List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 6

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If Koschitzke is the solution then clearly we don't have any problems. Unless we desperately need a new whipping boy to replace Castagna.
After listening to the podcast with Dylan Buckley and Dimma today, I feel very sorry for George. Pretty well hounded out of the game. Dimma was a HUGE rap for him and the unselfish and extremely important role he played in the side. The best and most understated of the role players in his opinion.
 
After listening to the podcast with Dylan Buckley and Dimma today, I feel very sorry for George. Pretty well hounded out of the game. Dimma was a HUGE rap for him and the unselfish and extremely important role he played in the side. The best and most understated of the role players in his opinion.
Funny thing is by R 3 or 4 he would have been a lock
 
After listening to the podcast with Dylan Buckley and Dimma today, I feel very sorry for George. Pretty well hounded out of the game. Dimma was a HUGE rap for him and the unselfish and extremely important role he played in the side. The best and most understated of the role players in his opinion.

It’s quite sad and disturbing. Many on this board didn’t hold back on tearing him apart. But won’t make rats of difference to many posters and social media users who think it’s their god given right
 
Depending on how his body holds up in a medical, I'd be keen on seeing whether we could prise Jiath loose from the Hawks over the next trade period or two.

With his height, pace and attack on the ball, he'd be an ideal ready-made replacement for either Kmac or Pickett on a wing. If there's one type we really don't have covered at all in the junior ranks, it's tall, better than average aerially, big bodied, hard running wingers.

Jiath ticks all those boxes and Hawthorn may be one of the few lists where his type is actually considered somewhat surplus to requirements. Coming from a club which is kinda forced to have Sicily as a captain speaks volumes for how much he might thrive Taranto style in a better environment. ;)
 
With a tight cap next year, we ain’t gonna be paying a player money to play elsewhere. Zero chance
You're not taking notice of the part where I included the trading out of Jack Graham. Simple maths - if Graham's salary is subtracted (and replaced by an absolute bottom-wage rookie) then that amount could be used to "buy" a first round draft pick if it's available (as in 2022 and quite a few drafts before that).

If you cannot see that, then by progression you must also think we have no money to pay Jack Graham next year.

If supporters are against such a ploy to "buy" a draft pick on some sort of weird philosophical grounds, then we might miss the boat. I cannot see any other reasonable way that we acquire a first round pick in 2023.

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Depending on how his body holds up in a medical, I'd be keen on seeing whether we could prise Jiath loose from the Hawks over the next trade period or two.

With his height, pace and attack on the ball, he'd be an ideal ready-made replacement for either Kmac or Pickett on a wing. If there's one type we really don't have covered at all in the junior ranks, it's tall, better than average aerially, big bodied, hard running wingers.

Jiath ticks all those boxes and Hawthorn may be one of the few lists where his type is actually considered somewhat surplus to requirements. Coming from a club which is kinda forced to have Sicily as a captain speaks volumes for how much he might thrive Taranto style in a better environment. ;)
Yeah, nice player. Could become anything.
 
At the risk of being shot down & derided on this thread, the player I’d look at from Hawks is Wingard. I know he’s 30, a flog and playing in the magoos, but he doesn’t fit their plans. He’s OOC this year so if he doesn’t get offered a contract, I’d pick him up for nothing a delisted FA. 2 years at $400k and you’d get a better player than an 18 yo draftee.
He is skillful, knows where the goals are and would help keep us challenging whilst the next crop develop.

come at me 😬😬.
 
At the risk of being shot down & derided on this thread, the player I’d look at from Hawks is Wingard. I know he’s 30, a flog and playing in the magoos, but he doesn’t fit their plans. He’s OOC this year so if he doesn’t get offered a contract, I’d pick him up for nothing a delisted FA. 2 years at $400k and you’d get a better player than an 18 yo draftee.
He is skillful, knows where the goals are and would help keep us challenging whilst the next crop develop.

come at me 😬😬.
Blues will get him.
 

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At the risk of being shot down & derided on this thread, the player I’d look at from Hawks is Wingard. I know he’s 30, a flog and playing in the magoos, but he doesn’t fit their plans. He’s OOC this year so if he doesn’t get offered a contract, I’d pick him up for nothing a delisted FA. 2 years at $400k and you’d get a better player than an 18 yo draftee.
He is skillful, knows where the goals are and would help keep us challenging whilst the next crop develop.

come at me 😬😬.
His career was shot before he arrived at haw , literally done nothing since arriving
 
You're not taking notice of the part where I included the trading out of Jack Graham. Simple maths - if Graham's salary is subtracted (and replaced by an absolute bottom-wage rookie) then that amount could be used to "buy" a first round draft pick if it's available (as in 2022 and quite a few drafts before that).

If you cannot see that, then by progression you must also think we have no money to pay Jack Graham next year.

If supporters are against such a ploy to "buy" a draft pick on some sort of weird philosophical grounds, then we might miss the boat. I cannot see any other reasonable way that we acquire a first round pick in 2023.


