US Election 2020: President Elect Biden and VP Elect Harris

The Next President and VP will be?

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Now we have most of the main players confirmed its time to start the thread on this Pence I assume will be Trumps VP - but I will leave the ? until confirmed https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20210120T09&p0=900&msg=Inauguration+2021&font=sanserif
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Poor Form said:
Walls being built, child traffickers being locked up, peace being distributed everywhere, soldiers coming out of warzones, economy at record highs and now bouncing back from communist made disaster, criminal justice reform passed, WWIII not yet started (when will you get on with it Orange warmonger!), China finally being confronted, european nations being forced to pay for their own defence, closer ties to traditional allies.

n0 sUbStaNcE here!
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What? 200 k out of a 3000 k wall, he had to build cause his grandstanding to Mexico saw them go away.
 
FireKrakouer said:
But he's pulling out all the mailboxes! You're trying to convince people who get their news in the form of tweets 😂
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Lucky Trump doesn't use Twitter then, hey
 

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The one thing that I don't understand about those who support Biden (be they the MSM, the Swamp, traditional Dem voters or the great indoctrinated around the world suckling at the teat of the MSM and the Dems corporate donors) is this.

The "in vogue" thing is to dislike Trumps abrasive nature, his tendency to oversimplify, to fudge the numbers when he's talking etc. This has led to the perception that he's "too stupid" to have the role or that he's "incompetent" This is despite the fact the world has been fine with him as President and America has previously had quite prosperous years and is now struggling in COVID like the rest of the world. This all leads to those Biden supporters putting forward the argument that Trump is "unfit" to be President.

Can someone, with true honesty, come forward and explain to me how they think Biden. Who is clearly senile and can barely string a sentence together. How is he not equally unfit?

It doesn't make sense to me. Sure support Bernie or Gabbard or whoever over Trump if you think they're more competent. But Joe clearly is not.
 
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magpie_marty said:
Michelle Obama speaks so well displaying empathy,feelings,compassion,honesty :clapping:
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She was fantastic, spoke well, passionately. Looked straight into the camera as if talking to just you. That is how your read a speech.

In fact I thought it was a good first day especially on the emphasis by all on the 'we'.

I thought Bernie was also very good, one of his best.

Can just see Trump's version, me, me, me. Looking at telepromter, swaying from side to side and speaking the words in a sing song manner.

Can't wait.
 
FlowersByIrene said:
The one thing that I don't understand about those who support Biden (be they the MSM, the Swamp, traditional Dem voters or the great indoctrinated around the world suckling at the teat of the MSM and the Dems corporate donors) is this.

The "in vogue" thing is to dislike Trumps abrasive nature, his tendency to oversimplify, to fudge the numbers when he's talking etc. This has led to the perception that he's "too stupid" to have the role or that he's "incompetent" This is despite the fact the world has been fine with him as President and America has previously had quite prosperous years and is now struggling in COVID like the rest of the world. This all leads to those Biden supporters putting forward the argument that Trump is "unfit" to be President.

Can someone, with true honesty, come forward and explain to me how they think Biden. Who is clearly senile and can barely string a setence together. How is he not equally unfit?

It doesn't make sense to me. Sure support Bernie or Gabbard or whoever over Trump if you think they're more competent. But Joe clearly is not.
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I don't think he has much actual support at all, its just a case of anyone but Trump and the primaries made it pretty clear Bernie wasn't an option for the voting public (jokes on them I guess).

There's probably also a perception that Biden will at tick the admin boxes associated with the office, at least fill positions and put competent staff in place as opposed to Donnie's lickspittles, while avoiding the revolving door scenario we've seen with Trump. I'm guessing the calculus is probably that Biden will listen to these people rather than go with the anti-expert 'gut' approach favoured by Trump.
 

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I don't think he has much actual support at all, its just a case of anyone but Trump and the primaries made it pretty clear Bernie wasn't an option for the voting public (jokes on them I guess).

There's probably also a perception that Biden will at tick the admin boxes associated with the office, at least fill positions and put competent staff in place as opposed to Donnie's lickspittles, while avoiding the revolving door scenario we've seen with Trump. I'm guessing the calculus is probably that Biden will listen to these people rather than go with the anti-expert 'gut' approach favoured by Trump.
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Fair enough, it's a pretty big assumption to rely on, that the system will make up for Biden's failings.


Could be poignant in the result as those anti-Swamp definitely wouldn't be feeling that way.
 
FlowersByIrene said:
Fair enough, it's a pretty big assumption to rely on, that the system will make up for Biden's failings.


Could be poignant in the result as those anti-Swamp definitely wouldn't be feeling that way.
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Agree. Just goes to show you how badly Trump has stuffed up lately that Democrats are comfortable going with that approach and seeing the lead in polls that they are.
 
bourbons said:
Yeah like I said, he seems to have managed. Or are you seriously trying argue Donnie is a man of 'substance'?

Ps. nice work with "peace being distributed everywhere", enjoyed that one cheers :tearsofjoy:
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Well his predecessor distributed bombs via drones, so I thought its a nice turn of phrase.

Absolutely Trump is a man of substance, everything he's done he promised to do, in spite of the attempts to stymie him with lies and deception ultimately treason really.

FireKrakouer said:
But he's pulling out all the mailboxes! You're trying to convince people who get their news in the form of tweets 😂
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He even took the one at the end of my street! 3 years ago, truly the orange man was plotting this from years ago to have the foresight to take my local box

campbell said:
What? 200 k out of a 3000 k wall, he had to build cause his grandstanding to Mexico saw them go away.
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Yep after the dems wanted 0 and refused to compromise at all, very strong work from him in spite of the opposition.
 
Balls In said:
How she managed to read and look at a camera is beyond me.
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I know, first time you got something right.

Balls In said:
Queen Jacinda just delayed NZ election due to 50 Corona cases. Media = silence.
Trump tweets a suggestion of delaying due to high US cases. Media = Tyrant!!
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Oh spoke too soon. Nice deflection though.
 
Poor Form said:
Well his predecessor distributed bombs via drones, so I thought its a nice turn of phrase.
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You do know that civilian deaths from US air strikes have increased under Trump's admin, yeah? :drunk:

Poor Form said:
Absolutely Trump is a man of substance, everything he's done he promised to do, in spite of the attempts to stymie him with lies and deception ultimately treason really.
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Thought this couldn't get any funnier, my bad.

You should take this show on the road :tearsofjoy:
 
bourbons said:
You do know that civilian deaths from US air strikes have increased under Trump's admin, yeah? :drunk:



Thought this couldn't get any funnier, my bad.

You should take this show on the road :tearsofjoy:
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No I wasn't aware of that "fact".

What is the substance of a politician? Their policies and how they follow through with them I would have thought, from that measure Trump is the most substantive politician we've seen in decades. Biden actually is also quite a man of substance, the substance is toxic corruption but its still substance.
 
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