US Election 2020: President Elect Biden and VP Elect Harris

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That's hilarious. Trump taps into hate and fear and encourages his supporters to as well.

Hate and fear is Trump's platform. Love of country and decency is what Biden's supporters voted for.

Yep, it’s hilarious when we are told that the left is based on fear, old mate yebiga is the worst offender.

Trump drummed up fear of illegal immigrants, low income housing in the suburbs, ANTEEEFA, radical left, Muslims etc.

I wonder if all those combined have killed 250 people in last 9 months, let alone 250,000.
 

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Yep, but it will remain factual to the right and they will use it as an example that the left are the ones starting all of the violence.

But that's the problem with Trumpists. They live in an alternate reality where the following demonstrably and obviously false statements are true to them:

- ANTIFA is just as bad as Right wing terrorism
- The Russians didn't rig the 2016 election
- No collusion
- The Democrats rigged the 2020 election
- Donald Trump is not a divisive figure
- Fox News is a balanced centrist source of information
- The Nazis were left wing
- Biden is a Socialist
- COVID is just going to go away on its own
- Lockdowns and/or masks dont work to slow or stop the spread of COVID
- The Democrats are in league with Hollywood and 'international banking cabals' to farm out children for Satanic cannibal Paedo orgies
- Donald Trump is fighting a secret war against said padeo conspiracy
- Climate change isnt happening, or if it is its good for us
- More guns make us safer
- The Jews did it
- Soros and Gates are trying to microchip us via a COVID Vaccine
- 5G causes COVID
- All Muslims are terrorists

And on, and on and on and on it goes. It's literally a wholly different reality to... well.. reality.
 
But that's the problem with Trumpists. They live in an alternate reality where the following demonstrably and obviously false statements are true to them:

- ANTIFA is just as bad as Right wing terrorism
- The Russians didn't rig the 2016 election
- No collusion
- The Democrats rigged the 2020 election
- Donald Trump is not a divisive figure
- Fox News is a balanced centrist source of information
- The Nazis were left wing
- Biden is a Socialist
- COVID is just going to go away on its own
- Lockdowns and/or masks dont work to slow or stop the spread of COVID
- The Democrats are in league with Hollywood and 'international banking cabals' to farm out children for Satanic cannibal Paedo orgies
- Donald Trump is fighting a secret war against said padeo conspiracy
- Climate change isnt happening, or if it is its good for us
- More guns make us safer
- The Jews did it
- Soros and Gates are trying to microchip us via a COVID Vaccine
- 5G causes COVID
- All Muslims are terrorists

And on, and on and on and on it goes. It's literally a wholly different reality to... well.. reality.

All true, except they now think Fox News is liberal.
 
Yeah but does TAFE count as a college education - a four week block like what an apprentice electrician would do?

Asking for a friend

If that education included a lesson on what happened in the dying days of Weimar Germany, with ANTIFA fighting street battles against Far Right wing militias on the street during an economic downturn, while a Far Right wing leader attempted to shore up absolute power, while passing legislation to delegitimise and criminalise the Socialists and supporting the Far Right wing militias, with the support of the working class white majority.

It's spooky the similarities between Germany in the 1930's and the USA nearly 100 years later. We've learnt nothing.

Pro Trumpists... guess which side you're on? The Brownshirts or those that opposed them?
 
It's a little hard to argue against bigoted hate speech, that is usually false, and even when proven false, that proof doesn't dissuade the person posting it.

The reality is, Trump supporters on here are mostly either trolls, or members of the Far-Right with views that would make Frasier Anning blush, or both.

Im down with a discussion of Trumps actual policies. But you dont get that from Trumpists. You get bizarre conspiracy theories about ANTIFA, Paedos, Pizzas and Panda eyes, erroneous claims of mass Voter fraud, doctored videos, regurgitated posts from far right wing grifters or Neo Nazi sites, pictures of Pepe the Frog, denialism about climate change, denial of the threat of Far Right wing terrorists and even posts asserting that Nazis are a far left wing political ideology.

How can you rationally discuss a false reality with people? We're so fractured that you blokes on the Right literally live in a different reality to the rest of us. How can we ever find any middle ground there?

