MRP / Trib. Tribunal Thread - rules and offences discombobulation

[Willsy10]

I'm expecting 5-6 and in the end, lesson learned, we move on.

The only lesson learned from that will be that our players get screwed over much worse than others, and i would then be worried about what effect that will have on players such as SPP that like to play an aggressive contested style on the edge, a style of play that has actually made him a cult figure at the club. Yes he got this one wrong but 5-6 is absolutely ridiculous.

I hope round 1 doesn't roll around and the same people calling for ridiculous suspensions are then up in arms when our players start shirking contests because they are worried of the ramifications if they go in too hard and get it wrong.

 

[VineValerian]

AFL pushing for 4, so it will probably be 3.

I've seen a few posters here elucidating several logical, inteligently thought through, and valid reasons that would not get SPP off a suspension, but would mitigate the severity of said penalty.
I think we all agree he will go down, but differ in our opinions as to by how much.

But now he's come out and blithely stated 'yep, I did bump him, I meant to bump him, and I messed up' then no point even wating time fronting up to any hearing imho. Just sit here and wait for the verdict. Pleading for any diminution of the suspension is pointless.

I reckon 4 weeks for the act, plus another 4 weeks for stupidity in giving himself no option of any degree of clemency!

 

[VineValerian]

I think this is the most logical thing you've ever said

But pointless now that he's said he deliberately bumped him.

 

[Willsy10]

The goal posts keep shifting with this one each day as the narrative intensifies, how on earth has this one suddenly become a 5 to 6 week suspension? one of which we are expected to just roll over and cop it. It looked no worse than 2-3 max, now we are looking at double that.

 

[Harlott]

I'm expecting 5-6 and in the end, lesson learned, we move on.

Quarter of a season? Don’t think so.

 

[Willsy10]

Geez, I dont know why the mob continue with their bullshyte argument defending SPP.

Listen to the man himself: "I didnt mean to do it. I play tough, but fair. This time, I got it wrong." Good on ya Pep!

For God's sake people, let it go and move on!!!

i think what some of us are doing is defending the length of suspension from some of the hyperbole being thrown around, we are being programmed to settle for 5-6 weeks and i'm arguing against that, because i don't think that is fair.

 

[bringbackbucky]

I think the head coach should be held accountable as well. Make an example out of him and ban him for the season...

 

[EskimoPAFC]

7-9 is likely, reckon we end up right in the middle at 8

 

[Willsy10]

7-9 is likely, reckon we end up right in the middle at 8

may as well round it off at 10

 

[TeeKray]

I think it'll be 3-4. Any more than 4 and you leave yourself little room to go when there is a bump with more intent or a bump that knocks a player out cold or results in facial fractures, etc.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

may as well round it off at 10

They may well do.

We can't count our chickens though, 11 could absolutely be on the table if they really want to send a message to the competition.

 

[Willsy10]

They may well do.

We can't count our chickens though, 11 could absolutely be on the table if they really want to send a message to the competition.

maybe 14, double the Barry Hall on Brent Staker punch seems about right.

 

[bringbackbucky]

Wonder if they'll send Horsface Hussey to cover the tribunal hearing...

 

[Spadge]

would love to see the media narrative if it was a collingwood, richmond or carlton player instead of SPP

No doubt they would be calling for a 5-6 suspension for Keane for making contact with the victorian players shoulder

 

[Scodges]

Geez, I dont know why the mob continue with their bullshyte argument defending SPP.

Listen to the man himself: "I didnt mean to do it. I play tough, but fair. This time, I got it wrong." Good on ya Pep!

For God's sake people, let it go and move on!!!

Of course he has to say that.


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[Scodges]

I'm not saying they're the same, I'm just saying you can legally do both but if you get them wrong you'll get penalised. So this outcry about the death of the bump is a bit over the top.

Sadly these suspensions will eventually see it completely gone.
The bump is actually a really clumsy part of footy, you’re bound to get it wrong. I say play on, that’s just my view.


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[Festerz]

The goal posts keep shifting with this one each day as the narrative intensifies, how on earth has this one suddenly become a 5 to 6 week suspension? one of which we are expected to just roll over and cop it. It looked no worse than 2-3 max, now we are looking at double that.

Dead right

Just yesterday most here and in the media were saying 2-3 weeks - careless/high contact/high impact. Buckley on SEN was saying 2 looked about right.

Now the narrative is that the AFL is seeking a 'minimum of 4 weeks' from the Tribunal. So we should all be thankful if he just gets 4 right?

And the rhetoric from the AFL media will be that he got off lightly.

 

[Scodges]

He didn't need to bump. And he didn't need to tackle either.

One bloke tackling should always be enough. The 2nd bloke should stay out of it and be ready for the ball to spill out. But for some reason our blokes are taught to gang tackle, which always leaves us outnumbered on the outside

Love Peps, but he deserves whatever he gets for this.

And you think no other team gang tackles ? Ok, sure.


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[Scodges]

Don’t know how anyone can argue this. He chose to bump, was reckless and hit the guy in the head, which left him concussed. It’s as simple as that. He will get 3 and deserves 3. Was incredibly dumb.

Does not matter at all that Rioli spun Keane into him, he still chose to bump and hit him high.

He chose to bump, which is actually legal. You’ll get a high contact 5 times out of 10. Ban the bump or play on.


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[Festerz]

But now he's come out and blithely stated 'yep, I did bump him, I meant to bump him, and I messed up' then no point even wating time fronting up to any hearing imho. Just sit here and wait for the verdict. Pleading for any diminution of the suspension is pointless.

Really? I heard him saying he was sorry for the outcome, saying he never meant to hit the head and that he got it wrong but not in the way you're claiming.

Got a link?

But a bump is still legal in our game isn't it? So while SPP is ultimately responsible for the outcome of bumping surely intent and context are taken into account in sentencing?

 

[chiwigi]

Really? I heard him saying he was sorry for the outcome and that he got it wrong but not in the way you're claiming.

Got a link?

Bumping isn’t a crime anyway.
That’s what’s wrong with this whole shambles.

 

[bringbackbucky]

And you think no other team gang tackles ? Ok, sure.

Of course other teams gang tackle. Doesn't make it right.

2 players tackling 1 player means you are automatically outnumbered somewhere else. It's poor football.

 

[TeeKray]

Defending this bump on the basis that the bump is legal is like defending a dangerous sling tackle that causes a concussion on the basis that tackling is legal.

Bumping is legal when executed correctly. Bumping is not legal when executed incorrectly.

 

[simba_]

the one that still gets me is when Kane Cornes was the first-ever footballer to be "officially investigated for staging", years after it became a bona fide thing. they just do this stuff to rile us up, it's evil but it's true

 

[elsler]

herein lies the reason why footy is almost dead to me