List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 7

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Spoiler: 2023 Draft Order

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Order, aka Future Picks

Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

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[Wooden Robot]

Is Gibcus as good as what people make him out to be - great to compare his stats with Tyler Young

He was decent.
A mix of good games, reasonable, poor and mediocre … as a first year player does put together.
Showed great potential of being better than average but we’ll likely never know

 

[SplintWhisky]

He was good in his first season given he’s a 196cm KPD. His athleticism is ridiculous and just from his junior highlights you know he’s something special…. let’s pray he gets his body right. Having said that he won’t be at his peak until 23yo onwards.


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Kid has a freakish as hell leap. Always remember him being the highest in the pack right at the back

 

[tiger_tough]

We didn't, he was relisted so is not an Unrestricted Free Agent.

Checked Footywire which shows Kosi out of contract next year, which is also incorrect.

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

www.footywire.com

Herald sun are misinformed then.

 

[JR82]

We must have done well.
Not much coming out of the Tin Foil camp.

We certainly won't be hearing much if anything about our draft hand/future picks anymore. Hasn't that all taken a turn...

 

[JR82]

Interesting the chat about Kosi playing back. Yze might think that's his best spot as he was drafted as a CHB who seemed to struggle at AFL level in this role early on. Matured a bit and maybe ready to be tried there again???

If he could hold down CHB, it would be bloody delicious and allow Balta to play FF and 2nd ruck, or FF full time with Ryan chopping out.

Newy has coached him for 4 yrs so clearly rates him. As u mention he certainly gives us options

 

[GoTigers2015]

Perfect pair of key defenders Young and Gibcus. Young has shown he can lock down and play off his man, so will get the main forward. Gibbo with his athletic profile will rule the air in the back line and propel attacks.

Grimes has been the perfect hybrid defender. Kills the most dangerous forward - victims Stringer, Charlie Cameron

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Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

, Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

...
Will need to be managed to get the best out of him in what looks to be his final year of footy.

Vlastuin, Broad, Rioli are still very good defenders and Shorty also plays best down back.
Balta or Kosi to play as the 3rd KPD

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Greene or Mannagh?

 

[Bojangles17]

Ollie and Elijah are the sons of Ben who used to play with the tigers right?

Yerrrrp , he’s always been a keen blues fan tho by the looks , the y&b bug didn’t bite

 

[Bojangles17]

Greene or Mannagh?

Mannagh for mine , Bauer should get a crack at the third tall posi

 

[Rubber Hips]

Greene or Mannagh?

Both?…neither?

greene would be my pick however you have to ask why was he delisted?
mannagh racks them up and seems more hardened consistent performer….but that’s at VFL level

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Both?…neither?

greene would be my pick however you have to ask why was he delisted?
mannagh racks them up and seems more hardened consistent performer….but that’s at VFL level

Yeah leaning towards Mannagh.

 

[Hoos]

Yerrrrp , he’s always been a keen blues fan tho by the looks , the y&b bug didn’t bite

Probably because his dad only played a handful of games.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Tommy Morris has been spending too much time with Korn. I’m not saying we had a great trade period by any stretch. But getting a need filled with Kosi for a bag of chips, and 2 x 2nd rounders for a back-up ruck was pretty solid business given the lack of assets we had …. Morris rated us 18th… below Freo who got nobody and lost Schulz and Henry, two very important and promising players in their prime.

And below Cats who also got nobody and lost a 25 KPD hitting his prime for 1 x 2nd rounder and some garbage picks.

The hate is strong amongst the media … very strong ….


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[4tune8]

Tommy Morris has been spending too much time with Korn. I’m not saying we had a great trade period by any stretch. But getting a need filled with Kosi for a bag of chips, and 2 x 2nd rounders for a back-up ruck was pretty solid business given the lack of assets we had …. Morris rated us 18th… below Freo who got nobody and lost Schulz and Henry, two very important and promising players in their prime.

And below Cats who also got nobody and lost a 25 KPD hitting his prime for 1 x 2nd rounder and some garbage picks.

The hate is strong amongst the media … very strong ….


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In a village full of idiots, he is the village idiot

 

[Morro]

That’s arguable tho structure wise an improvement with McKay , Gresham is crap , Goldstein is now invisible , read same for duursma , who else they get

Thats just Bias.

Mckay now their best KPD by a mile
Gresham is not crap, averages 20 possies and a goal - walk up start best 22
Duursma at his best or close to will easily be best 22 - he plays every game now unless injured
Goldstein will play alot of footy and will be serviceable

Cost them **** all and now still have all their picks to hit the draft, its bias to suggest they didn't do well in a year where there wants much to choose from.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Tommy Morris has been spending too much time with Korn. I’m not saying we had a great trade period by any stretch. But getting a need filled with Kosi for a bag of chips, and 2 x 2nd rounders for a back-up ruck was pretty solid business given the lack of assets we had …. Morris rated us 18th… below Freo who got nobody and lost Schulz and Henry, two very important and promising players in their prime.