It's unfortunate because the rise of the Right wing (and Far right) among predominantly white, non college educated, male, working and middle class voters should be examined. That is a demographic that has been left behind by globalism, and they're turning to fascism, conspiracy theories, and far right wing politics in huge numbers.
Do you think they take their ball and go home if they're banned off BF? They're more likely to head to an uncensored platform such as 4chan, and be influenced by actual Nazis. I get that there are some people who simply can't be reasoned with, with all due respect I would argue that you are one such example yourself (Russia "rigged" the 2016 election?) but if you want to be part of the solution, burying your heads in the sand and pretending bad views don't exist solves nothing.

How many actual Nazi supporters or sympathisers are amongst those banned? I've been threadbanned countless times, and not one of those bans was due to anything race related.
There's no censorship going on here.
Many of those posters you are probably referring to are posting away happily over in the US politics thread on the Conspiracy Board.
You'll find there's a level for everybody on Bigfooty :thumbsu:
You think shipping them over to hang out with flat-earthers is a solution?
Yeah but does TAFE count as a college education - a four week block like what an apprentice electrician would do?

Asking for a friend
Elitism. I've been to uni (Commerce degree), I also studied one day per week for 4 years at TAFE and then completed my 3 "A Grade" exams (which have a sub 50% pass rate) in the city to get my sparky license.

Don't get me wrong, there are dumb sparkies out there for sure. But it is the most regulated trade in Australia, particularly in Victoria.
 
Did anyone else find the terminology used by Sidney Powell interesting when interviewed about that dominion voting machine? Her "firstly, I never say anything without having proof first" is very curious behavior from someone with a reputation like hers (and stands to have it trashed). If what she is saying is true and systematic fraud is proven as a result I can barely conceive the ramifications.
 
Do you think they take their ball and go home if they're banned off BF? They're more likely to head to an uncensored platform such as 4chan, and be influenced by actual Nazis. I get that there are some people who simply can't be reasoned with, with all due respect I would argue that you are one such example yourself (Russia "rigged" the 2016 election?) but if you want to be part of the solution, burying your heads in the sand and pretending bad views don't exist solves nothing.

There was plenty of evidence of Russian interference, and indictments accordingly.

Mal isn't anything like those he speaks of.

How many actual Nazi supporters or sympathisers are amongst those banned? I've been threadbanned countless times, and not one of those bans was due to anything race related.

It doesn't have to be race related to earn you a banning. You were probably just trolling as is your penchant.

You think shipping them over to hang out with flat-earthers is a solution?

You think leaving them here to scream TDS and push conspiracies in a never ending loop is furthering discussion.

History will record these people as fanatical and wrong.
 
Do you think they take their ball and go home if they're banned off BF? They're more likely to head to an uncensored platform such as 4chan, and be influenced by actual Nazis.

And if we didnt boot them off here, it would rapidly become a cesspit like r/the Donald did, or the /Pol boards on 4 Chan did or like every other thread on every other site ever does.

There is no reasoning with people who believe the FBI and CIA are 'making up' the Russian interference in the 2016 election, that the Democrats are part of a Satanic paedo cannibal sex ring, George Soros (and the Jews) did it, or any of the other insanity pushed by far right wing grifters and Russian troll farms.

How many actual Nazi supporters or sympathisers are amongst those banned?

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Plenty.
 

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Yep, it’s hilarious when we are told that the left is based on fear, old mate yebiga is the worst offender.

Trump drummed up fear of illegal immigrants, low income housing in the suburbs, ANTEEEFA, radical left, Muslims etc.

I wonder if all those combined have killed 250 people in last 9 months, let alone 250,000.
Has that wall been built yet?

I wonder if Mexico have an Afterpay account.
 
Did anyone else find the terminology used by Sidney Powell interesting when interviewed about that dominion voting machine? Her "firstly, I never say anything without having proof first" is very curious behavior from someone with a reputation like hers (and stands to have it trashed). If what she is saying is true and systematic fraud is proven as a result I can barely conceive the ramifications.

Yeah, evidence is coming in as if it was from a fire hose.

She goes on to talk about the millions ... err thousands of phone calls they have received.

Evidence has to be sorted into true and false, provable and not provable. Affidavits from Trump fans isn't going to cut it.

You're latching on to minion rhetoric like it means something. They would never say these things in court. What does that tell you?
 
