melbourne over the past week.
Hardly Mr Rational.... Just saying.
Everyone is in lockdown... Nothing wrong with a bit of a melt.
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pretty sure miller needs to come onto the main list, and most on here want cumberland and biggy retained
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the clubs that needed picks for bids are doing their trades have done their deals, and we are nowhere to be found. tell me what exactly are we going to do with the 3-4 3rd and 4th round picks that we deliberately traded for but arent going to use?
Grimes, Astbury, Broad, Baker, Houli, Short, Nankervis, Graham, McIntosh, Castagna, Pickett Balta, Bolton and Lynch are all multiple premiership players we got 25+ in the draft, rookies or a FA for nothing. Not to mention Grigg, Soldo and Butler aswell who won flags aswell...
Miller can stay on the rookie list for another two years. We don't have any rookies who need to be elevated this year.
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Looks like we'll be banking future picks.
My Obsession as you have called it dates way back to longer than 1 week mate , Its actually disdain for the sh!t stain club and their minnow beggar mentality dating back to the 70's
Hold on to your nickers here lol club has 7,15 26 , 28 great hand already.Happy to go to the draft with that. Not paying overs for pick 17 and still plenty of trades left and live trading.
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Clubs like the Dogs and Pies may want to trade back into the draft once they have used the picks they hold for bids and we could score some future picks
Still plenty to play out
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lot of uncertainty around many players- cause COVID.
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My honest opinion here
History has shown, Richmond would rather trade for live picks on Draft night.
They have specific players targeted. Dependent on how the draft progresses, they'll have plenty of leverage with the plethora of their live picks, to adjust throughout the night.
And if they end up requiring to pass on Pick 44 or something? They'll just trade it to another team for their future 3rd rounder. Last year was a great example- apparently we wanted Finlay McCrae, Collingwood picked him before us, then we traded our pick to Geelong
The good clubs have a plan on draft night, and execute it. The bad clubs (Carlton), get overwhelmed by the occasion and treat it like Fev at the TAB.
Our prerogative here may not be to move from 15 to 11 (lol), but to approach draft night with the intention of clawing up the pecking order when it suits us, and omitting/trading picks when it also benefits us.
History has shown, Richmond would rather trade for live picks on Draft night.
They have specific players targeted. Dependent on how the draft progresses, they'll have plenty of leverage with the plethora of their live picks, to adjust throughout the night.
And if they end up requiring to pass on Pick 44 or something? They'll just trade it to another team for their future 3rd rounder. Last year was a great example- apparently we wanted Finlay McCrae, Collingwood picked him before us, then we traded our pick to Geelong
The good clubs have a plan on draft night, and execute it. The bad clubs (Carlton), get overwhelmed by the occasion and treat it like Fev at the TAB.
Our prerogative here may not be to move from 15 to 11 (lol), but to approach draft night with the intention of clawing up the pecking order when it suits us, and omitting/trading picks when it also benefits us.
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How many teams in the AFL have 2 x first round & 2 x second round picks this year?
None, and we have done a single thing this trade period to get them.
Yet if you read through this thread everyone is losing their minds because Melbourne got pick 17 this year by trading their R1 pick next year. Heaven forbid they have a year like us this year, next year and lose a top 10 pick.
We still have 7 days to sit back and see what unfolds during the trade period in terms of bringing in or sending out players and then we've got the period up to the draft for pick swaps and then we've got live trading on the night when teams who are keen on a slider may come calling wanting one of our second round picks or even our first round picks.
We're 3 days in to what is effectively a 6 week trade period in terms of swapping picks.
None, and we have done a single thing this trade period to get them.
Yet if you read through this thread everyone is losing their minds because Melbourne got pick 17 this year by trading their R1 pick next year. Heaven forbid they have a year like us this year, next year and lose a top 10 pick.
We still have 7 days to sit back and see what unfolds during the trade period in terms of bringing in or sending out players and then we've got the period up to the draft for pick swaps and then we've got live trading on the night when teams who are keen on a slider may come calling wanting one of our second round picks or even our first round picks.
We're 3 days in to what is effectively a 6 week trade period in terms of swapping picks.
St Kilda , Carlton , Adelaide just to name 3 off the top of my head will be needing picks on draft night and we could easily trade into next year
Doggies & Pies will not be taking picks #22 & #23 into the draft. Freo will only have #6 , #8 , #19 , #27 and will most likely trade #19 for Clarke but with the WA talent and their 2 NGA kids will need points as well . St Kilda also have 2 academy kids with Owen likely going 20-30 range.
Lions have ashcroft boy expected to be top 5 pick next year and might look to off load 2022 picks.
The options are endless
I don't think anyone has any issue with this, it's more about trading the back ended picks which may be hard or not as valuable later on.
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Miller is a first year rookie this year so no need to upgrade. Cumberland and Biggy may or may not be retained who knows what the club will do.
It’s fair to say the club is keeping their options open on how many picks we may take to the draft.
No, Adelaide gave up 23-37-44-62-66-F4 for 33-75-F1(Melb)
Which, by the way, is nucking futs
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5 point upgrade and another minimal upgrade??
meh.
I think we need to assess this further and continue on trend.
What we know?
We know Melbourne do not really care for draft picks because they are in the now.
Do they think Mac Andrew will slip to 17? Is 15 important to them
Melbourne are arguably more likely to do a trade than others because draftees not as relevant. Same with Bulldogs and Brisbane in particular in terms of trading out 2022 first as well as 14 and 18 may not suit them.
Is Brisbane interested in 7 for 14 and 18 hypothetically and we give them 15 for their 2022 first off the top of my head without even thinking about it
The other thing we know is Collingwood and Bulldogs will be looking for more points to use other picks unless trying to trade for a specific pick. Collingwood are limited in terms of futures as well.
Other clubs will be aware of Bulldogs and Pies picks for points to in twenties and because they are less value they will be more capable but they also will not want to give away much because only have so many picks later
Thinking about this we probably should trade separately for 22 and 23 using 26 and 28 but how is yet to be determined. Pies will probably like a future to if they can
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Exactly. Turning relatively junk picks into the pies 2022 draft hand or dogs 1st were the best opportunities so far. Unlikely there will be anything as valuable on offer for the picks we won’t use now.
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Unsure about Cumberland and Miller but pretty sure Biggy has/is about to extend
There are 4 clubs with only 1 pick before our back end picks. You don’t think they will be knocking soon with a bit more desperation?
Im sure we know how we are going to play it.
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Pies have enough points. We have over 2700 and we at most need 2400
Would want a future 2nd back with that, otherwise it's too lop sided for only a 4 pick upgrade
We still need the list spots to take 8 picks to the draft, would need to pretty much delist every player we have out of contract to do that
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