Mega Thread Trade Targets 2014

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Doesn't matter as much for what he's worth but for what he may get us.

If #23 is just enough to satisfy GWS for Jaksch, then we're some way in front.

Keeping our first pick in tact is very important.

So we are essentially trading a forward who has kicked 50 goals in a year, and our second round pick for Jaksch then.

Not so sure that's right either.

There's also no guarantee that pick will get the job done either.
 
No crumbing small forwards now. If we get jones and Jaksch our tall forward problem is fixed but will have a small forward problem instead.

Think the "small forward" problem wanted to be evened to medium forwards with the small forward changed up to have midfielders taking that spot and hitting the scoreboard. Thomas, Everitt, Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Yarran
Menzel, Walker will be medium forwards for 2015 and someone like Tutt may be played through there if we take him up but also pushing into the midfield rotations.
 

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So we are essentially trading a forward who has kicked 50 goals in a year, and our second round pick for Jaksch then.

Not so sure that's right either.

There's also no guarantee that pick will get the job done either.

Fair to say we would only do a swap of 2nd rounders if GWS says 23 will be enough.

Think we would work something else out if its a no go
 
Fair to say we would only do a swap of 2nd rounders if GWS says 23 will be enough.

Think we would work something else out if its a no go

Exactly. It will be a 3 way trade to guarantee it.
 
Sorry for the intrusion but given your interest in Jones and Tutt and Garlett wanting to go to melbourne what would your thoughts on a three way trade be something like
Carlton Receive: Jones and Tutt Carlton lose: Garlett and pick 45
Dees Receive: Garlett and Picks 6 and 45 Dees: lose Pick 3
Dogs Receive: pick 3 Dogs lose: Jones and Tutt and Pick 6
Tutt doesn't add anything to any trade scenario...if we pick him up it would be a nothing pick. Garlett and 45 for Jones appears to be exactly one Garlett too much.
 
What are Melbourne going to get from the Micth Clarke trade?

Could that be involved in the Garlett trade?
 
Their second pick for our 2nd pick and Jeffy - not our 3rd pick.

GWS would want closer to #28 and #23 than just #23 I'd say, especially if the value is around #14. Just seems silly that dropping 5 spots hits their mark when our originally 2nd round pick before Higgins and Frawley compo was #26.
 
Of all clubs to go to Jeffy, why would you want to go to Melbourne. God I hope we ask for too much and he stays with us and kicks 40 next year.
 

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GWS would want closer to #28 and #23 than just #23 I'd say, especially if the value is around #14. Just seems silly that dropping 5 spots hits their mark when our originally 2nd round pick before Higgins and Frawley compo was #26.

You may well be correct and it wouldn't surprise should we have to add something on top of that pick to get Jaksch over the line.

I am simply going on the assumption that we've offered our 2nd pick and St Kilda have offered theirs. Given that Jaksch has expressed a preference to come to Carlton, you'd think if we got our hands on what is currently pick 23 and offered that, GWS would trade with us rather than accept St Kilda's pick which is just one better than the one we'd be offering.
 
No crumbing small forwards now. If we get jones and Jaksch our tall forward problem is fixed but will have a small forward problem instead.

Yarran and Menzel, backup Ellard. Hawks do okay with creative mid-sized forwards like Breust. Cyril doesn't count, doesn't kick enough goals to be a true small forward.

So we are essentially trading a forward who has kicked 50 goals in a year, and our second round pick for Jaksch then.

Considering how many second round picks we've burnt to the ground in the last ten years (i.e. all of them, okay, most of them), and the fact that the 50 goal small forward doesn't want to play with us, I'm very okay with this.
 
Considering how many second round picks we've burnt to the ground in the last ten years (i.e. all of them, okay, most of them), and the fact that the 50 goal small forward doesn't want to play with us, I'm very okay with this.

Yes, but if we are going to start pushing up the ladder we need to start nailing those sort of picks anyway.
 
Sorry for the intrusion but given your interest in Jones and Tutt and Garlett wanting to go to melbourne what would your thoughts on a three way trade be something like
Carlton Receive: Jones and Tutt Carlton lose: Garlett and pick 45
Dees Receive: Garlett and Picks 6 and 45 Dees: lose Pick 3
Dogs Receive: pick 3 Dogs lose: Jones and Tutt and Pick 6



Or how about

Carlton loses #7, Garlett and #45. Receives pick #3
Melbourne lose #3. Receive #7, Garlett and #45.


Sorry but if Garlett and #45 can be used to elevate a pick to #3 then why wouldn't Carlton just do a trade directly with Melbourne and gut the WB out of it ??? That said Melbourne would simply laugh at the idea.
 
On Jeff Garlett: "It will get done (moving to Carlton), I've spoken to Andrew McKay and Josh Mahoney. Essendon were in it as well. Roosy wants him not just in the forward pocked but more up the ground using his speed."

Any issues of players going to Essendon?
"It didn't affect Jeff, but I think there still is a massive question mark on what is happening at Essendon, whereas Melbourne is settled on their coaching staff."

"There were a number of reasons Jeff dropped off this year, injuring his shoulder at the start of the year and a few little off-field things. He just wasn't settled, we've been working pretty hard on the welfare side of it and he'll get a fresh start now."
 
Why the actual **** wouldn't they. Not every ******* player can be a 1st round pick. Wouldn't mind just getting pick 23 and keeping it if that's the case.

Not every ***** player that is in our reach is named Jaksch, that's why.
 
On Jeff Garlett: "It will get done (moving to Carlton), I've spoken to Andrew McKay and Josh Mahoney. Essendon were in it as well. Roosy wants him not just in the forward pocked but more up the ground using his speed."

Any issues of players going to Essendon?
"It didn't affect Jeff, but I think there still is a massive question mark on what is happening at Essendon, whereas Melbourne is settled on their coaching staff."

"There were a number of reasons Jeff dropped off this year, injuring his shoulder at the start of the year and a few little off-field things. He just wasn't settled, we've been working pretty hard on the welfare side of it and he'll get a fresh start now."



The funny part there is the conformation that even Melbourne is a more attractive club for recruits than *. Sure we all know it is, and why, but confirmation is always amusing ......
 
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