Did anyone else find the terminology used by Sidney Powell interesting when interviewed about that dominion voting machine? Her "firstly, I never say anything without having proof first" is very curious behavior from someone with a reputation like hers (and stands to have it trashed). If what she is saying is true and systematic fraud is proven as a result I can barely conceive the ramifications.
Haha how sad and pathetic that you are wasting your time worrying about something so fanciful. For someone to invest so much time and concern into it I can only imagine how you'll cope (you won't) when it all comes to nothing. An adjusted person would probably realise by now that their perception of events and general world view is not a realistic one but I guess when you get your news from your safe sources (to paint your pathetic narrative) on twitter then you'll only ever be entrenched deep within your imaginary world. I'm pretty sure that even when the walls come crashing down and your hopes of an overturn don't eventuate you'll retreat to your safe sources as a coping mechanism to reassure you that you were right all along.

I honestly just think it's sad that you could be so wrong, yet so adamant and emotionally invested in something and someone so reprehensible.
 
Going over old ground I know, I but honestly, I cannot fathom how anyone in good conscience can continue to “support” this individual. An unprecedented pandemic is continuing to worsen, tearing through his country. And what is on this individuals Monday schedule? Delusional ranting and the continuing subversion of a democratic election, lunch with the “2IC” and yet another round of golf. Meanwhile, another 200k cases, 1k more deaths and the doctors, nurses and medical staff being pushed further to the brink.
Just a vile human being on every level.



And no mate, history will hopefully remember the untold and needless suffering, misery and pain caused by this pandemic under “your watch”.

One of the defining characteristics of a poor Leader is taking credit for the excellent work/achievements of others, especially when they had no direct input themselves.
Trump excels at this in direct proportion to how bad a Leader he has been.

By contrast, he takes no responsibility at all for the C-19 cases and deaths "on his watch".
Your summary is worth repeating. Trump is "Just a vile human being on every level."
 
Haha how sad and pathetic that you are wasting your time worrying about something so fanciful. For someone to invest so much time and concern into it I can only imagine how you'll cope (you won't) when it all comes to nothing. An adjusted person would probably realise by now that their perception of events and general world view is not a realistic one but I guess when you get your news from your safe sources (to paint your pathetic narrative) on twitter then you'll only ever be entrenched deep within your imaginary world. I'm pretty sure that even when the walls come crashing down and your hopes of an overturn don't eventuate you'll retreat to your safe sources as a coping mechanism to reassure you that you were right all along.

I honestly just think it's sad that you could be so wrong, yet so adamant and emotionally invested in something and someone so reprehensible.
What I posted was not opinion. I reiterated a direct quote from Sidney Powell who is one of the top lawyers in the US and making quite a personal statement to the effect of putting her reputation on the line that "she has proof" that the machine used to count the ballots was flipping votes to Biden.
 
It's a little hard to argue against bigoted hate speech, that is usually false, and even when proven false, that proof doesn't dissuade the person posting it.

The reality is, Trump supporters on here are mostly either trolls, or members of the Far-Right with views that would make Frasier Anning blush, or both.

Im down with a discussion of Trumps actual policies. But you dont get that from Trumpists. You get bizarre conspiracy theories about ANTIFA, Paedos, Pizzas and Panda eyes, erroneous claims of mass Voter fraud, doctored videos, regurgitated posts from far right wing grifters or Neo Nazi sites, pictures of Pepe the Frog, denialism about climate change, denial of the threat of Far Right wing terrorists and even posts asserting that Nazis are a far left wing political ideology.

How can you rationally discuss a false reality with people? We're so fractured that you blokes on the Right literally live in a different reality to the rest of us. How can we ever find any middle ground there?

It's unfortunate because the rise of the Right wing (and Far right) among predominantly white, non college educated, male, working and middle class voters should be examined. That is a demographic that has been left behind by globalism, and they're turning to fascism, conspiracy theories, and far right wing politics in huge numbers.
Great post. So well said mate.
 
What I posted was not opinion. I reiterated a direct quote from Sidney Powell who is one of the top lawyers in the US and making quite a personal statement to the effect of putting her reputation on the line that "she has proof" that the machine used to count the ballots was flipping votes to Biden.

So if she has proof, where is it? Or do we have to wait two weeks?
 
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