And below Cats who also got nobody and lost a 25 KPD hitting his prime for 1 x 2nd rounder and some garbage picks.

The hate is strong amongst the media … very strong ….


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It is laughable that Tom Morris should even be on air sitting in judgement of the list management at clubs. He has exactly zero expertise in the matter. I was able to listen for about 4 clubs worth of his esteemed judgements. He was criticising clubs for not doing enough in the trade period as if making bad moves is better list management practice than making no moves.

 

[fargothegreat]

Thats just Bias.

Mckay now their best KPD by a mile
Gresham is not crap, averages 20 possies and a goal - walk up start best 22
Duursma at his best or close to will easily be best 22 - he plays every game now unless injured
Goldstein will play alot of footy and will be serviceable

Cost them * all and now still have all their picks to hit the draft, its bias to suggest they didn't do well in a year where there wants much to choose from.

I thik the criticism is that they spent elite-level money to bring in mid-range players.

 

[one eyedtiger]

A longer chat with Hartley

Blair Hartley on SEN's The Run Home

Richmond GM of Football Talent Blair Hartley joins SEN's The Run Home to discuss the outcome of the 2023 AFL Trade Period.

www.richmondfc.com.au

 

[Morro]

I thik the criticism is that they spent elite-level money to bring in mid-range players.

Agree mate, but thats not the argumemnt in here for the most part. Its also relative, they have so much cap space that they need to spend it somewhere.

 

[fargothegreat]

A longer chat with Hartley

Blair Hartley on SEN's The Run Home

Richmond GM of Football Talent Blair Hartley joins SEN's The Run Home to discuss the outcome of the 2023 AFL Trade Period.

www.richmondfc.com.au

Brought up potentially taking a delisted FA to cover us in the ruck, which was interesting.

 

[_Wang_]

Agree mate, but thats not the argumemnt in here for the most part. Its also relative, they have so much cap space that they need to spend it somewhere.

calm down tough guy

 

[Noidnadroj]

Thats just Bias.

Mckay now their best KPD by a mile
Gresham is not crap, averages 20 possies and a goal - walk up start best 22
Duursma at his best or close to will easily be best 22 - he plays every game now unless injured
Goldstein will play alot of footy and will be serviceable

Cost them * all and now still have all their picks to hit the draft, its bias to suggest they didn't do well in a year where there wants much to choose from.

I think their team in 2024 is better ‘man for man’ than it was in 2023, but this doesn’t automatically
mean they’ve done well. Committing to McKay, Gresham and Duursma for 4+ years on a combined ballpark of $2m/season may or may not prove to be prudent use of their salary cap, regardless of not costing them much in draft picks.



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[Coach_Required]

Tommy Morris has been spending too much time with Korn. I’m not saying we had a great trade period by any stretch. But getting a need filled with Kosi for a bag of chips, and 2 x 2nd rounders for a back-up ruck was pretty solid business given the lack of assets we had …. Morris rated us 18th… below Freo who got nobody and lost Schulz and Henry, two very important and promising players in their prime.

And below Cats who also got nobody and lost a 25 KPD hitting his prime for 1 x 2nd rounder and some garbage picks.

The hate is strong amongst the media … very strong ….


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I really don't mind reading that though, so often these media experts come out and make these statements and end up with egg on their faces.
Chat around us having to rebuild after 2016, West Coast tipped for the spoon in 2018 etc, etc the list goes on. Gives me a bit of hope that things might not be as bad as it seems.

 

[_RT_]

We didn't, he was relisted so is not an Unrestricted Free Agent.

Checked Footywire which shows Kosi out of contract next year, which is also incorrect.

AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024

List of AFL players coming out of contract at the end of 2024.

www.footywire.com

Historic Tiger among four delistings ... but lifelines are on the way

Richmond cuts four players from its list following the 2021 season

www.afl.com.au

Noah was delisted and then re-rookied, which makes him an unrestricted free agent end of 2024

 

[tunksy]

Thats just Bias.

Mckay now their best KPD by a mile
Gresham is not crap, averages 20 possies and a goal - walk up start best 22
Duursma at his best or close to will easily be best 22 - he plays every game now unless injured
Goldstein will play alot of footy and will be serviceable

Cost them * all and now still have all their picks to hit the draft, its bias to suggest they didn't do well in a year where there wants much to choose from.

Goldy will also take pressure off Draper and allow him to rest forward where he’s been dangerous.