List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 4

[M0557]

the crazy bit is the head coach making the phone calls. WTF

Could be a bigger fire sale than the Pies last year.....

 

[Roachy8]

Dude had mexican last night and is working up to a trip to the dunny...

 

[Mr Magic]

I expect us to bid at 17 if he is not already gone. Gun

Which academy is that? GWS?

 

[SA_Tiger11]

heck, if Gunston was 27-28 I’d want us to have a huge crack at him.

I think his body may be cactus now.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Could be a bigger fire sale than the Pies last year.....

if they want picks and they’re that desperate they might have to pay some TPP as well

 

[tigs2010]

Then you are not 'earning' it either!

That did cross my mind after I posted.

 

[lumpinee]

as someone has mentioned Mitchell for #26 & we pay 500-550k over 3 yrs
we bundle 2 x 30's for low 20's
and go in with #7 #15 #22 ? & #28 + Tarrant & Mitchell

 

[archibald]

Mitchell & O’meara for 17, 28.

Keep 7 & 26.

Thats a nice blended brew.

 

[Sir_Loin]

as someone has mentioned Mitchell for #26 & we pay 500-550k over 3 yrs
we bundle 2 x 30's for low 20's
and go in with #7 #15 #22 ? & #28 + Tarrant & Mitchell

that would be day light robbery

 

[lumpinee]

that would be day light robbery

what about #22(if we can do a deal with FREM?)& our future 2nd for Mitchell ?
we will be expecting a GF berth on a deal like that

 

[G String]

What leverage do we have with Tarrant?

What is we want to include a trade with 38 and Tarrant later?

You say do a trade with Tarrant for a very late pick?

North want to get something back for him in a trade - but we can bluff that we'll take though FA, even tho its not in our interests. All we have is bluff at this stage but after today, we'll lose that leverage

 

[Sir_Loin]

what about #22(if we can do a deal with FREM?) for Mitchell ?

I can’t see the hawks moving Mitchell on for anything other than a first round pick. Maybe 17 and future second swap could get it done. Depends on how desperate they are

 

[Roksman]

Would rather get picks than make the same mistake Hawthorn did after their success.

Load up this year and we can worry about trading for players next season when Cotch and Jack retire (which appears likely).

Loading up on draftees this year will clear up cap space for next year.

 

[SA_Tiger11]

Mitchell & O’meara for 17, 28.

Keep 7 & 26.

Thats a nice blended brew.

Imagine.

O’meara, Cotch & Prestia could be fifo footballers. 1 week on 2 weeks off and we could just rotate them through to keep their body’s fresh.

Smart

 

[HumanMeatball]

Wingard is all for himself as pass on that

 

[NZ_Tiger]

I would take Wingard if the price was right

Toxic bloke by all accounts.


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[GhostofJimJess]

Wingard is all for himself as pass on that

Port Adelaide Players Hypnosis session

 

[Sir_Loin]

Toxic bloke by all accounts.


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And not a very good player any more

 

[TiggerMan22]

Would rather get picks than make the same mistake Hawthorn did after their success.

Load up this year and we can worry about trading for players next season when Cotch and Jack retire (which appears likely).

Loading up on draftees this year will clear up cap space for next year.

Hawks mistake was going ALL in on getting players in. If we can keep our top 2 picks and then bring in some players, then thats best of both words.

Hawks top #50 picks.
2012: #28
2013: #24, #38
2014: #31, #49
2015: #19, #22, #44
2016: 0
2017: #45
2018: 0

Then they started using picks again. So while they were at their peak, they barely used a first round pick. And when they the spot we are in now, where you coulg be on the way down. They burnt all their picks. 1 top #50 over 3 years.

Compare to us
2016: #29
2017: #17, #20, #25, #34
2018: #20, #43
2019: #21, #43, #44, #46
2020: #40
2021: #7, #15, #26, #28, #38, #42, #47* currently

I would be unhappy if we traded out #7 or #15. But I would be ok of just taking those 2 picks to the draft it it means we can bring in some talent like Mitchell and O'Meara.

 

[Mr Magic]

And not a very good player any more

We don't want Wingard when we have Bolton and Edwards already

I simply do not think Mitchell and the other HAwks will improve the team enough.

If Mitchell was a star team player it might be different but as a accumulator with minimal impact, nah

Even Gunston is not the player he was with body issues to. If Gunston returned and got some of his form back next year one might entertain it the year after

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Some people here have NFI.

Its frustrating to read.

Pick 6 = Reece Conca

6

Reece Conca

Age

32

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

MG

228.0

3star

D

13.8

3star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.5

3star

MG

228.0

3star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

Pick 12 = Ben Lennon

Ben Lennon

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.2

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.1

3star

G

0.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

0.6

3star

G

0.4

3star

Pick 1 = Paddy McCartin
Pick 4 = Richard Tambling

Richard Tambling

Age

38

Ht

180cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.9

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.4

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

.

What's more - it takes 5-6 years to figure out whether you've got a Jack Riewoldt or Scott Gumbleton

Scott Gumbleton

Age

36

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

.

We have a chance to win a premiership NOW.

If we do business with Hawthorn after the Robbie tarrant

6

Robbie Tarrant

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

284.7

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

11.9

5star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

359.3

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

move - ill love it - have some balls RFC.

 

[Cotchy9]

Some people here have NFI.

Its frustrating to read.

Pick 6 = Reece Conca
Pick 12 = Ben Lennon
Pick 1 = Paddy McCartin
Pick 4 = Richard Tambling.

What's more - it takes 5-6 years to figure out whether you've got a Jack Riewoldt or Scott Gumbleton.

We have a chance to win a premiership NOW.

If we do business with Hawthorn after the Robbie tarrant move - ill love it - have some balls RFC.

Agree. We aren’t winning another flag with our midfield the way it is. Get a clearance mid like Mitchell and we can put ourselves in the conversation

 

[Mr Magic]

Agree. We aren’t winning another flag with our midfield the way it is. Get a clearance mid like Mitchell and we can put ourselves in the conversation

Mitchell will not put us in the conversation, thats the point

 

[NZ_Tiger]

The same people suggesting we get older Hawthorn players will be the same people screaming about us having no good kids coming through in a few years time when the old Hawthorn players retire.

We’ve been hitting the draft the last 4 years and don’t have an abundance of talented kids. What’s recruiting Mitchell going to do?

If we continue to waste first round picks hitting the draft won’t work either.

Let’s hope we do what we said we would and balance our draft hand out and hit the draft, but this time nail some picks.


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[Sir_Loin]

Agree. We aren’t winning another flag with our midfield the way it is. Get a clearance mid like Mitchell and we can put ourselves in the conversation

I don’t want Mitchell but if we’re after him it can’t be for pick 7