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Richmond’s brilliant mid-forward Shai Bolton will join footy’s exclusive group of millionaires from next year with his deal worth over $1.1 million a season.

Bolton signed a lucrative new five-year contract extension in late 2022 which starts next year but is currently in the last year of his existing deal worth around $600,000 a season.

The Herald Sun can reveal that five-year deal is worth well over $1 million a year and even has scope to hit $1.2 million if he ticks off every games-based and best-and-fairest clause.

The deal will mean that for a single season Richmond could have three million-dollar players as Dustin Martin finishes the final year of his seven-year $1.2 million contract and Tom Lynch’s back-ended deal continues until the end of 2025.

For Richmond it was a massive sum but it is understood rival clubs were offering more and had hoped to drag the 24-year-old out of Richmond.

Shai Bolton’s new deal kicks in next year. Picture: Getty Images

Shai Bolton’s new deal kicks in next year. Picture: Getty Images

It will lead to a short-term salary squeeze but Richmond is confident it can balance its books on a list that currently has 19 players 22 or under.

The Bolton deal was signed only months after the dual premiership player became a first-time All Australian as a player who kicked 43 goals and added 83 clearances to go with his 403 possessions in his breakout 2022 season.

Bolton finished fourth in the club’s best-and-fairest last year but as a dual threat capable of causing havoc up forward and winning crucial centre-square clearances he is the centrepiece of the club’s future plans.

Richmond still has cap space to acquire a replacement forward for Jack Riewoldt as it chases GWS free agent Harry Himmelberg.

Martin expects to see out the final year of his deal in 2024 and then play on - whether at Richmond or another club - while Trent Cotchin and Jack Riewoldt are considered likely to retire this year.

Richmond is still targeting Harry Himmelberg. Picture: Getty Images

Richmond is still targeting Harry Himmelberg. Picture: Getty Images

It will save the Tigers some cap space even after the pair took pay cuts this year to play on, but Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are due around $750,000 for the life of their seven-year contracts.

Martin would take a significant pay cut for 2025, with AFL clubs expecting the salary cap to rise as much as 20 per cent in the next four years.

Clubs ideally only want to pay two million dollar players on their list at any one time but Richmond has long been a club that has paid up for its mega-stars while being responsible with salaries for role players and emerging kids.

West Coast will this year have two million dollar players on its list but Jeremy McGovern’s contract ends this year and Tim Kelly’s deal is back-ended in the next three years but averages at only $850,000 a season.

Fremantle is paying Nathan Fyfe $1.1 million a season but that deal expires this year as the club begins a five-year deal with Luke Jackson worth on average $900,000 a season - with a two-year trigger clause through to 2029.
 
So what do you think was done with the cash that we didnt end up paying the players that left we wanted to keep ?
Im sure we didnt just let it evaporate and would have paid some of the Dusty / Lynch contracts up front

Not to mention we would or are 1 of the main clubs in talks with HH

We are now a very well run club and wont have an issue
Then when Lynch & Dusty's deals are complete and the Cap increases then we have another 3-4 million spare

So we may as well get the players we want to remain ontop whilst not having a 1st round pick
Remain on top? We have not been near it since 2020. 3 years on we could have had more top draft picks by now and we could now be looking at bringing in some mature talent to surge up again.
 
At the risk of being shot down & derided on this thread, the player I’d look at from Hawks is Wingard. I know he’s 30, a flog and playing in the magoos, but he doesn’t fit their plans. He’s OOC this year so if he doesn’t get offered a contract, I’d pick him up for nothing a delisted FA. 2 years at $400k and you’d get a better player than an 18 yo draftee.
He is skillful, knows where the goals are and would help keep us challenging whilst the next crop develop.

come at me 😬😬.
i just threw up in your general direction
 
He’s kicked like 6G ytd at vfl and *ers around here think he’s Min r2 ,,, they’d take that and run like hell , heck they accepted that for Mitchell

He's absolutely putrid. I was shocked to see him in the team on Sunday and was hurling abuse through the tube at Sam Mitchell every time Kosi got near the ball. It was borderline tanking playing him.
 
At the risk of being shot down & derided on this thread, the player I’d look at from Hawks is Wingard. I know he’s 30, a flog and playing in the magoos, but he doesn’t fit their plans. He’s OOC this year so if he doesn’t get offered a contract, I’d pick him up for nothing a delisted FA. 2 years at $400k and you’d get a better player than an 18 yo draftee.
He is skillful, knows where the goals are and would help keep us challenging whilst the next crop develop.

come at me 😬😬.
Magic, is that you?
The good news is that now, no matter what anybody puts up, their's will not be the stupidest idea in this thread.
Well done Keilor. Outstanding. Your sacrifice will be remembered.
 
There is also another GWS player that would be worth having a look at that currently cannot get a game but has shown some really nice form in the VFL Wade Derksen 196cm 93kgs 22 year old
I mentioned him a short while ago , a MSD pic , his numbers at VFL are excellent , avg 2-3g a game , shit Tonne of marks 12+ posies,, we’d be shooting our collective loly if we had someone doing that at VFL ea week
 
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